ledger-cli support

[djp]

ledger is an amazingly good command-line accounting program. It is comprehensive, has an active community and maintains all transaction data in simple text-files. The core developers are also orgmode fans and developers, and have been working with ledger data in orgmode for quite some time. I'm jealous, and I think it would be great if VimOrganizer could take advantage of previous work by the ledger team.

http://ledger-cli.org/ http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Emacs-org-mode

[hsitz]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM, djp reply@reply.github.com wrote:

ledger is an amazingly good command-line accounting program. It is comprehensive, has an active community and maintains all transaction data in simple text-files. The core developers are also orgmode fans and developers, and have been working with ledger data in orgmode for quite some time. I'm jealous, and I think it would be great if VimOrganizer could take advantage of previous work by the ledger team.

 http://ledger-cli.org/ http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Emacs-org-mode

I think this should already work in VimOrganizer. All of the Babel stuff should work (nearly?) problem free, since all of the source blocks are evaluated in Emacs. You do need to have the Emacs connection set up. Then just choose 'Do Emacs eval' or press ,v with cursor in a source code block to have VimOrganizer send it to Emacs and come back with the output. Alternatively, the source code blocks are by default evaluated on export, so just do export to html and view the results.

Best way would probably be to get it going in Org first to make sure you know how to do it. Then do it in VimOrganizer.

-- Herb

[djp]

If I knew how to do that, I might not be such a candidate for VimOrganizer user.. ;-)

How do I know when my Emacs connection is set up properly? (emacs gui runs fine on this ubuntu natty box)

perhaps the feature-request should be titled "explain Babel use in vimorg, using ledger as an example", as I have not so much idea of what the setup for Babel functions might entail. I've been cutting and pasting various things into my .vimrc, my .emacs file and into my sandbox.org, without success.

considering http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-ledger.html (Using Ledger for Accounting in Org-mode with Babel) with my cursor on the first line of a "#+begin" (of an example block from page above)

#+name: balance
#+begin_src ledger :cmdline -f ~/Documents/accounts/master.ledger -s bal :noweb yes
<>
<>
#+end_src

#+results: balance

",v" seems to do nothing. but menu Org > Do Emacs Eval, seems to do some processing but rather than results I see

"~/org-src-block.org" 7L, 154C
7 fewer lines
Press ENTER or type command to continue

and the block is copied to a text file.. I may not have set up the <> properly.. I'm confused..

[djp]

the #+begin block I entered above lost something in the github translation, the "income" and "expense" targets, and yes, the ledger command I'm using produces a result at the CLI once de-org-ified.

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, djp reply@reply.github.com wrote:

If I knew how to do that, I might not be such a candidate for VimOrganizer user.. ;-)

How do I know when my Emacs connection is set up properly? (emacs gui runs fine on this ubuntu natty box)

If you can export via Emacs then it's set up right. Help on how to set that up is in ':h vimorg-emacs-setup' and ':h vimorg-export'

perhaps the feature-request should be titled "explain Babel use in vimorg, using ledger as an example", as I have not so much idea of what the setup for Babel functions might entail. I've been cutting and pasting various things into my .vimrc, my .emacs file and into my sandbox.org, without success.

Babel source code blocks in VimOrganizer will be identical to what they are in Emacs/Org, so you will want to check the Org documentation on that. As a start, see http://orgmode.org/manual/Working-With-Source-Code.html#Working-With-Source-Code

considering http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-ledger.html (Using Ledger for Accounting in Org-mode with Babel) with my cursor on the first line of a "#+begin" (of an example block from page above)

#+name: balance
#+begin_src ledger :cmdline -f ~/Documents/accounts/master.ledger -s bal :noweb yes
<>
<>
#+end_src

#+results: balance

 ",v" seems to do nothing. but menu Org > Do Emacs Eval, seems to do some processing but rather than results I see

"~/org-src-block.org" 7L, 154C
7 fewer lines
Press ENTER or type command to continue

and the block is copied to a text file.. I may not have set up the <> properly.. I'm confused..

