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I like the project and would like to contribute. Perhaps you like the
alternative logo that I am attaching

regards,
Karol

Original issue reported on code.google.com by mimoohowy on 25 Mar 2007 at 12:51

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Karol, I like the Knight graphic at http://lobais.blogspot.com/ Would you be 
able to
make an elephant logo for www.hittail.com ? We make our basic service free.

Original comment by mikle...@gmail.com on 25 Mar 2007 at 8:15

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Karol: I really like the logo! It has so much more energy than the old one :)
Only problem about is, than it requires us to move faster in implementing crazy 
house ;)

I seems that it gets quite blurred when you scale it down, which will be 
necessary if
we want the logo in stuff like the title bar.
Even though om not an artist my self, I've read some blogs about this being
necessary. http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/

But again: Very good work!
I also wonder how this could influence the debate of a new name for PyChess :)

miklevin: Perhaps you should send Karol a personal mail about your project :)

Original comment by lobais on 26 Mar 2007 at 5:53

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miklevin: just created the elephant (public domain):
http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/2007/

You will find svg there, so you can play with the colours to fit your site

lobais: if you like the logo, I can tweak it (into comics), because I am not
satisfied with it (even though it took me a few hours). I will also try to see 
about
scaled-down version, though I am not strong at icons :( I just find pychess 
looking
awesome and that motivates me

Karol (mimooh at inf sgsp edu pl)

Original comment by mimoohowy on 28 Mar 2007 at 10:41

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What a nice elephant also! I think you are extremely good doing facial 
expression.

I'm also very happy that you like the way PyChess looks, and I think it can get 
even
better with nice graphics like this logo.
I thinking that this large version could be shown in the beginning, where we 
now have
this smoke/stone background. Then the knight could be put in the down right 
corner,
with same gradient of course.

Now I'm not sure if I should be the right one to tweak the colors, as you are
probably the far most graphical of us :) But I think a little contrast color and
perhaps a gradient on the body would look great! In all tango style.

But if you care tweaking it, and into icon size, that would be very interesting.

I look forward to PyChess supporting piece themes, stuff like this would be 
great :)

Original comment by lobais on 29 Mar 2007 at 5:06

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Sounds like you really like my graphics. I will tweak the knight for sure 
(somehow
not happy with this image). For the time being feel free to play with the
colors/gradients. Since pychess doesn't launch on my computer (the cairo 
problem -
it's my report) I can't see the smoke/stone background ;)

Luckily I can launch pychess at work, so I will check there. I use pychess svn, 
so if
you play with the gradients via svn I will see it there and perhaps can commit
updates if you please created an account for me (mimooh at inf.sgsp.edu.pl). 
Can it
be kept in svg/png? I guess I looked for chess pieces svg files in pychess and 
found
a file that looked like a bunch of bezier paths describing all pieces.

If you like the tango style, then we've got the same taste and will both tweak 
the
knight. As to piece themes I would like to help, but don't feel strong when it 
comes
to low resolutions. But I could see about them too.

regards,
Karol

Original comment by mimoohowy on 29 Mar 2007 at 11:26

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Here comes the new alt logo as I promised. I am pretty happy with the new one,
although it needs tweaks to become an icon. Feel free to play with the 
color/shape.

regards,
Karol 

Original comment by mimoohowy on 22 Apr 2007 at 11:25

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I'm sorry for being so slow replying, but I've been thinking a lot about this. 
First
of all I think the new logo is really great art! I really like the back of the 
knight!
But then I'm not sure about the look of the face. Atm. we're called pychess, 
but I
feel that the comic expression of the knight's face suggests a more imaginative 
name.
Those were my thoughts. I then tried to combine the new and the old one - as 
the old
one looks more serious - but the new one has so many more details so it didn't 
really
work.

Then yesterday I saw the new logo of pidgin: http://pidgin.im/pidgin/home/ 
which is
purple just like the knight. I think the pidgin guys have done a really good 
looking
job, and the pigeon looks really good there.

So what I think we should do is:
 * We should fine a more imaginative name.
   - There is already a report for this, but it's not that easy.
 * The Knight should have a little more different colors.
   - Perhaps gradients and a contrast. Not sure where to put the contrast though..
 * We need to think of a way to scale the knight to 24x24.

I hope you are still interested in the issue. Your art is really great!

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Yes, pidgin looks great. I like both the face and the back of the knight and 
the old
one, the serious one just sucks in my opinion. Feel free to play with it or 
with the
colors. Here comes my icon proposal, but as I said I am not that strong when it 
comes
to low resolution :(

I may try to further tweak the knight, the gradients/contrast, but don't 
promise any
quick new submission.

Original comment by mimoohowy on 6 May 2007 at 7:30

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This one sticks more to the grid and has some more tweaks

Original comment by mimoohowy on 7 May 2007 at 1:09

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I don't know if the pidgin pidgeon looks "great" - it's not much tango - but I 
like
the way it is integrated.

