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Development Chat Logs #35

Open balupton opened 10 years ago

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[25/02/2014 9:12:29 am] Yashar Rassoulli: Yashar Rassoulli added Jacques Ramphal, Peter Last to this conversation [25/02/2014 9:12:45 am] Yashar Rassoulli: Yashar Rassoulli set topic to “#InterConnect ViD IxD” [25/02/2014 9:12:51 am] Yashar Rassoulli: https://github.com/bevry/interconnect [25/02/2014 9:22:18 am] peter_last: peterlast [25/02/2014 9:22:28 am] peter_last: github id ^ [25/02/2014 9:28:25 am] Peter Last: Have you seen BlueJeans before? [25/02/2014 9:49:44 am] Yashar Rassoulli: i setup our meeting invite for today to be weekly on mondays at the same time [26/02/2014 2:05:43 am] Benjamin Lupton: Cool [26/02/2014 2:06:05 am] Benjamin Lupton: So for the design, I've included the mockup I did up here: https://github.com/bevry/interconnect/issues/17 [26/02/2014 2:07:06 am] Benjamin Lupton: Other than that, I'd suggest Peter and Jacques just read through the github issues, and as well, post any comments for that they feel appropriate [26/02/2014 2:07:17 am] Peter Last: Will do [26/02/2014 2:08:08 am] Peter Last: I'm just searching through other products in the space to see what's on offer already, and whether there's consistency in their approach or gaps we might be able to target [26/02/2014 2:08:40 am] Benjamin Lupton: But what we need by the jQuery Toronto talk is: Chat (just starting) Video Calling (already going) Documentation for Web Components

And nice to haves: Profiles Landing Page IRC Connection [26/02/2014 2:09:59 am] Benjamin Lupton: cool, for that we have this issue — https://github.com/bevry/interconnect/issues/14 — if you could post your finding there that would be great! [26/02/2014 2:45:15 am] Jacques Ramphal: hey all. in the thread now. [26/02/2014 2:45:42 am] Jacques Ramphal: will do. ill sync with peters research and start contributing. will open up github and send over contact info. [26/02/2014 2:50:10 am] Jacques Ramphal: oh you already have it awesome. will sync up on that info [4/03/2014 9:04:43 am] Jacques Ramphal sent a file to this group: MP-Interconnect_Wireframe-v1.2-JR-PL.pdf [4/03/2014 9:06:21 am] Jacques Ramphal: initial wireframe attached above. [4/03/2014 9:20:08 am] Benjamin Lupton: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5hgkpx4c6dv2pl/4b79.png [4/03/2014 9:23:22 am] Benjamin Lupton: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzfrt6v2zn1yoev/3etb.png [4/03/2014 9:31:51 am] Benjamin Lupton: Cool, I've sent an invite for the folder dustin and had setup for WebRTC research as well: https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B6MqiLy7C3PhNE9ha1FYVjU1d2c [4/03/2014 9:33:24 am] Benjamin Lupton: For an evaluation of this presence always there, always on top, Facebook Chat Heads comes to mind [4/03/2014 9:34:19 am] Benjamin Lupton: http://raffael.me/chatheads/ [11/03/2014 8:01:04 am] Jacques Ramphal sent a file to this group: MP-Interconnect-JR.jpg [11/03/2014 8:01:18 am] Jacques Ramphal: Prelim high fidelity trials attached above. [11/03/2014 8:02:23 am] Jacques Ramphal: are you guys on a call right now? [18/03/2014 3:12:53 am] Benjamin Lupton: Hi Jacques :) [18/03/2014 3:12:58 am] Benjamin Lupton: Any update this week? [18/03/2014 3:13:50 am] Jacques Ramphal: Hey man. yes sorry I'm prepping for our call at 5 [18/03/2014 3:14:02 am] Jacques Ramphal: if you'd like tho i can cal u before that [18/03/2014 3:14:15 am] Jacques Ramphal: was prepped for last weeks call but didn't know yashar wouldn't be around. [18/03/2014 3:14:44 am] Benjamin Lupton: can't call earlier than the planned time, as everyone is sleeping [18/03/2014 3:14:50 am] Benjamin Lupton: but happy to text chat and take a look [18/03/2014 3:15:44 am] Jacques Ramphal: ok awesome. lemme send over my most recent comp [18/03/2014 3:15:47 am] Jacques Ramphal: uno momentop [18/03/2014 3:16:34 am] Jacques Ramphal sent a file to this group: MP-Interconnect-JR-v2.jpg [18/03/2014 3:19:18 am] Jacques Ramphal: I took a modular approach with the elements with responsiveness in mind. Lean and minimal, similar to squiggle but i think it will end up being more polished. I've left the comp brand-less. did not know whether you had any branding