The block that gets copied to the text file is just a temporary work file that Emacs uses. You can check if ,v is mapped correctly by looking at result of this command ':map ,v' (Should show ..silent call OrgEval())

I think you may need to put the ":exports results" option into your source code block header. I.e.,

+begin_src ledger [. . . ] :exports results (or :exports both). See here:

http://orgmode.org/manual/Exporting-code-blocks.html#Exporting-code-blocks

Like I said, best to test your code block in Emacs/Org before you use it in VimOrganizer, takes several variables out of play.

-- Herb

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Herbert Sitz hesitz@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, djp

perhaps the feature-request should be titled "explain Babel use in vimorg, using ledger as an example", as I have not so much idea of what the setup for Babel functions might entail. I've been cutting and pasting various things into my .vimrc, my .emacs file and into my sandbox.org, without success.

The first step is to get Babel working for Ledger in Org. Once you've confirmed that's working it should work in VimOrganizer. Org and ledger documentation is where you go for that.

I think I forgot one step before, which is that you have to make sure to have to make sure the ledger module for babel is loaded in your .emacs file. See this for some more info and/or do a search in archives at http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-ledger.html

You don't really have to "know" Emacs to get it working with VimOrganizer and with Ledger. But you do need to go through the basic configuration steps, since VimOrganizer outsources all of exporting and evaluation stuff to Emacs. I don't know any Emacs key combos; I alway use the Org menu to point and click my way through. . .

-- Herb

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Herbert Sitz hesitz@gmail.com wrote:

You don't really have to "know" Emacs to get it working with VimOrganizer and with Ledger.  But you do need to go through the basic configuration steps, since VimOrganizer outsources all of exporting and evaluation stuff to Emacs.  I don't know any Emacs key combos; I alway use the Org menu to point and click my way through. . .

Plus I edit my .emacs file in Vim. ;)

-- Herb

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Herbert Sitz hesitz@gmail.com wrote:

Like I said, best to test your code block in Emacs/Org before you use it in VimOrganizer, takes several variables out of play.

I would also add: First step in testing with VimOrganizer should be to view results you get by doing an export to pdf or html. If that works, only then go to using ',v' or "Do Emacs Eval' from the menu. Again, this takes one more variable out of the mix when testing.

-- Herb

[djp]

I have another question about exporting, because when I hit ",x" and then select an export, it seems to grid away in a convincing fashion, positive looking feedback, but if it worked I have no idea what it does with the file.. or what it would be called by default.. I've never located the output, if it exists.

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, djp reply@reply.github.com wrote:

I have another question about exporting, because when I hit ",x" and then select an export, it seems to grid away in a convincing fashion, but if it worked I have no idea what it does with the file.. or what it would be called by default.. I've never located the output, if it exists.

All of the exported files should be in same directory as the .org file you're working with. (Or maybe it's just current Vim working directory, not sure.) In any case, try ,xb to automatically open html in a browser or ,xd to automatically open the pdf.

As always, troubleshoot first by opening doc in Emacs and doing Org export there.

Then, if on Linux, make sure that you have a working Emacs server, which requires doing the 'server-start' command either in .emacs or manually doing server-start in running Emacs.

Then try in VimOrganizer.

-- Herb

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Herbert Sitz hesitz@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, djp reply@reply.github.com wrote:

I have another question about exporting, because when I hit ",x" and then select an export, it seems to grid away in a convincing fashion, but if it worked I have no idea what it does with the file.. or what it would be called by default.. I've never located the output, if it exists.

Exported file will have same name with different prefix. E.g., myfile.org exported to html will be myfile.html. Should be in same directory as original file. -- Herb

[hsitz]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Herbert Sitz hesitz@gmail.com wrote:

Exported file will have same name with different prefix.  E.g., myfile.org exported to html will be myfile.html.  Should be in same directory as original file.  -- Herb

Sorry, that should have been "same name with different EXTENSION".