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[neil-ices-dk]

Platform (SHIPC) #219

[neil-ices-dk]

29 Sep, the vocab management group will discuss the setup of the cetaceans specific vocabs

[neil-ices-dk]

@pcrjoana to add a list (inc. URL) of new vocabs once they are setup aim to finish on 11th October and then link to format

[pcrjoana]

Not all vocabularies have been inserted yet. Here's a list of the vocabularies that have been added:

Behaviour SurveyTeam CouldCover Precipitation Beaufort Sightability Grading - for turbidity, etc SwellHeight PositioningDevice CofidenceRating Cue ASTSA SurveyType

[neil-ices-dk]

remaining vocab setup will hopefully be done in the end of October, first week of November. Joana will create the vocab types (without the codes) which will allow Carlos to progress on the database creation.

[pcrjoana]

The vocabularies that have already been added or otherwise already existed, have been linked to the format. A summary of the vocabularies linked to the format can be seen in DATSU.

[pcrjoana]

AngleOfSearch, SightingPosition, and TargetTaxa have been added today. Joana to add the links to this ticket tomorrow, 29/10. Those codetypes will be linked to the format latest by the end of 29/10.

[pcrjoana]

Vocabularies that already exist, and might have extra codes added: BD_CountMethod EDMO SHIPC Platform_Class

[neil-ices-dk]

@pcrjoana to check for spellings and typo's in all vocabs i.e. behaviour and make the small changes that came through from latest format.

[neil-ices-dk]

BD_Count codes changed from characters to numbers to be consistent with existing code vocab; to be updated in data standard

[pcrjoana]

All the vocabularies have been inserted to the system and linked to the data format. For a summary of which vocabularies are to be used in each field, please consult datsu.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

@pcrjoana just flagging there are still only 2 platform classes in the template: 54 airship and 3Z surface vessel - we agreed to remove airship and retain the original 'Aeroplane' and 'Unmanned aerial vehicle'

[pcrjoana]

Thank you Nikki! I changed this, but it probably got lost in the multiple template exchanges. I'll update it.

[pcrjoana]

Now that I'm looking at this again, I'm wondering if I forgot to save the changes...I'll also need to add the new/changed codes to behaviour.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

@pcrjoana the codes for targettaxa are also not the same as the data standard: standard is 'cetacean, multi taxa, secondary'; the template is currently 'multispecies' and 'cetaceans only'. These are incorrect...we need the codes as in standard...

[pcrjoana]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC In the datastandard v7 we have "cetacean", "multispecies", and "other". We agreed that "other" shouldn't be a code, and that new codes should be requested. Are we adding a "secondary" code? What is the description?

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

Now that I'm looking at this again, I'm wondering if I forgot to save the changes...I'll also need to add the new/changed codes to behaviour.

Can we also remove the commas from the survey id format in identifiers?

[pcrjoana]

Now that I'm looking at this again, I'm wondering if I forgot to save the changes...I'll also need to add the new/changed codes to behaviour.

Can we also remove the commas from the survey id format in identifiers?

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

Back to TargetTaxa, can "Cetaceans only" remain as it is? The reason for this is to avoid having redundant codes with the ESAS data.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC In the datastandard v7 we have "cetacean", "multispecies", and "other". We agreed that "other" shouldn't be a code, and that new codes should be requested. Are we adding a "secondary" code? What is the description?