done already. [18/03/2014 3:20:04 am] Jacques Ramphal: I have set up time with Erik this week to review the interface. I still have refining to do, there was some experimentation happening so some comps may differ slightly. [18/03/2014 3:22:16 am] Benjamin Lupton: hrmm, for some reason the file isn't sending, can you put it in the google drive folder? [18/03/2014 3:23:53 am] Benjamin Lupton: https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B6MqiLy7C3PhNE9ha1FYVjU1d2c [18/03/2014 3:26:27 am] Jacques Ramphal: yes for sure [18/03/2014 3:29:47 am] Jacques Ramphal: https://drive.google.com/a/myplanetdigital.com/file/d/0B2pQPc_dJpq6ekNFazZTcEZ6NDg/edit?usp=sharing [18/03/2014 3:32:21 am] Benjamin Lupton: I like the pop out chat, I never would have though of that, real nifty [18/03/2014 3:33:39 am] Jacques Ramphal: awesome, yeh little things like that will set the ui apart. as peter said, less is more and I think if we implement that attitude throughout, it'll really work well. [18/03/2014 3:33:49 am] Benjamin Lupton: :) [18/03/2014 3:33:58 am] Benjamin Lupton: Where would you like to explore now? [18/03/2014 3:35:32 am] Jacques Ramphal: i was curious on your thoughts around vertical vs horizontal [18/03/2014 3:35:53 am] Jacques Ramphal: is there a preference towards either, and if so are we restricted to doing just one [18/03/2014 3:36:26 am] Jacques Ramphal: personally i see advantages to both, simply because ppl work differently [18/03/2014 3:36:35 am] Benjamin Lupton: Either could work [18/03/2014 3:36:51 am] Benjamin Lupton: Vertical bar makes the most sense for getting out the wayh [18/03/2014 3:37:04 am] Benjamin Lupton: Horizontal makes the most sense for a menu bar tooltip [18/03/2014 3:37:20 am] Benjamin Lupton: I really like text chat being below the face, rather then next to it [18/03/2014 3:37:24 am] Benjamin Lupton: it's like the person's body [18/03/2014 3:37:39 am] Benjamin Lupton: I wonder if we can experiment with that some more [18/03/2014 3:37:48 am] Benjamin Lupton: add files, and voice calls [18/03/2014 3:37:56 am] Jacques Ramphal: yes for sure. i agree with that [18/03/2014 3:38:08 am] Jacques Ramphal: yes i can work on that and bring updates to our 5 oclock [18/03/2014 3:38:16 am] Benjamin Lupton: sweet [18/03/2014 3:38:40 am] Jacques Ramphal: cool man. ill focus on chat functions and in call [18/03/2014 3:38:50 am] Benjamin Lupton: Perhaps a bit isolated from my end, but have you seen any of my hidden away updates I posted here: I think the vertical bar makes a lot of sense [18/03/2014 3:38:52 am] Benjamin Lupton: whoops [18/03/2014 3:38:57 am] Benjamin Lupton: https://github.com/bevry/interconnect/issues/14#issuecomment-37151388 [18/03/2014 3:39:00 am] Benjamin Lupton: ;) [18/03/2014 3:39:40 am] Benjamin Lupton: I've been spending the last 2 weeks trying to think, what is it that would make interconnect be the next twitter [18/03/2014 3:39:57 am] Benjamin Lupton: been posting my thoughts there [18/03/2014 3:40:18 am] Jacques Ramphal: good stuff. ill dive into those notes. i got a lot of good insight last time i read through [18/03/2014 3:42:22 am] Benjamin Lupton: some things I'm toying with are:

  1. OSX Full Screen App, that has EVERYONE listed, you then filter people by circle, tags/communities, or name, and status
  2. Video/Voice messaging instead of text chat
  3. Conversation view, profile view
  4. Gravatar (voice-only) display for people on low-bandwidth
  5. Group conversation dynamics
  6. Notifications

[18/03/2014 3:42:58 am] Benjamin Lupton: This is based off the notion of twitter is a global conversation, however... in reality, it is just social news [18/03/2014 3:43:11 am] Benjamin Lupton: 5% if not less of it, is actually social connection [18/03/2014 3:43:27 am] Benjamin Lupton: most of it is just consuming news (news in terms of headlines, as well as social updates) [18/03/2014 3:43:35 am] Benjamin Lupton: so it isn't really about a global conversation at all [18/03/2014 3:43:42 am] Benjamin Lupton: it just provides the illusion that it is [18/03/2014 3:47:42 am] Jacques Ramphal: ah good points. most RTC's seem to take preference to one gradient of communication over the others.. [18/03/2014 3:48:58 am] Jacques Ramphal: the twitter comparison is interesting tho. would have