Problems with Fronius integration in the energy panel

[el-rocho]

The problem

After working perfectly until the beginning of January 2023, the fronius integration (energy) does not show the statistics data needed to configure the energy panel in Home Assistant (no source appears in the dropdown)

What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue?

2023.1.6

What was the last working version of Home Assistant Core?

2022.12.x

What type of installation are you running?

Home Assistant OS

Integration causing the issue

Fronius

Link to integration documentation on our website

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Diagnostics information

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Example YAML snippet

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Anything in the logs that might be useful for us?

No response

Additional information

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[farmio]

Hi 👋!

Unfortunately I can't reproduce this.

I have just tested to add the Fronius integration on a test installation with clean database on 2023.2 beta (there were no related changes from 2023.1 afair) and it worked perfectly fine. All sensor entities were shown in the dropdown.

Do you happen to have some customize with globs in your configuration, or anything like that?

[el-rocho]

Thanks for your time

It's very strange, all the entities work perfectly but they don't appear in the dropdown menu of the power panel

Everything was working correctly in 2022.12 but in January I did a clean installation (even with the empty database) to start using z-wave devices, in the new installation the power panel does not detect the "Fronius" integration entities. Now I use the "Tesla style solar power card" (HACS) interface without problems

------- Original Message ------- El domingo, 29 de enero de 2023 a las 10:11, Matthias Alphart @.***> escribió:

Hi 👋!

Unfortunately I can't reproduce this.

I have just tested to add the Fronius integration on a test installation with clean database on 2023.2 beta (there were no related changes from 2023.1 afair) and it worked perfectly fine. All sensor entities were shown in the dropdown.

Do you happen to have some customize with globs in your configuration, or anything like that?

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[farmio]

Can you just type the entity ids in the field instead of using the drop-down? I have no idea why it doesn't show in your installation. On my test instance it didn't even need to wait for long term statistics, it worked right away. Can you show your entities states and attributes from Dev-Tools - States from an applicable entity?

[el-rocho]

Hello again

Manually typing entity IDs into the field doesn't work, the "save" button remains disabled

The states and attributes of the entities appear without problems in the dev-tools section... I can perfectly use those entities in different cards Thanks again

------- Original Message ------- El domingo, 29 de enero de 2023 a las 12:26, Matthias Alphart @.***> escribió:

Can you just type the entity ids in the field instead of using the drop-down? I have no idea why it doesn't show in your installation. On my test instance it didn't even need to wait for long term statistics, it worked right away. Can you show your entities states and attributes from Dev-Tools - States from an applicable entity?

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[farmio]

Alright. What are the states and attributes? Can you past a screenshot of an example, maybe an inverters total energy?

[el-rocho]

[imagen.png]I attach an image of the total energy entity of the inverter: sensor.solarnet_energy_total

[imagen.png]

------- Original Message ------- El domingo, 29 de enero de 2023 a las 14:03, Matthias Alphart @.***> escribió:

Alright. What are the states and attributes? Can you past a screenshot of an example, maybe an inverters total energy?

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[farmio]

Well, this didn't work 🫥

[el-rocho]

I'll keep looking, thank you very much for your time👍👍

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-------- Mensaje original -------- El 29 ene 2023 17:48, Matthias Alphart escribió:

Well, this didn't work 🫥

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[farmio]

What I meant was that your image upload didn't work. There is no picture.

[el-rocho]

Sorry, I'm attaching the images again 🤦

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[rfernalu]

My integration also worked perfectly until January 01.2023 but a few days ago the SolarNet device showed the values ​​in gray and did not report information on solar production

[farmio]

Hi 👋! Please write in English here. Also attach logs or other relevant information.

[el-rocho]

En mi caso la integración no funciona en el panel de energía, pero utilizo la interfaz "Tesla style solar power card" (HACS) y ahí todo funciona correctamente

------- Original Message ------- El martes, 14 de febrero de 2023 a las 12:00, rfernalu @.***> escribió:

Mi integración también funcionaba perfectamente hasta enero 01.2023 pero hace unos dias el dispositivo SolarNet aparecen los valores en gris y no reporta información de la producción solar. image solarnet

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[rfernalu]

Hi 👋! Please write in English here. Also attach logs or other relevant information.

Sorry, my google web translator... now it's ok. Which logs?? Any information relevant you need just ask and i'll post it. Regards

[farmio]

Anything that could be related. Also, which device do you use, does it have fixed IP, did you change something (update, network, etc.).

