"created_at" & "modified_at" properties - for a yaml/UI input_number

[ildar170975]

The problem

Create an input_number in yaml:

input_number:
  test_created:
    min: 10
    max: 100
    mode: box
    icon: mdi:car

Reload "input_number" (Dev tools -> yaml). The created entity does have a created_at property set (which is correct):

Edit a max attribute in yaml:

input_number:
  test_created:
    ...
    max: 1000
    ...

Reload "input_number" (Dev tools -> yaml). The modified_at value is NOT changed (which is NOT correct).

Open more-info and edit an area or add a label, or change entity_id:

The modified_at value is changed (which is correct).

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Next, create an input_number in UI:

The created entity does have a created_at property set (which is correct):

Open more-info and edit an area or add a label, or change entity_id:

The modified_at value is changed (which is correct).

Open more-info and edit a step property:

The modified_at value is NOT changed (which is NOT correct).

What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue?

2024.8

What was the last working version of Home Assistant Core?

No response

What type of installation are you running?

Home Assistant Container

Integration causing the issue

input_number

Link to integration documentation on our website

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/input_number/

Diagnostics information

No response

Example YAML snippet

No response

Anything in the logs that might be useful for us?

No response

Additional information

No response

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[gfn256]

Both your other post & this one are probably because yaml code has to be reloaded. Try reloading and then check the modified at attribute.

[ildar170975]

yaml code has to be reloaded

Ofc the yaml was reloaded as an obvious step. It was not only reloaded when I changed UI settings.

Just in case - added about yaml reload in to the 1st post.

[mib1185]

~I think~ yaml defined helpers will never update the "modified at" value, since there configuration is not tracked between the reloads and reboots, so HA can not determine if it is the same as before

EDIT: Let me be a bit more clearly in this case

[ildar170975]

think yaml defined helpers will never update the "modified at" value

If we assume that this is true - we should not assume that this is CORRECT. In this case the whole shiny idea of adding "modify" is a useless toy. Just say officially in Docs that "modify" is only updated for UI-controlled entities.