never thought of that. its a cool approach to vid/voice chat. ill do my best to reflect that in my updates. [18/03/2014 3:49:36 am] Benjamin Lupton: sweet! [18/03/2014 3:51:27 am] Benjamin Lupton: Yeah, as to me, interconnect fills a social void, in the same way Facebook and twitter have. I'd say InterConnect competes with them more directly than anything else — or at least I'd like it to be that way. Sqwiggle has a very limited markshare (closed teams), and originally interconnect did as well (open teams). But I'd like to make it so InterConnect does become the next big thing. The real next big thing. Something which market is every single person in the world. [18/03/2014 3:55:41 am] Benjamin Lupton: just posted some ideas on twitter/text-chat here: https://github.com/bevry/interconnect/issues/14#issuecomment-37839380 [18/03/2014 3:55:46 am] Jacques Ramphal: amazing, i have a good understanding of your vision now. I see how sqwiggle is more of a point of departure rather than direct competition. you're trying to elevate the RTC above mundane social media and make it something real and different. less corporate and closed in and more towards what Facebook and twitter have done with it. [18/03/2014 3:56:07 am] Jacques Ramphal: cool ill read through those aswell. I'm stepping out for lunch but will be back online shortly working on that. [18/03/2014 3:56:26 am] Benjamin Lupton: :) I'm glad [18/03/2014 3:56:29 am] Benjamin Lupton: Enjoy your lunch [18/03/2014 3:56:40 am] Jacques Ramphal: ;) brb [18/03/2014 3:59:32 am] Benjamin Lupton: Streamatars is part of this value shift idea: https://github.com/bevry/interconnect/issues/32 [18/03/2014 4:15:19 am] Benjamin Lupton: For the group messaging dynamic I'm thinking:

  1. If you are not in a call, and you mouse over someone not in a call, it has a button "Start a call", and a button "Leave a video mail"
  2. If you are not in a call, and you mouse over someone in a call, it has a button "Ask if I can join the call”, and a button "Leave a video mail"
  3. If you are in a call, and you mouse over someone not in a call, it has a button "Add to this call", that will add them right away, and a button "Leave a video mail"
  4. If you are in a call, and you mouse over someone not in a call, but are busy, it has a button "Leave a video mail"

[18/03/2014 4:18:00 am] Benjamin Lupton: So the dynamic in play here, is if someone is busy then you leave them a video mail. If they are free, then instant conversation. If you are in a call, you can invite non-busy people. If you are not in a call, you can start a call, and ask to join a call. [18/03/2014 4:19:16 am] Benjamin Lupton: Benjamin Lupton added Dustin to this conversation [18/03/2014 4:19:23 am] Benjamin Lupton: Added Dustin for scaling + backend discussions [18/03/2014 4:20:02 am] Dustin: I won't have time to chat about this right now, but I can review this a little later [18/03/2014 4:20:05 am] Dustin: Geordie and I are at the conference [18/03/2014 4:20:22 am] Jacques Ramphal: ok ill try and represent all those states in my updates. [18/03/2014 4:20:41 am] Benjamin Lupton: Jacques - Great thanks [18/03/2014 4:20:44 am] Benjamin Lupton: Dustin - no worries [18/03/2014 5:29:14 am] Benjamin Lupton: We may actually need to keep text chat to some degree, if only for the ability to share links with each other [18/03/2014 5:32:39 am] Benjamin Lupton: I really like the top bar and side bar of http://dribbble.com/shots/1394613-One-Light/attachments/201999 Maybe we can use the sidebar tab pane idea for the "beneath text chat" section? So you can switch between [text chat, video mails, and user profile] [18/03/2014 5:33:48 am] Benjamin Lupton: And have a sidebar for the app that has [recent conversations, received video mails, my profile] [18/03/2014 5:34:22 am] Jacques Ramphal: cool idea. will experiment with sidebars on chat ;) [18/03/2014 5:34:39 am] Benjamin Lupton: If we do the streamatar idea, the "Uploading 1 of 4 items" can be "Streaming to 4 people" [18/03/2014 5:35:16 am] Benjamin Lupton: as, the sidebar conversations section covers our ability for group text chats [18/03/2014 5:35:26 am] Benjamin Lupton: as well as watching recorded group chats [18/03/2014 5:35:54 am] Benjamin Lupton: as that would be really difficult to pull off via