[hammelkopp]

Hi, same problem on my site. Today my fronius was installed, discovery worked fine but i can only see 3 objects in the dropdown fields in the energy dashboar settings. I run haos 2023.2.3. Regards

[farmio]

@hammelkopp please add more information. What entities do you see? Which entities would you expect? What are the states of the expected entities? Is there anything in the logs? What devices (inverter, meter, etc)? Did it even produce yet?

[Alby247]

Same problem for me on my work system (my Fronius at home works fine in HA). System is two older IG-Plus inverters with a datamanager card, and two newer Symo inverters, plus a Fronius smartmeter. All show up in HA. The integration has been installed and running for a few weeks now. I can display the sensor info in a glance card no problems.

Solarnet device shows all the relevant sensors, but when trying to configure the Energy dashboard sensors such as Power Grid, Power load, Power photovoltaics, don't appear in the dropdowns. None of the available sensors in the dropdown appear to provide the correct info.

Home Assistant 2023.2.5 Supervisor 2023.01.1 Operating System 9.5 Frontend 20230202.0 - latest

When I installed the integration HA automatically set up the Energy dashboard on my home system, but it's blank on my work system.

[Alby247]

home-assistant_fronius_2023-02-24T03-16-12.299Z.log

Not sure if this helps, it doesn't mean much to me. I had debug mode turned on for the Fronius integration for about half an hour.

[farmio]

@timh767 does the IG have a Smartmeter connected to it? You seem to confuse power with energy. Energy panel only accepts energy entities. Have a look at https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/faq/#energy-vs-power and https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/fronius/#energy-dashboard

[Alby247]

Thanks @farmio - yes there is a Smartmeter in the system and yes I had power and energy confused.

Set the sensors to Energy Total for each inverter (production), Smart meter 50kA-3 Energy real consumed (consumption), and Smart meter 50kA-3 Energy real produced (return to grid). The daily numbers are fairly close to the Fronius Solarweb site.

[Leticron]

I have a similar issue: the entities from my fronius integration (SolarNet device) went to not available 5 days ago. For me a reload of the integration solved the issue but I have no idea what caused that behaviour. No changes have been made since that happened.

[Thronborg]

Energy dashboard not working

The data are received correctly from my Fronius to HA.

But Energy dashboard sensors Power Grid Power load Power photovoltaics, don't appear in the Energy dashboard. ONLY 5 sensors can be seen?

And i cant paste the sensor and press "Save"

[farmio]

@Thronborg power👏is👏not👏energy👏

Have a look at the documentation of the energy dashboard https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/ and the Fronius integration https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/fronius/#energy-dashboard

[Thronborg]

@Thronborg power👏is👏not👏energy👏

Have a look at the documentation of the energy dashboard https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/ and the Fronius integration https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/fronius/#energy-dashboard

Thanks farmio. Yes i know but before i could choose between a lot of entities now only 5. I am quite sure i before could enter "Power photovoltaics" to the chart if i am not totaly wrong. I would like to se the energy consumed in kWh in the same positive bar together with the "Smart Meter 63A Energy real consumed"

If you look at the picture i cant se my energy consumed at 11:00. And i am sure i have. If i am not wrong i could earier se both "Power photovoltaics" and energy consumed in the same chart, but i can be wrong.

Thanks again for your input farmio.

Thronborg

[farmio]

It seems you did export exactly the same amount of energy as you produced. I guess you have configured the solar production wrongly.

[Thronborg]

You are right. But i only have 5 inputs to choose from. I will wait and se if there will be an update.

Thanks for your response. Thronborg

[MelleD]

I'm currently trying to set up my Fronius in Home Assistant. I have a SmartMeter, Inverter and a Symo 8.2.3. Setting up the devices worked smoothly.

However, I also have problems setting up the Energy Dashboard. If I understood it correctly, the values ​​of the SolarNet should be used. However, these are not displayed for me. I can only select the sensor values ​​from my Symo and SmartMeter.

How can one solve it?

My devices:

Solar Net Load and Grid. This are the values what i need, correct?

But here just have the Symo and Smart Meter values for consumption:

I understand I need: sensor.solarnet_power_grid & sensor.solarnet_power_load, correct?

Additionally, I found confusing whether I still need to convert these values: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/fronius/#consumption-path-meter

Is that necessary?

[farmio]

@MelleD i don't know where you get the info that you can or should use power entities for the enetgy dashboard.

Imho the documentation states exactly which entity you should configure at which position. It depends on your meter location.

