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Hebrew (Modern New Testament) is bad #26

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hi!
I'm from Israel (Jewish beleiver in Christ)
It's a well known problem with semetic languages.
Probably applying: dir="RTL" all over the Hebrew will solve it!

PLEASE & THANK YOU!

I appricace your work!!

Original issue reported on code.google.com by sheep...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 4:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hi,
I did turn on rtl in a previous version of and-bible but it was a mess and 
in-line Strongs references made it worse because of poor Android bidi support 
but I will look at turning this on again and see how it affects Hebrew (Modern 
New Testament).  If you can't wait you could go back to And Bible 0.0.13 
(http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list?can=1) which (I think) had 
rtl turned on for specific rtl documents.

I sympathise with Jewish people wrt the poor rtl language poor support in 
Android and in And Bible.  I do hope to provide better support for rtl 
languages in the future.

Martin

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 5:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hi Martin!
First - THANKS!

Another issue is mixing words with numbers (in Hebrew) which also cause a mess, 
is it possible to try and make the numbers dissapear? in the OT in Hebrew 
everything is in letters...

1 = א (a)
2 = ב (b)
3 = ג (c)
....

Original comment by sheep...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2010 at 5:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I have done some more investigation into this and although Android 2.2 supports 
Hebrew, RTL support is not complete.  RTL will work if only consonants are 
displayed but as soon as a vowel is inserted the text direction becomes 
confused.

This is what I have seen through experiments and is confirmed in 
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1580#c149
"I'm running the froyo beta, and hebrew letters work, but in the browser RTL 
only works when there are only consonants."

I am not giving up but I need to think again now.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 28 Dec 2010 at 7:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
You will have a few thusand Israeli believers android users counting on you ;)
b.t.w what about just putting it up as image?

or, having a version without any punctuation ?

Tnx!

Original comment by sheep...@gmail.com on 28 Dec 2010 at 8:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The Modern Hebrew Bible to which you originally referred does not seem to 
contain vowels.  Are native Hebrew speakers happy with no vowels?  Vowels are 
considered essential by English people I know who study the Tanakh.

I have done some tests on the Modern Hebrew Bible and found that the colon at 
the end of each verse also causes Android bidi problems but I think I can work 
around it.

Would you be happy to e-mail me direct so that I can reply with some screen 
prints for you to check (my Hebrew is almost nil)?  help.andbible@gmail.com 
comes direct to me and me alone.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 29 Dec 2010 at 4:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I made some progress with Modern Hebrew which does not have Nikud/vowels 
pointing.

The following link mentions the Nikud issue and holds out hope for an 
improvement in the next Android update named Honeycomb: 
http://groups.google.com/group/android-contrib/browse_thread/thread/5b6b079f9ec7
792a?pli=1

Trying to guess when Honeycomb is due I notice that a Honeycomb tablet is due 
out Feb 11: 
http://tablets-planet.com/2010/12/30/motorolas-upcoming-android-honeycomb-tablet
-name-and-release-date-leaked/

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 31 Dec 2010 at 4:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The removal of vowels and addition of the rtl tag, which was removed in a 
previous release, seems to have made Hebrew bible display acceptable.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 23 Jan 2011 at 9:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Thank you for all the grat job you are doing!

Original comment by sheep...@gmail.com on 30 Jan 2011 at 12:49