the drop below text chat for group chats I'd imagine [18/03/2014 5:37:05 am] Benjamin Lupton: We could also make the sidebar tabs/buttons, as well as the top bar, and the menu/title bar frame, all the same [18/03/2014 5:38:09 am] Benjamin Lupton: if that works for you — just that we don't have to be bound by the OSX window frame, we can always make our own if you feel that would work better :) [18/03/2014 6:15:49 am] Jacques Ramphal: agh thats a good point. I'm looking to you for advise on that. don't quite know what the restrictions are wight he osx bars. i terms of design, i think we could greatly benefit from custom bars etc,. i will explore that during the week perhaps [18/03/2014 7:11:43 am] Jacques Ramphal sent a file to this group: MP-Interconnect-JR-v3.jpg [18/03/2014 7:12:08 am] Jacques Ramphal: need to put some more thought into the icons. but starting to explore the points above [18/03/2014 7:55:13 am] Yashar Rassoulli: Jacques, come down to 215 to get on the call [18/03/2014 7:55:30 am] Yashar Rassoulli: Yashar Rassoulli has ejected Peter Last from this conversation [18/03/2014 7:57:28 am] Yashar Rassoulli: Ben, join the google hangout when you're ready please [18/03/2014 7:58:48 am] Jacques Ramphal: Comig now! [18/03/2014 8:01:47 am] Yashar Rassoulli: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/myplanetdigital.com/interconnect [18/03/2014 8:54:46 am] Benjamin Lupton: Uhhh. 9am is in 6 minutes... [18/03/2014 8:57:25 am] Benjamin Lupton: Hrmm. One of us must have gained or lost DST. We need to update the calendar time. [18/03/2014 8:57:52 am] Benjamin Lupton: That's unfortunate! [18/03/2014 9:09:08 am] Benjamin Lupton: Okay, Canada gained DST on 9th of March [18/03/2014 9:09:17 am] Benjamin Lupton: Yashar, seems like you updated the calendar invite this morning? [18/03/2014 9:09:33 am] Benjamin Lupton: The email isn't that clear about what has changed. [18/03/2014 10:13:05 am] Benjamin Lupton: Jacques, could you upload the latest mockup to google drive please? Cheers! [18/03/2014 10:14:54 am] Jacques Ramphal: my google drive has been syncing allay. Ill post it for now. but ill be posting in the github aswell [18/03/2014 10:15:45 am] Jacques Ramphal sent a file to this group: MP-Interconnect-JR-v2.jpg [18/03/2014 10:19:10 am] Benjamin Lupton: Yashar, I've added the number you used to call my mobile to my iPhone favourites so you can wake me up when my do not disturb mode is on [18/03/2014 10:21:21 am] Benjamin Lupton: Sweet, that's a different filename than you sent before? v3 vs v2 [18/03/2014 11:56:17 am] Jacques Ramphal: yeh i deleted a copy and renamed. same file [19/03/2014 12:18:19 am] Benjamin Lupton: Hey Jacques, is the latest mockup in google drive? [19/03/2014 12:42:37 am] Benjamin Lupton: yep it is [19/03/2014 12:42:38 am] Benjamin Lupton: sweet [19/03/2014 12:44:01 am] Jacques Ramphal: Yes but its syncing and taking forever. I ended up having two interconnect folders and tried to consolidate them but now it seems to not be syncing again. could you do me a favor and reshare the proper folder so that I can start uploading properly again? sorry about that drive is a pain [19/03/2014 12:44:39 am] Jacques Ramphal: Lol voice to text is a joke [19/03/2014 12:44:47 am] Benjamin Lupton: Sharmie? [19/03/2014 12:46:26 am] Jacques Ramphal: Lol meant to say Share [19/03/2014 12:47:30 am] Benjamin Lupton: will do, do you want me to redo the subfolders [19/03/2014 12:47:33 am] Jacques Ramphal: You got the file? [19/03/2014 12:47:43 am] Benjamin Lupton: yeah [19/03/2014 12:49:41 am] Jacques Ramphal: Sure if there's a format you prefer :) [19/03/2014 12:52:04 am] Benjamin Lupton: https://drive.google.com/?authuser=1#folders/0B6MqiLy7C3PhNE9ha1FYVjU1d2c [19/03/2014 1:05:15 am] Benjamin Lupton: okay no more typing for me over the next few days, my non cut hand got nerve damage via the cannula and its playing up - will call hand specialist tomorrow [19/03/2014 1:05:40 am] Benjamin Lupton: we could do voice calls at your 5pm each day [19/03/2014 1:06:45 am] Jacques Ramphal: oh yes please don't overwork that finger haha i saw the photos! [19/03/2014 1:56:10 am] Benjamin Lupton: http://youtu.be/Hr2PvvACfzw?t=7h29m09s the 2 minutes here up until the music adds some background on what interconnect can be the platform