Closed iainsymthe closed 3 years ago
Hi Iain,
Thanks for reporting this bug.
I will wait until the ISRO-dev branch is merged into main (master) before addressing this issue. The source code was cleaned and improved, and the MHD dictionary structure was changed a bit. To answer one of your emails, there is no documentation on MHD as yet.
Regards, Vincent
Hi Iain,
Please update your local copy of hyStrath.
I looked at what was done in the dev-isro-1 branch (now merged into master) last Summer. I decided to remove the Boltzmann electrical conductivity model because the collision data was hard-coded locally (Alexey had done it years ago before improvements were made on this aspect in hy2Foam in 2019). I will add it back once it will be bug-free (I don't have a timeline).
The available models currently are:
This is what the new mhdProperties dictionary looks like: https://vincentcasseau.github.io/how-tos-cfd-fleming/how-tos-cfd-fleming-mhd/
Thanks, Vincent
Hi Vincent: I tried to update my local copy by running install.sh and choosing option 15 (resyn all modules) The install.sh ran successfully and created logSync files for CFD, DSMC, hybridPICDSMC & MHD I tried to rerun the NASA_MSL_forebody_NR-MHD case but deliberately set the conductivityModel as Bush3 in the mhdProperties file and ran Allrun The case stopped (as expected) and said ...Valid conductivityModel types are : 6(BoltzmannBushChapmanCowlingRaizerSpitzerHarmconstSigma) This is different from the conductivity models listed below and includes the Boltzmann model. Is my resync/updating procedure wrong?Could you please let me know the steps for updating my local copy? Thanks Iain On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 09:45:46 AM CST, Vince notifications@github.com wrote:
Hi Iain,
Please update your local copy of hyStrath.
I looked at what was done in the dev-isro-1 branch (now merged into master) last Summer. I decided to remove the Boltzmann electrical conductivity model because the collision data was hard-coded locally (Alexey had done it years ago before improvements were made on this aspect in hy2Foam in 2019). I will add it back once it will be bug-free (I don't have a timeline).
The available models currently are:
This is what the new mhdProperties dictionary looks like: https://vincentcasseau.github.io/how-tos-cfd-fleming/how-tos-cfd-fleming-mhd/
Thanks, Vincent
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Hi Iain,
You took the right decision in trying to re-install everything. It works on my laptop. I will have a look at the compilation issue.
Selecting electrical conductivity model Bush3
--> FOAM FATAL ERROR:
Unknown electricalConductivityModel type Bush3
Valid electricalConductivityModel types are:
5
(
Bush
ChapmanCowling
Raizer
SpitzerHarm
constantElectricalConductivity
)
From function electricalConductivityModel::New(const mhdModel&, const fvMesh&)
in file submodels/electricalConductivityModels/electricalConductivityModel/electricalConductivityModel.C at line 86.
Thanks, Vincent With the complete reinstall the correct options for electrical conductivity are reported when I use "Bush3" as the option. However, this new version is not "backward compatible". There are a few strings in the transportProperties files that have changed as listed below. There may be more - these are the changes I had to make to case that had run with the older version of the code. < binaryDiffusionModel collisionData; //New---> binaryDiffusivityModel GuptaD;//old
< diffusionModelParameters //New---> diffusiveFluxesParameters //old < collisionDataModel "Gupta1989D"; //New---> yearGuptaModel "1989"; //old < tabulatedInteractions //New---> neutralNeutralInteractions //old
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 03:32:13 PM CST, Vince <notifications@github.com> wrote:
Hi Iain,
You took the right decision in trying to re-install everything. It works on my laptop. I will have a look at the compilation issue. Selecting electrical conductivity model Bush3
--> FOAM FATAL ERROR: Unknown electricalConductivityModel type Bush3
Valid electricalConductivityModel types are:
5 ( Bush ChapmanCowling Raizer SpitzerHarm constantElectricalConductivity )
From function electricalConductivityModel::New(const mhdModel&, const fvMesh&)
in file submodels/electricalConductivityModels/electricalConductivityModel/electricalConductivityModel.C at line 86.
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Hi Iain,
It is not backward compatible indeed. This is the reason why I was developing it in another branch. The non-backward compatibility started with commit f120fb5 and the command lines you wrote are typed in the description. I created a new release after that as a marker. https://github.com/vincentcasseau/hyStrath/tags
Regards, Vincent
Thanks, Vincent. I had not checked the github tags link. Luckily, the FIRE-II example was useful in tracking down the changes to get the old case to run again with the new install. On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 08:33:08 AM CST, Vince notifications@github.com wrote:
Hi Iain,
It is not backward compatible indeed. This is the reason why I was developing it in another branch. The non-backward compatibility started with commit f120fb5 and the command lines you wrote are typed in the description. I created a new release after that as a marker. https://github.com/vincentcasseau/hyStrath/tags
Regards, Vincent
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Hi Vincent: The iHat values for various species in the latest version of hystrath (commit 90020f3e9145f9c6e6ce1aca6e0e629c021fdf18) examples is different from the values in the older version (commit 7e6c616a0ae0503a05f49142398989501992a514). I also see that the 4th entry in decoupledCvCoeffs is different in the bluntedCone example and fire-II example the bluntedCone example has decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 0 0 0 0 );whereas FireII cases have decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 1 0 0 0 );Is there a reason for this? Are thecollisionDataOcollisionDataD options for binaryDiffusionModel the same as the Gupta0, GuptaD options in the older version? I am trying to check the results from a case run with the older version with the latest version, so I was trying to make sure I have all the settings the same. ThanksIain
Hi Iain,
I will split my answer in several posts.
