Open jmeier opened 1 year ago
Hello
what element type are you using? This is the default output message for when the quality routine is not implemented on an element
Guillaume
Dear Guillaume,
Thank you for your reply. I'm using TET10. May I suggest to tweak the error message to inform the user that the quality routine is not implemented for this element type?
Jörg
@roystgnr how difficult would it be to get TET10 implemented?
The quality
implementation or the error message that comes from missing implementations comes from libMesh so it might be worth "transferring" this issue to libMesh
We can keep this on the MOOSE side since it's exposed by one of MOOSE's objects. I've opened the corresponding libmesh issue https://github.com/libMesh/libmesh/issues/3612
how difficult would it be to get TET10 implemented?
Note that quality
isn't implemented for any tets, not just tet10
I think there might not be a single measure of quality for tets. There's at least metric tied to angles, maybe there are others?
We've defined DIAGONAL
for Hex/Quad and TAPER
for Hex (but not Quad?), but those wouldn't make sense for Tet.
We have STRETCH
for Tri, so you'd think it would apply to Tet too, but I'm not sure what the definition is on the non-tensor-product case. It couldn't be the same as what we have commented for STRETCH
for Quad and Hex (where the code doesn't match the comment but the code looks right...)
We have ASPECT_RATIO
for Quad, which seems like it would make sense for any Elem type. Likewise SHAPE
/SKEW
? I don't think I've got the reference for the latter, but I think (although, as the discerning reader will by this point have guessed, this is my first time looking at some of this code...) the former would be easy to put in.
We don't seem to have any of this specialized for higher-order geometric Elem, though. I guess the theory is that if you've got good vertex positions then the mid nodes are easy, and if you don't then the mid nodes are irrelevant? Either that or the theory is that this is hard so we'll just do the basics.
Seems fair for the second order case.
As a sidenote: Two options for quality measures for TET/TRI elements:
Quality Spheres: The quality of TET elements may be defined as the (normalised) quotient of the inner sphere radius and the outer sphere radius. Normalisation results in a value of 1.0 for an equilateral tetrahedron. For TRI elements, the quality may be defined analogously from the normalised quotient of the inner circle radius and the outer circle radius (where an equilateral triangle is normalised to 1.0). This quality measure obviously ignores the intermediate nodes for TET10, TRI6, and higher.
Quality SICN: Other FE programmes use a "signed inverse condition number" ("quality SICN") as a quality feature taking into account the intermediate nodes. Here one may find more information about this: Johnen (2021): Quality Measures for Curvilinear Finite Elements
@jmeier can you give the reason for why you are closing the issue? This helps with our software quality assurance
This was not intentional.
Bug Description
I'm running MOOSE Version: git commit b38350ebf7 on 2023-08-04 In my simulation I requested Moose to write some quality measurement to an AuxVariable. Unfortunately, when executing the simulation I get:
I found an issue mentioning similar behavior without solving it: 12131
Steps to Reproduce
In a Moose model, add the following blocks and execute the model:
Impact
The model itselfs runs with no additional problems. The AuxVariable is created, but set to no meaningful value.