Cannot boot HAOS on Raspberry Pi 3B+

[dangerweenie]

Describe the issue you are experiencing

I have a Raspberry Pi 3B and a 3B+

Using both Raspberry Pi Imager and Balena Etcher:

The 3B can boot HAOS, Octoprint, Pi OS

The 3B+ can boot Pi OS, Octoprint, but will not boot HAOS

Powering up the 3B+, the red light remains solid, green light flashes a few times and stays off. No output to HDMI - simply a blank screen.

Copying over some of the firmware files (.elf, fixup, .dtb) from the Octoprint MicroSD card, I was able to get the rainbow screensaver and the green light remained blinking on and off at regular intervals, but nothing else.

I'm not a pro user but I suspect this has something to do with firmware for the 3B+

What operating system image do you use?

rpi3-64 (Raspberry Pi 3 64-bit OS)

What version of Home Assistant Operating System is installed?

12.1

Did you upgrade the Operating System.

Yes

Steps to reproduce the issue

1.Flash HAOS to MicroSD card 2.Insert card into RPi 3B+ slor 3.Attach power ...

Anything in the Supervisor logs that might be useful for us?

no logs (no boot)

Anything in the Host logs that might be useful for us?

no logs (no boot)

System information

Raspberry Pi 3B+, Balena Etcher, Raspberry Pi Imager

Additional information

No response

[sairon]

Unlike newer models, Raspberry Pi 3B/3B+ doesn't use EEPROM for any of the boot stages, everything is on the SD card, so we can probably rule out anything "on the device" being out of date. The firmware responsible for booting (bootcode.bin and other files in the boot partition) is up to date in 12.1 too.

Since you're so far the only one reporting the issue and I am not able to reproduce it on my setup here, I suggest to focus on your setup. Are there any differences when testing with the 3B and 3B+ - e.g. a different power supply? Have you a different one to test with? You can also try appeding bootdelay=1 to the config.txt in the boot partition, it was sometimes reported to fix spurious issues with boot for some other people.

[wsrainc]

Just to add another data point, I am also a Pi3+ user that had a failed upgrade from 12.1. System was in some sort of reboot loop, with the NIC responding to ping for about 30 seconds, then not responding for another minute or so. That cycle just repeated until I restored to the previous backup from a fresh SD install. I did not put a display on it or troubleshoot further, but I wanted to at least confirm I saw a similar problem. If it recurs when I update again, I'll try and get more details. Appreciate all the awesome work the team does!

[sairon]

@wsrainc What you describe is different from the OP's problem - in that case even 12.1 fails to boot. If the issue appears after upgrade from 12.1, then it can be related to #3362 (especially if you have any USB peripherals connected).

[dangerweenie]

Unlike newer models, Raspberry Pi 3B/3B+ doesn't use EEPROM for any of the boot stages, everything is on the SD card, so we can probably rule out anything "on the device" being out of date. The firmware responsible for booting (bootcode.bin and other files in the boot partition) is up to date in 12.1 too.

Since you're so far the only one reporting the issue and I am not able to reproduce it on my setup here, I suggest to focus on your setup. Are there any differences when testing with the 3B and 3B+ - e.g. a different power supply? Have you a different one to test with? You can also try appeding bootdelay=1 to the config.txt in the boot partition, it was sometimes reported to fix spurious issues with boot for some other people.

Hi there -

Thanks for the reply!

Yup, I know that the 3B+ doens't store on EEPROM (all on SD card) - which explains why OctoPrint can boot - it seems like the FW files in the SDcard boot partition between the HAOS and OctoPrint images are significant;y different. The fact that HAOS is booting on the 3B and not the 3B+ also reinforces this. This is furthermore supported by being able to boot other Operating Systems - it appears that something in the HAOS image that I was using just isn't playing nicely with the Rpi.

Yup, there are 0 changing variables between the installs and testing - same ethernet cable, same power supply, same SD card.

I'll try imaging the SD card again later today with 12.1 and seeing what happens. Certainly open to any advice! Thank you again.

[sairon]

Can you try also the latest 12.3? It should be already available in rpi-imager and offered by that by default, or you can download it from releases here. This release has updated kernel and firmware, so it can make some difference.

[dangerweenie]

Can you try also the latest 12.3? It should be already available in rpi-imager and offered by that by default, or you can download it from releases here. This release has updated kernel and firmware, so it can make some difference.

I'll give it a shot and follow up soon, thanks!

[CreatureFear]

Hi, I'm a linux noob here, but I have a RPI 3B+ and yesterday tried to update my HA setup to version 12.3 and since then I'm litteraly in the dark (zigbee + WIFI lighting is out of service now), and the ppl I live with start to loose faith in technology 😅

After the upgrade I had the following message : homeasssistant a start job is running for /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-overlay then it was going into emergency console after a few dependencies failures.

I've just tried to install 12.3 on a fresh SD card with RPI Imager and it still goes into emergency console . Boot up sequence now fails at the line : A start job is running for Wait Until Kernel Time Synchronized

Edit : I've just done a fresh install with the 12.2 release and it works normally. I've just got to perform a config restore now...

At first I thought I had a failing SD card that needed replacement, but this is def an OS version issue.

[Baruxa]

I have the same situation, I would like some solution.

[rhatguy]

Add another user with the same issue as the screenshot above. I clicked upgrade during work today and it never fully rebooted. It pings periodically, but I'm not able to get to the gui. I did get the observer page up, but didn't notice anything useful. I will try to troubleshoot further after work. I only used this PI to run ZwaveJS and don't really have a good config backup (I know...I know). I hope I'm able to get it up enough to get a config backup pulled down or some way to download the OS as I don't relish having to re-establish my Zwave network if I have to re-install :(

[rhatguy]

This is definitely a problem with HAOS 12.3. I unplugged by Zwave stick (a Zooz ZST-10) and the OS booted. I was then able to downgrade the OS to 12.2. I plugged the stick back in and all is working. Just to be sure I upgraded the OS again to 12.3 and around 30 seconds after boot it started back up with the same errors as pasted above. I followed the same process of pulling the stick, downgrading the OS, re-inserting the stick and booting back up and everything is fine again.

Perhaps #3301 is an issue?

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[Baruxa]

Fine. I'll try to install the latest version and report back

[kenimou]

I am also having issuer with my pi3B/B+. For me my green light is up but nothing outputs to HDMI (no signal). Have tweaked some settings to force hdmi but no luck either. Connected to ethernet but it never joined the network according to my router. I tried HAOS 13.1 and 12.4 and nether works.