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Compute marathon training paces
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add hmgp paces #1

Open hy45100 opened 12 years ago

hy45100 commented 12 years ago

request to add in hmgp data

hiwaylon commented 12 years ago

Thanks for your feedback!

The original spreadsheet did not compute a HMGP based on the given marathon time.

How would you like to see the HMGP represented? It could be a function of the computed MGP, although that would probably be a slower time than one was capable of. Are you looking for a training value, i.e. "10 min at HMGP"? If there is some accepted formula for computing this value, let me know, and I can implement it. John may have some ideas here too.

Another option is to use the 20k pace as a guide but that may not be an accurate pace for what you are seeking. Let's talk on Thursday.

hy45100 commented 12 years ago

i was thinking maybe a radio button to select mgp or hmgp. i was thinking the same logic for mgp, but just hmgp... like if you want to race a half you'd select hmgp and see what pace either each mile should be or each 5k.

hiwaylon commented 12 years ago

That's a good idea. My question, for John, would be do the formula's applied to the marathon goal time apply to a half goal time? I'll ask him.

hy45100 commented 12 years ago

i would say no. i want to run a 1:36 for a half and i ran berlin at 3:30, but that was 1:40 half.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Waylon Calabrese < reply@reply.github.com

wrote:

That's a good idea. My question, for John, would be do the formula's applied to the marathon goal time apply to a half goal time? I'll ask him.

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/hiwaylon/goal_paces/issues/1#issuecomment-2950341

hiwaylon commented 12 years ago

Right.

To clarify, the formulas that get applied to the pace that compute the different interval paces.

Example To compute the "special 1k" pace, the following formula is used:

# This formula was taken directly from the magic spreadsheet...
special_1k = 0.922 * goal_marathon_kilometer_pace_seconds

The question becomes: Is 0.922 the correct scaling factor when multiplying by goal_half_marathon_kilometer_pace_seconds?

My gut instinct is no, simply because to run faster, you train faster and therefore this ratio would be slightly smaller, e.g. train at 94% of goal pace (instead of 92.2%).

hiwaylon commented 12 years ago

Oh wait. I just reread your comment. Do you mean paces during the races or paces at which to train?

hy45100 commented 12 years ago

Maybe I'm confused... Wouldnt it be for both? You'd set a goal for the race so you'd train at that pace.

Helen

On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Waylon Calabresereply@reply.github.com wrote:

Oh wait. I just reread your comment. Do you mean paces during the races or paces at which to train?

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/hiwaylon/goal_paces/issues/1#issuecomment-2951798