I think your icon approach is good! Maybe the dark orange should be darker in 
the
small versions..

I've tried to add some more colors to the main knight. I couldn't find a way to 
add a
contrast though.
Perhaps, as the horse is somehow higher than wide, we could add another smaller 
piece
in front of the knight, in a contrast color. Just like on the current pychess 
logo?

Original comment by lobais on 7 May 2007 at 5:52

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Yes, if the knight should be the taller then peon is the option, with the comics
face. I could also create a bishop instead of the peon (the clerical version) 
but
bishop should be taller. We are talking about going to up to 200x200px logo with
bishop and knight though.

Original comment by mimoohowy on 7 May 2007 at 11:31

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I tried to do some graphics using the purple logo, and I actually think it 
works very
well!

I don't think it should be combined with a bishop of equal hight, as it would 
look
strange, but a pawn or a king might work.
This largest version would probably be for the desktop icon, while the headpart 
one
would be for the menuitem and titleimage.

Original comment by lobais on 7 May 2007 at 1:26

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My wife and me agreed that blue doesn't go with the rest of the image. Here is 
our
tweaked version. But you decide.

Original comment by mimoohowy on 7 May 2007 at 7:50

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Well, the color of the background will of course always have to be considered
together with the webpage the image is put on.
I thing however that we should try to not make the image _too_ purple.

I came to think that you probably didn't have the Abaddon font used, so I 
thought I
better attach it.

Original comment by lobais on 7 May 2007 at 9:04

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Btw, it is a TrueType even though firefox calls it a binary.

Original comment by lobais on 7 May 2007 at 9:05

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Yes, I don't have the font, but it's getting late so forgive me for not playing 
with
it. Here comes the peon - you name the colors.

btw, if philidor is the proposal for the game, not just the release - it sounds
perfect to me.

How about a chess game one of these days? ;)

Original comment by mimoohowy on 7 May 2007 at 9:37

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Uh nice one again!

I tried to play a little with the knight/pawn composition for the desktop icon. 
A
process which mostly stood in undoing parts of your great work :)

The reason for this is mostly that I think the hand editions shouldn't be in the
icon. I could however easily imagine them being on a news section of the 
webpage or
other where one would like to have some variates.

Original comment by lobais on 8 May 2007 at 9:17

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Uh nice one again!

I tried to play a little with the knight/pawn composition for the desktop icon. 
A
process which mostly stood in undoing parts of your great work :)

The reason for this is mostly that I think the hand editions shouldn't be in the
icon. I could however easily imagine them being on a news section of the 
webpage or
other where one would like to have some variates.

For the name Philidor, it is merely meant as the version name. A guy called 
celobox
(or something) posted a list of former fics grandmasters to the mailinglist. 
Philidor
is number four, so I imagine to use it for 0.8.

Original comment by lobais on 8 May 2007 at 9:19

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We need to integrate the icon into subversion.
Rest of the art can be used when Phillidor is to be announced.

Original comment by lobais on 29 Aug 2007 at 7:02

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Ok, I was a little unsure that people would be able to guess the "head icon"
symbolized a chess client, so I created some new icons, based on the silhouette 
of
the knight and pawn, with the colors from the glchess icon.
The smaller ones gave some slight problems. As they will be used in the 
gnome-panel
and in the titlebar - which are often very light - they can't really be white 
like
the big one.
For the 24x24 I made both black and white edition, but I wasn't sure which to 
take.
Black is sure easier to see, but it doesn't look at much like the big one..

Original comment by lobais on 2 Sep 2007 at 3:02

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Good work - I like the images. 

Original comment by mimoohowy on 2 Sep 2007 at 5:14

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Thanks. I'll try to incorporate them into the game.
Which one do you think works the best of the 24px images?

Original comment by lobais on 2 Sep 2007 at 5:21

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Hm I tried to implement the icons in the game.
I must say that the only two I'm really satisfied with, are the desktop icon 
and the
about image.
The black 24x24 in the menu might also work, but it does look a little alien..
Any ideas?
Oh, and the 16x16 black knight in the title bar looks even more alien, but any 
other
picture looks incredible blurred there. The old icon was blurred too, but it had
those contrast colors, so you were still able to distinguish stuff a bit.

Original comment by lobais on 2 Sep 2007 at 6:07

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As to 24 px, I like 24.png. 
As to small blurred images... I am not good at low resolutions. I am afraid I 
can't
be of any help :(
Geez, 16x16 canvas... horror!

Original comment by mimoohowy on 2 Sep 2007 at 6:53

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Haha, I actually think it is an interesting task reducing those images :)
I also read this very interesting article:
http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/07/11/icon_design/

I designed some new 24 and 16 pixel images. I think they are better than the old
ones, even though they only have a single line border. They also make the look 
more
general. All white icons.