iHat (first ionization energy of the species, used in the free-electron impact ionization vibro-electronic source term) values in commit 7e6c616 were taken from Scalabrin's PhD, Table A.1: Species Chemistry Data, page 140. After double-checking the input data with Gupta, Yos, and Thompson, NASA-TM-101528 (Feb. 1989), Document ID: 19890011822 A review of reaction rates and thermodynamic and transport properties for the 11-species air model for chemical and thermal nonequilibrium calculations to 30000 K, Table I, Species data, p 32, I realised his input data was incorrectly ordered.
On page 31, Scalabrin wrote: _the terms Ihats are set to be around 1/3 of the first energy of ionization because the vibro-electronic energy removed by this term would otherwise be over-estimated.
So what I did in 90020f3 is to use Gupta, Yos, and Thompson input species data and to multiply their values by 1/3. This is what you can see in the new thermoDEM dictionaries. Please feel free to double-check it if you will.
Thanks for your careful review, Vincent
Hi Iain,
The bluntedCone example has decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 0 0 0 0 ); whereas fireII cases have decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 1 0 0 0 ); Is there a reason for this?
The difference is whether the electronic energy mode is accounted for or not: please see Choosing a thermoDEM dictionary
It is not accounted for in the bluntedCone test case for 2 reasons:
For the fireII cases however, you have to have it in.
I have made this easier with the new Release: all species can be left uncommented in the thermoDEM dictionary and you can copy-paste & rename one of the thermoDEM dictionaries present in the generic hy2Foam test case into your local working directory.
Thanks, Vincent
Are thecollisionDataOcollisionDataD options for binaryDiffusionModel the same as the Gupta0, GuptaD options in the older version?
Yes, except that there used to be a bug for one of the input coefficients in the tabulated data. This is fixed.
Thanks for the clarifications, Vincent. Can the user use decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 1 0 0 0 ) as default for all problems, so that if T<1000, then the electronic energy is not activated and the electronic modes are activated at higher temps? Thanks again for your prompt responses, Iain On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 01:46:22 PM CST, Vince notifications@github.com wrote:
Hi Iain,
The bluntedCone example has decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 0 0 0 0 ); whereas fireII cases have decoupledCvCoeffs ( 1.5 1 1 1 0 0 0 ); Is there a reason for this?
The difference is whether the electronic energy mode is accounted for or not: please see Choosing a thermoDEM dictionary
It is not accounted for in the bluntedCone test case for 2 reasons:
For the fireII cases however, you have to have it in.
I have made this easier with the new Release: all species can be left uncommented in the thermoDEM dictionary and you can copy-paste & rename one of the thermoDEM dictionaries present in the generic hy2Foam test case into your local working directory.
Thanks, Vincent
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Of course, you can use thermoDEM_TRVE for any test case.
Reasons not to always use thermoDEM_TRVE:
Thanks, Vincent. Indeed, setting the electronic modes ON for every case has a computational penalty. Iain On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 05:06:05 PM CST, Vince notifications@github.com wrote:
Of course, you can use thermoDEM_TRVE for any test case.
Reasons not to always use thermoDEM_TRVE:
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When I try to use the Boltzmann model for hy2mhdFoam with the mhdproperties file set as
mhd true;
mhdModel lowReMag;
collisionData constant;
conductivityModel Boltzmann;
//T0 12000;
//n 2;
//sigma0 1;//5100 for Bush
hallEffect true;
I get an error as
Looking for conductivityModel name Selecting conductivityModel Boltzmann Creating Boltzmann conductivity model conductivity model initialised. Getting conductivity values from the model max(nD_e-) [0 -3 0 0 0 0 0] 0 min(nD_e-) [0 -3 0 0 0 0 0] 0 Calculating electron velocity max(ve) [0 1 -1 0 0 0 0] 116793.4692 Calculating Coulomb logarithm Calculating number density of neutrals max(nn) [0 -3 0 0 0 0 0] 3.76634194e+23 [17] [7] [7] [7] --> FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: [7] keyword transportPropertiesFile is undefined in dictionary "IOstream" [7] [7] file: IOstream from line 0 to line 0. [7] [7] From function const Foam::entry& Foam::dictionary::lookupEntry(const Foam::word&, bool, bool) const [7] in file db/dictionary/dictionary.C at line 551. [7] FOAM parallel run exiting
I tried using the collisionData as "GuptaD1989" as in my transportproperties file but that too gives the same error. Can you provide the mhdproperties file for the Boltzmann option?