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Pre-allocation to RATS Conceptual Message Wrapper Indicators" registry #90

Closed nedmsmith closed 1 month ago

nedmsmith commented 1 month ago

IANA is not allowed to create a new registry and create pre-allocation entries.

RFC 7120 allows for early allocations from existing registries (with chair and AD approval, or just AD approval if the document is AD-sponsored), but it doesn't permit the early creation of registries.

We are looking at how to make this work for a 7120bis (no text yet), which we'll be discussing with the IESG in Vancouver, but that's not very helpful at the moment. (Logistical issues include what to do with abandoned registries given that we prefer not to delete them, whether intended registration procedure should affect the early registration procedure, and how allocations from yet-to-be-approved documents should be carried over when the IESG approves the document that contains the registry.)

In the meantime, the two options available would probably be to 1) include any other drafts' registrations in the document that contains the registry, and use a "reference" field to refer to those other drafts, or 2) limit the registrations in the I-D version of the registry as desired, but have the WG maintain a living registry of some kind in a wiki or in github that can contain entries for other documents. In the latter case, it would be important to make sure that nobody can add entries to that living pre-registry once IANA creates the actual registry.

IANA expert also asked the CMW authors to add the following text to the IANA section, table 2, for this registry: "4-255 | Unassigned".

thomas-fossati commented 1 month ago

In terms of new registries, we only create the "CMW indicators", which comes pre-populated with a bunch of reasonable codepoints already.

To cover the (remote?) risk of someone wanting to add further registration in the short term, I like the idea of handling a "provisional registry" page as a file under revision control in the msg-wrap repo. People wanting to add their codepoints would make a PR changing that file (and the I-D).

(Let me know if you are OK with the proposal above and I'll go ahead and add the file and document the procedure in the I-D.)

nedmsmith commented 1 month ago

So, we should say no to IANA for using the provisional registry?

thomas-fossati commented 1 month ago

So, we should say no to IANA for using the provisional registry?

yes, we can host the provisional registry ourselves and shut it down when IANA takes over.

nedmsmith commented 1 month ago

I withdrew the IANA request for CMW Indicators registry early allocation.

thomas-fossati commented 1 month ago

I withdrew the IANA request for CMW Indicators registry early allocation.

Cool. I'll take this as a yes to my question: https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/draft-ietf-rats-msg-wrap/issues/90#issuecomment-2141676903 :-)