Original comment by lobais on 3 Sep 2007 at 6:36

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The article is in fact interesting. 
It looks like you are getting better with low res, congrats!

Original comment by mimoohowy on 3 Sep 2007 at 11:27

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The logo is now widely integrated in PyChess.
Very nice it is.

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> The logo is now widely integrated in PyChess.
I saw it on pychess site and an mini icon on some screenshot. Thanks for
choosing my art for you project.

> Very nice it is.
Seems to me Yoda fan you are :)

Original comment by mimoohowy on 21 Dec 2007 at 3:08

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Hi Karlo, if you are still listening to this thread and do still have a little 
time
to contribute to the project, I wondered if you had an idea for the PyChess 
fontwork?

I'm trying to design a tshirt for the project, but the Abaddon font is given me
problem due to sharp s'es that are not easily printable. I also guess that it 
is not
a good idea to use a commercial font as logo, when you can't even remember how 
you
got it :P

I imagine a balance between too cartoony and too commercial. Perhaps with a 
slight
ancient look, but without many sharp edges that are uneasy to print.
I hope you have a bit of time left for this project :)

Cheers, Thomas

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Hi Thomas,

> to contribute to the project, I wondered if you had an idea for the PyChess
> fontwork?
As to fontworks, I could prepare a single handmade cartoony inscription, such
as here:
http://www.sgsp.edu.pl/intranet/email/img/banner.png
http://gpzoliborza.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/banner.png
http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/STRAZ/ZAKLAD/zil_logo.png
http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/2008/jesien2008.png

No problem for such.

Regards,
Karol

Original comment by jkren...@gmail.com on 11 Jun 2009 at 7:41

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Yes, these all look really great.
Do you think it can have a little ancient look or in some way refere to chess?
Perhaps by black and white squares..

Original comment by lobais on 11 Jun 2009 at 11:32

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Thomas,

I suggest you propose some ancient look (I found some on google, but it's 
better you
choose one) and I will do the inscrption in that style. I understand it should 
read

PyChess

Regards,
Karol

Original comment by mimoohowy on 14 Jun 2009 at 7:59

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Is jkrenska and mimoohowy both your accounts?

Well, I like the old font of course, it is just too sharp in some of the 
letters.
I also like the rybka logo:
http://www.rybkachess.com/RYBKA-worlds-strongest-chess-engine-UCI-best-chess-UCI
-software-greatest-chess-engine-software-UCI-top-chess-software-engine-UCI/logo.
gif
It is has a good balance of cartoon and seriousness I think :P

I don't want to restrict you though. If you've found something good on the web, 
then
maybe that can be inspirational as well.

PyChess it should read :)

Best Regards, Thomas

Original comment by lobais on 14 Jun 2009 at 10:16

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Hi again,

Yes, I am both jkrenska and mimoohowy. Here comes the work. The gray 
inscription is
for you to play and modify - you just change the curves > duplicate > union the 
paths
> outset the new path and change the colour.

Regards,
Karol

Original comment by mimoohowy on 4 Jul 2009 at 10:04

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Hi Karol,
I hope you had a nice summer holiday.
I quite like the energy and the tweeking of the logo.
I think however, we need the logo to be a bit more "oldschool" looking, not so 
much
in the style, the red border is very nice, but more in the font.
Did you make this one all by hand, or is it based on some font you have?

/Thomas

Original comment by lobais on 21 Aug 2009 at 9:44

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Thomas,

The font is done by hand. It's been done pretty fast, so if you give me images 
or the
hints for what you refer to as "oldschool" I can do similar probably. Mine looks
cartoony, becasue this is the style I like. Holiday was fine, hope yours too.

Regards,
Karol

Original comment by mimoohowy on 21 Aug 2009 at 10:38

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I know my specifications are a bit flussy, but I'm also quite open (I think) :)
I think this logo is very styly:
http://www.thanetchess.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/thanetchess_l
ogo.gif
But perhaps you can also get inspiration from these fonts:
http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=402&nb_ppp=50 witch give a feel of, perhaps
"classic" is the best word.

I hope that was any help :)
Cheers, Thomas

Original comment by lobais on 21 Aug 2009 at 11:43

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Thomas,

I looked at the links given and this is definately not my style + there are so 
many
variations that I suggest I am not the one to make the logo. I am more into 
cartoons.
You could try yourself by hand or by installing the preferred font.

Karol

Original comment by mimoohowy on 2 Sep 2009 at 2:53

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Hi Karol,
I've tried working with a lot of fonts and I've come down to something 
promising, I
think.
I feel however that the way the logo interacts with the text (see the 
attachment)
provides to little dynamics, and is thus irrelevant. If you look at the Thannet 
chess
logo, the wave under the icon somehow makes the two poles merge better.

If you have time, I hope you will try to experiment how the knight and pawn 
drawings
can best supply the rest of the logo.

Thanks,
/Thomas

Original comment by lobais on 16 Sep 2009 at 9:53

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