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Zip code #254

Closed masciam closed 1 year ago

masciam commented 2 years ago

I am working on a geospatial use case for NIEHS and we would need a ZIP CODE term. I have look at the definition is in IAO "Term IRI: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/IAO_0000648 Definition: A postal code that is used in the United States for the purpose of sorting and delivering mail, and that denotes some postal delivery route or some aggregate of postal delivery routes." and I would like to have some clarification We are using the zip code to identify a specific address ( geographical location) and not for postal reason as the definition states. Is there any way we could change the definition with one that will include the location information and not only linked to postal services?

hoganwr commented 2 years ago

This is exactly what a ZIP code is, as defined by the US Postal Service.

If you need ZIP Code Tabulation Areas, as created by the US Census Bureau, that is an entirely different thing. These things do in fact refer to specific geographical regions.

A delivery ZIP can in fact and often does differ from a ZCTA.

The two are different, and should be distinguished.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:16 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

I am working on a geospatial use case for NIEHS and we would need a ZIP CODE term. I have look at the definition is in IAO "Term IRI: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/IAO_0000648 Definition: A postal code that is used in the United States for the purpose of sorting and delivering mail, and that denotes some postal delivery route or some aggregate of postal delivery routes." and I would like to have some clarification We are using the zip code to identify a specific address ( geographical location) and not for postal reason as the definition states. Is there any way we could change the definition with one that will include the location information and not only linked to postal services?

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masciam commented 2 years ago

Bill , Thanks for the reply. The information store in the data are a ‘zip code’ but, what they really need is the geographical area. I think this is a misuse of the zip code in the geospatial studies.

I would need to link the zip code to the ZCTA. for what I know there is not a direct link. I may try to create a link by using a GIS. I could not find a definition for ZCAT do you know if there is one ?

Thanks AM

From: Bill Hogan @.> Date: Friday, April 22, 2022 at 1:50 PM To: information-artifact-ontology/IAO @.> Cc: Anna Maria Masci @.>, Author @.> Subject: Re: [information-artifact-ontology/IAO] Zip code (Issue #254) This is exactly what a ZIP code is, as defined by the US Postal Service.

If you need ZIP Code Tabulation Areas, as created by the US Census Bureau, that is an entirely different thing. These things do in fact refer to specific geographical regions.

A delivery ZIP can in fact and often does differ from a ZCTA.

The two are different, and should be distinguished.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:16 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

I am working on a geospatial use case for NIEHS and we would need a ZIP CODE term. I have look at the definition is in IAO "Term IRI: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/IAO_0000648 Definition: A postal code that is used in the United States for the purpose of sorting and delivering mail, and that denotes some postal delivery route or some aggregate of postal delivery routes." and I would like to have some clarification We are using the zip code to identify a specific address ( geographical location) and not for postal reason as the definition states. Is there any way we could change the definition with one that will include the location information and not only linked to postal services?

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hoganwr commented 2 years ago

The Census bureau page on ZCTAs is here: https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/geography/guidance/geo-areas/zctas.html

it says the following:

"ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs) are generalized areal representations of United States Postal Service (USPS) ZIP Code service areas.

The USPS ZIP Codes identify the individual post office or metropolitan area delivery station associated with mailing addresses. USPS ZIP Codes are not areal features but a collection of mail delivery routes.

The term ZCTA was created to differentiate between this entity and true USPS ZIP Codes. ZCTA is a trademark of the U.S. Census Bureau; ZIP Code is a trademark of the U.S. Postal Service."

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

Bill , Thanks for the reply. The information store in the data are a ‘zip code’ but, what they really need is the geographical area. I think this is a misuse of the zip code in the geospatial studies.

I would need to link the zip code to the ZCTA. for what I know there is not a direct link. I may try to create a link by using a GIS. I could not find a definition for ZCAT do you know if there is one ?

Thanks AM

From: Bill Hogan @.> Date: Friday, April 22, 2022 at 1:50 PM To: information-artifact-ontology/IAO @.> Cc: Anna Maria Masci @.>, Author @.> Subject: Re: [information-artifact-ontology/IAO] Zip code (Issue #254) This is exactly what a ZIP code is, as defined by the US Postal Service.

If you need ZIP Code Tabulation Areas, as created by the US Census Bureau, that is an entirely different thing. These things do in fact refer to specific geographical regions.

A delivery ZIP can in fact and often does differ from a ZCTA.

The two are different, and should be distinguished.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:16 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

I am working on a geospatial use case for NIEHS and we would need a ZIP CODE term. I have look at the definition is in IAO "Term IRI: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/IAO_0000648 Definition: A postal code that is used in the United States for the purpose of sorting and delivering mail, and that denotes some postal delivery route or some aggregate of postal delivery routes." and I would like to have some clarification We are using the zip code to identify a specific address ( geographical location) and not for postal reason as the definition states. Is there any way we could change the definition with one that will include the location information and not only linked to postal services?

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masciam commented 2 years ago

Thank you AM

On Apr 26, 2022, at 07:12, Bill Hogan @.***> wrote:

 The Census bureau page on ZCTAs is here: https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/geography/guidance/geo-areas/zctas.html

it says the following:

"ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs) are generalized areal representations of United States Postal Service (USPS) ZIP Code service areas.

The USPS ZIP Codes identify the individual post office or metropolitan area delivery station associated with mailing addresses. USPS ZIP Codes are not areal features but a collection of mail delivery routes.

The term ZCTA was created to differentiate between this entity and true USPS ZIP Codes. ZCTA is a trademark of the U.S. Census Bureau; ZIP Code is a trademark of the U.S. Postal Service."

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

Bill , Thanks for the reply. The information store in the data are a ‘zip code’ but, what they really need is the geographical area. I think this is a misuse of the zip code in the geospatial studies.

I would need to link the zip code to the ZCTA. for what I know there is not a direct link. I may try to create a link by using a GIS. I could not find a definition for ZCAT do you know if there is one ?

Thanks AM

From: Bill Hogan @.> Date: Friday, April 22, 2022 at 1:50 PM To: information-artifact-ontology/IAO @.> Cc: Anna Maria Masci @.>, Author @.> Subject: Re: [information-artifact-ontology/IAO] Zip code (Issue #254) This is exactly what a ZIP code is, as defined by the US Postal Service.

If you need ZIP Code Tabulation Areas, as created by the US Census Bureau, that is an entirely different thing. These things do in fact refer to specific geographical regions.

A delivery ZIP can in fact and often does differ from a ZCTA.

The two are different, and should be distinguished.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:16 PM Anna Maria Masci @.***> wrote:

I am working on a geospatial use case for NIEHS and we would need a ZIP CODE term. I have look at the definition is in IAO "Term IRI: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/IAO_0000648 Definition: A postal code that is used in the United States for the purpose of sorting and delivering mail, and that denotes some postal delivery route or some aggregate of postal delivery routes." and I would like to have some clarification We are using the zip code to identify a specific address ( geographical location) and not for postal reason as the definition states. Is there any way we could change the definition with one that will include the location information and not only linked to postal services?

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