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Bug: Corrections, formatting, suggestions for Guidelines. #2511

Closed SirWumpus closed 3 months ago

SirWumpus commented 3 months ago

Is there an existing issue for this?

Describe the problem

Formatting

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated
* Development Environment (IDE)

Relevant images, screenshots or other files

No response

What you expect

I think you meant:

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated Development Environment (IDE)

Environment

- OS:
- Device:
- Browser:

Relevant links

No response

Anything else?

Have I mentioned how I hate templates, preferring a more open free form report. (Good) developers know what back ground (front not with standing) is needed for a suitable report.

lcn2 commented 3 months ago

Fixed in commit f8a2c9defce7edcc790d2b8072e9c4cbd46d0842

Thank you @SirWumpus for your bug report. We appreciate your time and attention to the guidelines.

Suggestion / Request

Continue to look at the next/rules.html and next/guidelines.html. Your remarks in the past have been very much appreciated and will contribute to a better IOCCC28.

p.s.

Have I mentioned how I hate templates, preferring a more open free form report. (Good) developers know what back ground (front not with standing) is needed for a suitable report.

We offer two++ suggestions in your case:

0) edit the resulting template as needed b) continue to have fun with the "Anything else?" section .. we don't mind II) just open a pull request and put your good development experience into the pull request remarks

SirWumpus commented 3 months ago

Not to worry. I continue picking things apart.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

I pulled this change on the server a bit ago and will start doing a technical review as you asked me to do, soon, btw.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Rules corrected in many ways, mostly technical.

Guidelines next .. but not until later today - or tomorrow.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

p.s.

Have I mentioned how I hate templates, preferring a more open free form report. (Good) developers know what back ground (front not with standing) is needed for a suitable report.

We offer two++ suggestions in your case:

  1. edit the resulting template as needed b) continue to have fun with the "Anything else?" section .. we don't mind II) just open a pull request and put your good development experience into the pull request remarks

Make a third suggestion:

  1. Templates make it easier to sort through and since we do give the 'anything else' possibility if you really wanted to you could put everything there .. though that does seem silly to me and kind of defeats the purpose.

BTW: did you ever think about how they say that C++'s name is that it's better than C but how it's hardly true? I am sure you have but here's something they did not think of: the value of C++ is actually C but as a side effect C is increased by 1: thus it's definitely not better! Actually a better name would have been --C but I won't get into that :-)

.. obviously the reason I bring that up is the ++ above.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Is there an existing issue for this?

  • [x] I have searched for existing issues and did not find anything like it

Describe the problem

Formatting

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated
* Development Environment (IDE)

Relevant images, screenshots or other files

No response

What you expect

I think you meant:

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated Development Environment (IDE)

I think what is REALLY meant is:

(.. or depending on what comes before it that MANDATES)

:-)

... which I will fix it when I work on it next.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Is there an existing issue for this?

  • [x] I have searched for existing issues and did not find anything like it

Describe the problem

Formatting

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated
* Development Environment (IDE)

Relevant images, screenshots or other files

No response

What you expect

I think you meant:

* that mandate the exclusive the use of an specific Integrated Development Environment (IDE)

I think what is REALLY meant is:

  • that mandate the exclusive use of a specific Integrated Development Environment (IDE)

(.. or depending on what comes before it that MANDATES)

:-)

... which I will fix it when I work on it next.

Okay fixed .. now back later today .. or tomorrow.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Actually I see a slight improvement is in order in the template too, grammar wise. Well I can worry about that later.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Okay I fixed the templates too. As commit https://github.com/ioccc-src/temp-test-ioccc/pull/2516/commits/6c92038be01146a38d69db1bff0e3612402aefde says, quite ironically:

Minor grammar improvement in issue templates

.. though this certainly can be improved some still, the entire wording
of the sentence. That will be considered later.

Thank you to @SirWumpus for indirectly making me aware of this: I know
he hates templates so I feel like I should thank him specially :-)

I hope you appreciate that .. it's all in good fun of course! Now I really am going afk! I have to make this change in the other repo though ... will do that when back.

UPDATE 0

.. or now.

SirWumpus commented 3 months ago

... they say that C++'s name is that it's better than C ...

At my first place of work (after UNI) with MKS, some of the developers would say C++ is the Cobol of the 1990's.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

... they say that C++'s name is that it's better than C ...

At my first place of work (after UNI) with MKS, some of the developers would say C++ is the Cobol of the 1990's.

I'm sure there are a lot of jokes about C++. That one I thought of years ago but the one you share is a good one too.

In the man pages of the mkiocccentry repo we have in comments:

.\" Humour impairment is not virtue nor is it a vice, it's just plain
.\" wrong: almost as wrong as JSON spec mis-features and C++ obfuscation! :-)
.\"

There's another fun thing to discover in them and at least one has something else fun, all in comments.

xexyl commented 3 months ago

Also there's a funny poem/verse about another programming language of old. I can't remember which one. I think it's in flex and bison 2nd edition but I might be wrong. It's been a while since I've read it.

I think also someone said something like: In many ways, Java is C--. I would disagree with that. It's certainly far from my favourite language but one thing is nice - it's graphics API. There are plenty of things I don't like about it but I'm not an expert it in it either. I much prefer it to C++ though (although I've written entire applications in C++ .. I just found that I started to do what I call C-ify it - make things more like C).