for [19/03/2014 1:58:23 am] Benjamin Lupton: ... hrmmm... out of context that could be pretty whacked out [19/03/2014 2:01:52 am] Jacques Ramphal: haha ill give it a good watch and see if i can find the connection [19/03/2014 5:01:34 am] Benjamin Lupton: http://youtu.be/c2JTu22qxms 30 mins in there is interconnect as well [19/03/2014 5:01:51 am] Benjamin Lupton: 13 mins* [19/03/2014 5:04:04 am] Benjamin Lupton: One feature we need, is the ability to invite people via their email, which then adds them to the face wall with their gravatar, and allows you to send video mails to them [19/03/2014 5:05:40 am] Benjamin Lupton: So for instance, if I want to video mail someone, in the topbar I click add person, add their email, click okay, they are added to the face wall, i hover over them and click send video mail, they get an email with a link for them to watch the video mail [19/03/2014 5:06:19 am] Benjamin Lupton: This would allow interconnect a fluid growth ability, as well as graceful up gradation for email [19/03/2014 5:07:05 am] Benjamin Lupton: I can send video mails to people, without them needing to sign up first — something every other platform doesn't let you do, email, Skype, Twitter, etc [19/03/2014 11:47:54 pm] Benjamin Lupton: Do you think we can kill text chat? It's a difficult problem that largely detracts resources from the most important advantage of our app — rich synchronous (calls) and asynchronous (video mails) communication [19/03/2014 11:49:27 pm] Benjamin Lupton: I'm afraid adding chat as a main feature will cause people's behavioural habits to revert to it for the illusion of a comfort zone... Rather than progressing to the next level of inter personal communication [19/03/2014 11:50:55 pm] Benjamin Lupton: So I guess the next step is now viewing archived calls, video mails, and profiles. Discoverability of people in the room and filtering [19/03/2014 11:52:09 pm] Benjamin Lupton: As if I join and now I see a face wall of 1000 peoples streams. Who would I be interested in? Who shall I talk to? Who are they? Are the most important questions we need to answer quickly [19/03/2014 11:54:37 pm] Benjamin Lupton: I'm thinking above the call and video mail buttons, we show their name and tagline, with a magnifying glass. When clicked we enter a modal slideshow view with more info about them, a complete profile. They can then use the keyboard arrow keys and visual left right arrows to navigate the people [19/03/2014 11:55:19 pm] Benjamin Lupton: This modal view and hover view is what we can apply to streamatars as well [19/03/2014 11:57:54 pm] Benjamin Lupton: Income call dynamics also need to be figured out — I'm thinking people you are in a call with are first, then everyone else is sorted by who you talked to most recently [19/03/2014 11:58:12 pm] Benjamin Lupton: And you can reorder them by dragging them [19/03/2014 11:59:54 pm] Benjamin Lupton: No circles or segregationist of people though, having EVERYONE on the one screen is very important for our core value shift. We need people to understand, to come around, to embrace the notion that we are all one company, one entity, one unit creating together. [20/03/2014 12:00:52 am] Benjamin Lupton: Segregation abilities would be a comfort zone scapegoat countering our initiative [20/03/2014 12:02:26 am] Benjamin Lupton: For text chat, I think the only time it would ever be permissible is when we are in an existing call. [20/03/2014 12:03:01 am] Benjamin Lupton: Although... Or once you've had a call with someone... [20/03/2014 12:03:59 am] Benjamin Lupton: As the profile modal could change the sidebar on the right to show your timeline with them [20/03/2014 12:05:31 am] Benjamin Lupton: In this sense, the video mail, file transfers, chat, and call recordings, could all be unified into one view, your stream with them [20/03/2014 12:07:31 am] Benjamin Lupton: So the sidebar is a history account of all the conversations you've had, with individuals or groups (not custom topics), which persist (no deletions), their public and maybe private in the way google wave did "off the record", "on the record" [20/03/2014 12:07:50 am] Benjamin Lupton: And can only be initialised by a call [20/03/2014 12:08:02 am] Benjamin Lupton: Like real life [20/03/2014 12:09:59 am] Benjamin