'Cetaceans': Cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises) are the primary focus of the survey and observers/equipment are dedicating time on effort to detecting them. 'Multi-taxa': Cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises) and other species (e.g. birds; turtles, sharks) are the primary focus of the survey. Although observers/equipment are searching for cetaceans at all times; search is also being carried out for other species which may impact the capacity to detect cetaceans 'Secondary': Cetaceans (whales, dolphins and porpoises) are not the target taxa for the survey but may be recorded on an opportunistic basis. Search for cetaceans is not dedicated and may not be constant within a period of effort.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

The trouble with 'cetaceans only' is that we aren't restricting it to cetaceans only...there may be other records on a cetacean survey, which is particularly common in citizen science surveys...(see definition)

[pcrjoana]

I'll bring this to the vocabulary management group. :-)

[pcrjoana]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC we just discussed this in the vocabulary management group. We will add "secondary" to TargetTaxa. Dropping the "only" in "cetaceans only" is something that needs to be approved by ESAS. We can probably include in the description that cetaceans are the main target, since our understanding is that a survey targeting only a group of species does not exclude other taxonomic groups being recorded on an opportunistic basis.

[pcrjoana]

Another thing @NikkiTaylorJNCC, the dedicated vs opportunistic survey is already covered in another field. Does this need to be mentioned again in TargetTaxa? It feels like we're mixing concepts here.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC we just discussed this in the vocabulary management group. We will add "secondary" to TargetTaxa. Dropping the "only" in "cetaceans only" is something that needs to be approved by ESAS. We can probably include in the description that cetaceans are the main target, since our understanding is that a survey targeting only a group of species does not exclude other taxonomic groups being recorded on an opportunistic basis.

OK, I just think having 'only' will be confusing and we are relying on people reading the full description.

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

Another thing @NikkiTaylorJNCC, the dedicated vs opportunistic survey is already covered in another field. Does this need to be mentioned again in TargetTaxa? It feels like we're mixing concepts here.

They are both needed - one refers to the focal taxa, the other refers to the nature of the platform.

[pcrjoana]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC alright. :-) The vocabulary management group agreed to implement it, I just wanted to make sure.

If there are any other changes to the current codes that you'd like implemented, could you send it over by end of day on Thursday, please? We have the next vocabulary management group on Monday morning, and that would still allow time for me to send any changes to the group and for the group to review them. It also gives me to implement potential changes ahead of the workshop on Wednesday.

I assume the format itself is finalised. :-)

[NikkiTaylorJNCC]

@pcrjoana - I have just gone through the data standard against the vocab tab in the template v I downloaded from the cetacean link on the landing page - so I may not have the latest template version. Some subsequent comments to consider, hopefully nothing too monumental! Shout if anything is unclear and if you can respond to the list to say what has happened, if anything, I can make sure the data standard doc is amended. • Don't need code 19 - double platform line transect, under BD count method.

• Target taxa - already discussed the three options needed (Cetacean; Multi-taxa; Secondary) with a pref to remove 'only' after 'cetacean' that currently exists. Multispecies could also be multitaxa instead if simple to change. If not, not a huge deal, I can amend the standard. • Swell height - H needs to be very high 3+m and need an addition of H - high 2-3m • Glare missing from the template - vocab tab: Not recorded; None; Slight; Moderate; Strong - is this missing because the vocab is the same as others? Think it still needs to be included in the vocab tab. • PrecipIntentisy missing from template - vocab tab: Not recorded; Slight; Moderate; Strong. As above. • Visibility - 'not recorded' needs to be added as this is now a mandatory field. • CloudCover is missing 'not recorded' in the template vocab tab . E - description is a copy and paste error - needs to be 81-100% • Yes/No field - needs addition of 'possible' • Can 'sighting position' be renamed 'sighting direction'?

[neil-ices-dk]

Target taxa - remove 'only' in template vocab In template #12 to label vocabs that are used for multiple fields appropriately so it is clear which ones are connected to each vocab

• add JCDP name label above each vocab

Yes/No field - needs addition of 'possible' @pcrjoana to discuss with vocab governance group to establish a new vocab

vocab: will remain as 'sighting position'

[pcrjoana]

@NikkiTaylorJNCC the "Secondary" added to TargetTaxa is instead "Cetaceans as secondary target taxa", to keep consistency with the remaining codes in the vocabulary. The description in the template will be shortened to "Secondary", though.