Request to work with Magic Trackpad 1

[meeebee]

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Describe the solution you'd like A clear and concise description of what you want to happen. Would like to see the same driver used for the first version of Apple's Magic Trackpad 1.

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AB#650

[povlhp]

I would like Magic TrackPad 1 support as well. Can not use this driver. I uses generic mouse driver. I can move and click. No right.click even with modifiers

[fabeit]

There are only paid alternatives for TP1

[lothar-cell]

I'd also be happy to see support for Magic Trackpad 1!

[GenieTim]

Can't you just use the Bootcamp Drivers for Magic Trackpad 1? https://support.apple.com/downloads/bootcamp-windows-drivers -> download Boot Camp Support Software -> Unpack Zip -> Install the drivers needed from within the zip, such as zip:BootCamp/Drivers/Apple/AppleWirelessTrackpad64.exe and AppleMultiTouchTrackPadInstaller64.exe

[lothar-cell]

Yes, that's what I use, but the right-click implementation is a pain, it misinterprets the taps. A very sloppy job from apple.

[MrJonhnny]

+++ to mt1 support

[imbushuo]

🤔 Sounds not too bad, will be added in the backlog.

[AFuFred]

That‘s great！ Thank YOU！

🤔 Sounds not too bad, will be added in the backlog.

[GraphicHealer]

@imbushuo does this driver have Magic Trackpad 1 support or no? Its not clear from this thread as to weather this has been implemented since the last comment or not.

[CottonEvoker]

I'd also really like to see this made to work with Magic Trackpad 1.

[alimas7]

Can't you just use the Bootcamp Drivers for Magic Trackpad 1? https://support.apple.com/downloads/bootcamp-windows-drivers -> download Boot Camp Support Software -> Unpack Zip -> Install the drivers needed from within the zip, such as zip:BootCamp/Drivers/Apple/AppleWirelessTrackpad64.exe and AppleMultiTouchTrackPadInstaller64.exe

Built-in MacBook Touchpad works nicely with https://github.com/imbushuo/mac-precision-touchpad/releases/tag/2105-3979.

Wireless Magic Trackpad 1 works almost as well with Bootcamp AppleWirelessTrackpad64.exe and the following registry flips in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\HID\<find your VID PID from \Device Parameters per https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/63598/invert-scrolling-on-windows-bootcamp/312504#312504.

"FlipFlopWheel"=dword:00000001
"FlipFlopHScroll"=dword:00000001

Disabling and reenabling the device is quick to get those registry changes to become effective, no need to reboot.

The mention of "almost" is because the Magic TP1 feels a bit jerky and doesn't behave as the built-in Touchpad.

For example, with the built-in Touchpad, I can swipe (two fingers swipe and let go) to scroll up/down and scrolling will slowly decelerate after fingers are lifted. With the Bootcamp driver, swiping in the same manner abruptly stops as soon as fingers are lifted up from Magic TP1, no slow deceleration, doesn't feel "natural".

[lothar-cell]

Also click and drag is interpreted as two-finger click, unless left or right lower corner is used for clicking. This and no proper “rubberband” scrolling (or touch gestures) makes a restrained user experience.

[fabeit]

The other problem with the Boot Camp drivers is that they don't have any other gestures such as three finger drag, pinch and zoom, three and four finger gestures.

[lothar-cell]

100% agree, and payed alternatives have been capitalising this situation (even extramagic, which is a half-baked implementation anyway, as for magic utilities I despise subscription-based software).

[krackers]

@imbushuo Here's finger data frame format for MT1, based on both linux driver as well as my own reverse engineering.

struct __attribute__((__packed__)) mt1_finger {
    SInt16 X: 13;
    SInt16 Y: 13;
        UInt8 Unk1: 3;
    UInt8 Unk2: 3;
    UInt8 Touch_Major: 8;
    UInt8 Touch_Minor: 8;
    UInt8 Size: 6;
    UInt8 TrackingId: 4;
    UInt8 Orientation: 6;
    UInt8 FingerId: 4;
    UInt8 HoverState: 4;
};

Still not sure what unk1 and unk2 are though. They seem to be some sort of relative coordinates as unk2 increases as you drag finger right and up, and decreases as you go down and left. unk1 is similar but more sensitive.