[nielstron]

@farmio You should prepare a standard answer for this question, I think it pops up roughly twice a week by now :)

[MelleD]

@farmio thanks for the reply. My location is 0. However, the values ​​in the dashboard were not correct and deviated. For this reason I thought the values ​​are wrong. The solar net looked plausible. Let me try again and i make a screenshot

@nielstron Maybe the documentation isn't as good as I thought :). E.g. complete examples and information on the sensor values ​​would be useful :)

[farmio]

@nielstron I thought the documentation was the standard answer 🤣

@MelleD If something isn't clear or understandable, please feel free to correct it. It's often hard to write this from a new users perspective - and in a way that is also compliant with HA documentation standards.

Feed in path meters don't need any helpers (Riemann) to be used in energy dashboard.

[MelleD]

@farmio yes i could do that, when it works. I think the problem is in front of the PC ;)

Here my configuration and solar web view. Maybe i understand the Dashboard wrong

[farmio]

@MelleD thsts perfectly fine. One picture shows instantaneous power, the other daily energy. They are not comparable.

[MelleD]

@farmio Ah so there is just a daily view. Is there also a similar view of the current status or do I have to build it by myself?

Ok then i understand the dashboard wrong. I was always confused why the grid was simulated to the house, although currently everything came from the PV :)

[robinbon]

Hi

Very new at this. I am trying to add my fronius solar inverter to HA integration. at the very start it says add host name.

Where is this information ?

I have fronius primo 5 & data manager

Currently i access my data via solar web and get graphical instant generation and feed/draw from grid.

thanks

[farmio]

@robinbon It's the Hostname or local ip address, just like the description says. You won't find this information in SolarWeb, but in your LAN router or maybe on the devices display somewhere.

[robinbon]

ok, thanks, I was looking at my access point which it will be on, i was working my way down (long list) of devices.

the most obvious device due to length of time active starts with ESP-425xxx

but not that

[robinbon]

ok, trail and error and I found it, thanks

[robinbon]

ok, so I installed the fronius into HA. Then I selected the data sources in energy but I selected the wrong sources (there are lots).

How do I edit the sources ? As I am getting wrong data being fed graphs etc. I did try deleting fronius and reinstalling but the wrong sources are still being used.

Thanks

[Thronborg]

You cant edit. Delete it and add a new.

[robinbon]

i did that and the data sources are same as before.

[farmio]

Remove the data sources from "Settings -> Dashboards-> Energy".

Please head to the community forums or Discord for support questions. HAs GitHub issue tracker should only be used for bug reports.

[robinbon]

thanks, sorry, did not know

[puch1951]

I have still the same problem: Problems with Fronius integration in the energy panel I can only select a few entities in the energy panel The one I should have for "solar production" is "sensor.solarnet_pv_leistung" I read all the comments but which is the actual status of the issue? thx

[farmio]

@puch1951 sensor.solarnet_pv_leistung is not the one you should have. "Leistung" in english is "power". You need "energy" - in German "Energie" or "Wirkenergie". Start over at https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/86448#issuecomment-1443384470 or https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/86448#issuecomment-1459857002 or https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/86448#issuecomment-1465173121

[puch1951]

hello farmio, thx for your fast reply. with your reply I understood the problem. In the energy dashboard only entities with kWh are selectable. because energy per day (week, and so on) are displayed. In the fronius app the actual power values are displayed, so that differs of course from your values in the dashboard. (Tell me if I'm wrong). Nice would be if you could display these actual power values in the dashbord additionally (also in a bubble chart). The neccessary entities are available. Thanks again

[farmio]

Yes, you are correct.

To the second part of your post: I think there are custom cards that do this. Otherwise feature requests should be filed in the community forums. This is not (and can't be) part of the Fronius integration, but is a core/energy thing. https://community.home-assistant.io/c/feature-requests/13

[rorso]

I hope I may add my "problem" here too. :-) First of all, I am really glad. This addon is just great. But a few things remain that might get improved. First, the inverter communicates per WLAN and the connection is not that great. So it may miss a command any now and then. As it seems, I had a small dropout in the evening when solar production was low but still good. So I miss points both in the history and in the energy graph. The missing amount was added in the morning as an energy peak that never happened.

The Fronius solarweb page however happened to get it right, although the tail was missing here too in the evening. The data were distributed with the correct times, when the device awoke.

Indeed the power reading is missing a share, but that one is not used for calculating the energy I guess, as the configured sensor is

But how then is solarweb able to fit the values and is there a possibility to do the same?