Lupton: So on the face wall view, the sidebar contains a thread listing of all your previous conversations, with the name of the threads being the names/avatars of the people in them [20/03/2014 12:10:33 am] Benjamin Lupton: Click the thread, sidebar shows details of the thread, and a text send ability [20/03/2014 12:11:02 am] Benjamin Lupton: But the only way to create new conversations is to call someone, you can't do it from the sidebar [20/03/2014 12:11:45 am] Benjamin Lupton: When you click a person's profile button, and their profile modal opens, the sidebar shows your conversation history with them [20/03/2014 12:12:01 am] Benjamin Lupton: One stream per conversation [20/03/2014 1:31:21 am] Benjamin Lupton: Of course, this is all just up in the air brainstorming. Keen to hear you're feedback [20/03/2014 1:32:48 am] Dustin: My two cents... text is never going away as an important form of async communication. See: the popularity of text messages over actual voice calls on cellphones [20/03/2014 1:34:31 am] Benjamin Lupton: This is true, and I ponder on why it is like that? [20/03/2014 1:34:45 am] Jacques Ramphal: ah i agree. text chat is a safety blanket. a greater emphasis on voice and vid communication would definitely strengthen the engagement between users. but i also agree with dustin when it comes to the importance of text as an option. for those moments when you just can't fully engage but need to communicate a message. i think with a focus on video and voice, the experience will feel much more genuine but having the option for text when you need it will only make that engagement more satisfying. [20/03/2014 1:35:12 am] Benjamin Lupton: Could it be simply video mails aren't an option,'you either call or text, never the option to leave a video or voice mail with phones. [20/03/2014 1:37:45 am] Dustin: Well think about it like this too - I'm typically surrounded by other people, working in public areas, at the airport, etc. - I don't necessarily want to speak out loud if I don't have to. Haha. [20/03/2014 1:38:58 am] Benjamin Lupton: Hehe, that's Helens rationale too. For me, I always go video mails or voice call. Never text unless last resort. For her it's the opposite. [20/03/2014 1:39:43 am] Benjamin Lupton: Even experiencing it right now, as voice isn't an option as everyone is sleeping. I guess the question is, is text a problem area for interconnect? Does it interfere, conflict with the core mission, or help it? If so, how does the sea saw swing? [20/03/2014 1:40:20 am] Benjamin Lupton: As there is always SMS and text chat services already, it's not like its a necessity to enter. [20/03/2014 1:40:59 am] Benjamin Lupton: So I wonder then, would providing text after a call be sufficient, or do people need the option before a call to? [20/03/2014 1:41:10 am] Jacques Ramphal: as peter refers to it, its a gradient of communication. i believe having the option to do either will allow for greater satisfaction. maybe I'm in a meeting and can't leave a voice message. maybe I'm on the move and can't leave a text. i often find myself texting and messaging while moving around the office. [20/03/2014 1:41:29 am] Benjamin Lupton: As before a call risks turning interconnect into what's app with streamatars [20/03/2014 1:44:32 am] Benjamin Lupton: But this could all be my incompetency in being able to figure out another way to incentivise video calls and mails over text chat [20/03/2014 1:48:02 am] Benjamin Lupton: As, let's look at how real life does it. If I need to talk to someone in the next room, and I'm in a meeting, I just wait for the meeting to be over and then say hi or ping their mobile or whatever. [20/03/2014 1:48:30 am] Benjamin Lupton: As, anything else would be detracting from my current task at hand. [20/03/2014 1:49:26 am] Jacques Ramphal: hmm on that same note i often make notes when discussing work with peers. maybe the ability to add notes to a call makes the text aspect more geared towards the conversation. like convo highlights. takeaways. unless every call is recorded which i think they may be? [20/03/2014 1:49:47 am] Benjamin Lupton: every call will be recorded [20/03/2014 1:50:00 am] Benjamin Lupton: with download links added to the conversation stream [20/03/2014 1:50:04 am] Jacques Ramphal: ok well then that reduces the need for takeaway notes. [20/03/2014 1:50:23 am] Benjamin Lupton: Yeah, the only time, in real life, I ever see myself using text [20/03/2014 1:50:53 am] Benjamin Lupton: is when I take over the person's keyboard to enter a URL — however, 99% of the time, I just tell them the URL [20/03/2014 1:51:05 am] Benjamin Lupton: or when I am sketching notes that I then hand to the person after the meeting — but that is more a image, rather than text [20/03/2014 1:52:36 am] Jacques Ramphal: right, that makes more sense. now that I'm thinking of all the times I've received or sent texts to someone in the same room, i see how that is getting in the way. [20/03/2014 1:54:36 am] Benjamin Lupton: cool [20/03/2014 1:55:06 am] Benjamin Lupton: for the profile modal and sidebar idea [20/03/2014 1:55:07 am] Benjamin Lupton: http://dribbble.com/shots/1422850-Team-Messages?list=show&tag=profile [20/03/2014 1:55:20 am] Benjamin Lupton: seems real nifty [20/03/2014 1:58:29 am] Benjamin Lupton: with the left being the face wall, and clicking opens up the blue/green overlay, with the conversation in the right sidebar [20/03/2014 2:03:25 am] Benjamin Lupton: Or at least that's the best my head can come up with. [20/03/2014 2:07:13 am] Benjamin Lupton: Yeah. For a little bit of background, I listened to a presentation by the Eventbrite founders earlier this week, and the key takeaway from it was that they understand their why from day 1, and that let them make easy decisions on the what to focus on. The barrier to entry for tech startups is very small, but the barrier to doing it great is very high. And that doing it great is creating and maintaing a good culture in the company and actively working to ensure that culture is maintainer and grows accordingly. Too much growth, too soon, the culture can get lost and it is very hard to recover. [20/03/2014 2:08:38 am] Benjamin Lupton: So sorry if I may be coming across as a bit audacious in this process, just that not being able to actually implement anything due to my health the past 2 weeks, has let me focus a lot on the why of interconnect, which is revealing some challenging ideas of what. [20/03/2014 2:09:09 am] Benjamin Lupton: And wanting to make sure the decisions we’re making around the why and what is communicated well, between all of us, rather than just going straight for the hows. [20/03/2014 2:10:09 am] Benjamin Lupton: As launching interconnect would be like setting up a global company, important to get the culture right from day 1. [20/03/2014 2:11:03 am] Benjamin Lupton: But, if you ever think I'm not doing the best job at communicating, or conveying ideas, please let me know. [20/03/2014 2:13:49 am] Benjamin Lupton: For the text aspect for now, as everyone is sleeping I can't text. But when I think about real life, and if I were able to see you in person tomorrow morning. I wouldn't be skyping your offline Skype chat with my alpha quality ideas, I'd just wait until a time I can voice, send a video a mail, and have a proper call or arrange a time to do a proper call [20/03/2014 2:16:00 am] Benjamin Lupton: As this text chat, kind of illustrates a problem with text. In terms of, most people cannot write well, most of the world is illiterate, we've video chatted since life itself, and text chatted only very very recently. Our brains are wired for video conversations, not text chats, hence the amount of miscommunication for text chat, and subtle intentions that go missing, which increases the need for re-clarifications and disclaimers in text. [20/03/2014 2:16:17 am] Benjamin Lupton: For instance, I would never ever, text chat with Helen, ever. [20/03/2014 2:16:23 am] Benjamin Lupton: even if she is sleeping. [20/03/2014 2:16:28 am] Benjamin Lupton: I'd always wait until we can video chat. [20/03/2014 2:17:12 am] Benjamin Lupton: And that I guess is what Interconnect is about. Bringing the entire world, as close, as my own family. [20/03/2014 2:17:33 am] Benjamin Lupton: Just one big company, one big family. [20/03/2014 2:18:58 am] Benjamin Lupton: However, I think the mistake I'm making here, is thinking this is hit or miss. We can always add text chat in, if it really doesn't work without it. [20/03/2014 2:19:35 am] Benjamin Lupton: Sorry for the long rant!