Also it seems magic trackpad 1 is not that good at detecting finger id when compared to internal trackpad. It always misinterprets palm as thumb, which frequently leads to false taps.

[krackers]

For completeness, here is header format

struct __attribute__((__packed__)) HEADER {
    UInt8 report_id: 8;
    UInt8 button_data: 6;
    UInt32 timestamp: 18;
};

Each frame consists of 4 byte header as above followed by 9 bytes of finger data as in other struct, as can be seen from linux driver.. Finally to enable multitouch mode you have to send a report to the trackpad, just as in mt2 I believe. Let me know if any other information is needed here, but I believe this should be sufficient to begin reading frames from the trackpad? There are other set/get reports that are sent during the initial handshake though, I don't know how to decode those yet. I'm guessing based on MT2 work that some probably include trackpad dimensions, but this should be a fixed constant so it's not really needed.

[GoldenJoe]

+1, it would add a lot of utility to the older model.

[GraphicHealer]

All for the Magic Tracpad 1 unite! And down with Magic Utilities! DOWN WITH STUPID SUBSCRIPTION SOFTWARE!!!!

[bruder-grimm]

A new trackpad would be more expensive than donating - I'd be happy to implicitly pay for MT1 support!

[GraphicHealer]

I would too, but it ended up being used on a mac and I cannot send it now. :(

[fschuh]

+1 for Magic Trackpad 1 support! Please make it happen, lots of us still have some of these lying around :)

[efouladi]

+1 and thanks for the awesome work

[piereligio]

Is there any hope to get this supported? It would be amazing

[superluig164]

I'd love to see this, recently got a Magic Trackpad 1 from a donation event and I'd love to be able to use it to its fullest on Windows.

[CottonEvoker]

I'd still like to see this too @superluig164 , but I think we need to keep expectations in check at this point.

Prior to your post it was 10+ months since this request last got a +1.

[superluig164]

I think it's better to add my opinion and hopefully one day it happens than to let the post get even more abandoned and give the impression that nobody is interested in the feature anymore. I'm not expecting it to happen tomorrow. Just adding my +1 to help.

[mikry13]

+1 from me Actually, I would like to research into the possible solution, but don't quite know where to start, because I'm completely new to Drivers/Bluetooth stuff. For now I'm collecting some logs for my Magic Trackpad 1 using Microsoft Bluetooth Test Platform package and learning about Bluetooth reverse engineering as I have some free time on the weekends.

Maybe if someone with some knowledge is interested and we can communicate somehow (discord?) to slowly move towards the solution?

I guess it will be better than just waiting something to happen.

[krackers]

The mt1 frame layout is already fairly well reverse engineered, thanks to linux drivers. See https://github.com/imbushuo/mac-precision-touchpad/issues/358#issuecomment-1037691730. So not much reversing work should be needed, I think it's just a matter of someone hacking up this code to interpret the mt1 frames instead of the mt2 frames.

[anothermimich]

+1

Would love to see the MT1 working on it's full glory on windows :)

[Darthagnon]

I would love to see the Magic Touchpad 1 (A1339) working with precision drivers on Windows. I love that it has removable batteries, rather than a built-in batteries of the later models - makes it longer lasting, less disposable tech.

[axeligl]

Hi! I got my Magic Trackpad 1 (A1339) working okey with click, right click, scroll... but I want to use the three fingers gesture to change desktop on windows 11. I got working with the bootcamp driver as @krackers said. Is there anyway toget those gestures work?

[GraphicHealer]

@axeligl: You might try the Magic Utilities which supports the Magic Trackpad 1 with 3 finger dragging, even with drag-lock as seen in macOS.

Yeah, but the point of this github was to have an open source and free alternative to Magic Utilities. They charge for their driver.

[heyitzrare]

+1 for MT1 support - I found one CIB at a thrift store for super cheap, and I would love to use it in my workflow :)