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Prevents plug-ins from loading automatically in Safari
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Apple TV 3 support #35

Closed karasline closed 11 years ago

karasline commented 11 years ago

Does clicktoflash or clicktoplugin support the apple tv 3g. I've attempted to try it from 1.6 GHz mac mini (10.6.8) and 1.0 GHz eMac PPC (10.5.8) and while I can get the HTML5 viewer to appear, I can't get the Apple TV interface to work.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

It works insofar as the video should start playing on your TV, provided that you've entered a valid hostname/password combination in CTP's preferences. That much is certain, so if nothing happens on your TV, you probably haven't configured things correctly. The hostname is anything such that http://hostname/ points to your Apple TV, so it can be the IP address.

What I do not know is whether the video plays to the end or stops after a minute or so. I have had conflicting reports about this. In any case this issue is out of my control, but I wouldn't mind knowing how that goes, if you can get it to work initially.

karasline commented 11 years ago

Thanks for the response.

Airplay between the eMac and Apple TV are working okay, at least from the Apple TV I can play iTunes music that is on my eMac.  The Apple TV configuration is the default (name Apple TV, no password).  The clicktoplugin configuration is also (mostly) set to defaults with the name of the Airplay device being apple-tv.local.  About the only changes I made to the defaults were the Media Player (set it to Airplay) and the shortcut menu, i.e. checked "Send via Airplay".

One other thing is that the popup doesn't happen when "hovering" in the left hand corner of the media placeholder.  Also when control-clicking mouse (single button mouse) only the "Download Video" and "Clicktoplugin Preferences" appear.

From: Marc Hoyois notifications@github.com To: hoyois/clicktoplugin clicktoplugin@noreply.github.com Cc: karasline karasline@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [clicktoplugin] Apple TV 3 support (#35)

It works insofar as the video should start playing on your TV, provided that you've entered a valid hostname/password combination in CTP's preferences. That much is certain, so if nothing happens on your TV, you probably haven't configured things correctly. The hostname is anything such that http://hostname/ points to your Apple TV, so it can be the IP address. What I do not know is whether the video plays to the end or stops after a minute or so. I have had conflicting reports about this. In any case this issue is out of my control, but I wouldn't mind knowing how that goes, if you can get it to work initially. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

Can you attach a screenshot of the media placeholder you're talking about?

karasline commented 11 years ago

The picture 4 is the media placeholder when hovering in the top left corner.  The picture 3 is what occurs when pushing the control key and the mouse button.

I made an error in my previous email.  When I stated that "Airplay between the eMac and Apple TV are working okay", I should have said "Home Sharing" instead of  "Airplay"

From: Marc Hoyois notifications@github.com To: hoyois/clicktoplugin clicktoplugin@noreply.github.com Cc: karasline karasline@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [clicktoplugin] Apple TV 3 support (#35)

Can you attach a screenshot of the media placeholder you're talking about? — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

I don't see any pictures. I guess you have to upload them directly on GitHub, not via email.

karasline commented 11 years ago

picture 4 picture 3

Picture 4 is when hovering in the upper left hand corner. Picture 3 is control-mouse click. Neither behavior seems correct, i.e. Picture 3 should show shortcuts (if available) and picture 4 should show a list of media sources.

BTW Airplay does work when I use an iPod Touch 4 to send video to the Apple TV.

karasline commented 11 years ago

Sorry I didn't mean to close the issue.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

There's nothing abnormal in these pictures. There's simply no media source available for this Flash object. Try a video on youtube.com; the "Send via AirPlay" option should appear then.

hawbaker commented 11 years ago

Try using IP if haven't already. I had problem too until I changed hostname to IP and now it works. Seems Apple TV 3 wasn't responding to name.local lookup.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

@hawbaker Thanks for the confirmation! Maybe the more recent Apple TV software does not create a .local address anymore, since accessing the device via http is not an officially supported feature.

karasline commented 11 years ago

I was able to get it to finally get it working using apple-tv.local. 

The problems I was encountering were two-fold.  One, clicktoplugin can't necessarily deal with all YouTube Videos.  If the media placeholder doesn't indicate Airplay, then it won't play on the Apple TV.  Some of the YouTube videos are actually HTML5, even though the media placeholder indicates "Flash".  Also non youtube sites, pbs.org and hulu.com don't seem to be able to picked up with clicktoplugin, even though the media placeholder indicates Flash.  The second issue most likely had to do with the Wireless network at my house.

From: Marc Hoyois notifications@github.com To: hoyois/clicktoplugin clicktoplugin@noreply.github.com Cc: karasline karasline@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [clicktoplugin] Apple TV 3 support (#35)

@hawbaker Thanks for the confirmation! Maybe the more recent Apple TV software does not create a .local address anymore, since accessing the device via http is not an officially supported feature. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

Good!

If the media placeholder doesn't indicate Airplay, then it won't play on the Apple TV. Some of the YouTube videos are actually HTML5, even though the media placeholder indicates "Flash".

Hmm, I don't understand. CTP does not block HTML5 videos and so there would not be any placeholder for those. So if there's a placeholder at all, that means it's a Flash object. Moreover, almost all YouTube videos have alternative video sources that CTP can use, so the placeholder should almost never say "Flash" on YouTube. What's an example of a YouTube video where the placeholder reads "Flash"?

Also non youtube sites, pbs.org and hulu.com don't seem to be able to picked up with clicktoplugin, even though the media placeholder indicates Flash.

If the media placeholder indicates "Flash", it actually means that there's no video source available. In particular, airplay is not possible.

karasline commented 11 years ago

I went back to YouTube and searched on Dave Brubeck.  When I wrote my last email, the versions of Take Five from the sixties (B/W) were coming up as I described.  However the color version from 1974 came up with the Airplay Placeholder.  This was on a 2006 Mac Mini running 10.6.8.  However, today when I tried it from my eMac running 10.5.8, the Airplay Placeholder was coming up on all the YouTube videos I attempted including the Take Five versions from the sixties.  I'll try again on the Mac Mini and report back.

From: Marc Hoyois notifications@github.com To: hoyois/clicktoplugin clicktoplugin@noreply.github.com Cc: karasline karasline@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [clicktoplugin] Apple TV 3 support (#35)

Good! If the media placeholder doesn't indicate Airplay, then it won't play on the Apple TV. Some of the YouTube videos are actually HTML5, even though the media placeholder indicates "Flash". Hmm, I don't understand. CTP does not block HTML5 videos and so there would not be any placeholder for those. So if there's a placeholder at all, that means it's a Flash object. Moreover, almost all YouTube videos have alternative video sources that CTP can use, so the placeholder should almost never say "Flash" on YouTube. What's an example of a YouTube video where the placeholder reads "Flash"? Also non youtube sites, pbs.org and hulu.com don't seem to be able to picked up with clicktoplugin, even though the media placeholder indicates Flash. If the media placeholder indicates "Flash", it actually means that there's no video source available. In particular, airplay is not possible. — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

karasline commented 11 years ago

The youtube on the Mac Mini running 10.6.8 is part of the HTML5 trial, which is why Clicktoplugin probably wasn't working as I expected. I'm guessing this closes this issue.

hoyois commented 11 years ago

Thanks for following this up. Indeed, ClickToPlugin does not interfere with YouTube's HTML5 trial.