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Moment of autocracy clarification #30

Open rigelrozanski opened 5 years ago

rigelrozanski commented 5 years ago

@heyitsmerebecca REF #3

Moment of autocracy - “In the absence of a viable means of arriving at consensus, mandating the use of consensus driven processes as described in this repository should be viewed as legitimate, but only for that particular moment.” What exactly is “in the absence of viable means”? Who gets to decide that a situation qualifies for “in the absence of a viable means”? Also, what is “in that particular moment”? How “long” does that moment stretch, is the moment of autocracy for the entirety of the decision?

rigelrozanski commented 5 years ago

What exactly is “in the absence of viable means”? Who gets to decide that a situation qualifies for “in the absence of a viable means”

[AC - clarify "viable means of arriving at consensus"] Ultimately a public forum such as this repo (once the permission sets of administrating this repo are sufficiently decentralized) should outline high principles of "viable" or "non-viable" consensus forums, whereby it would be up to the members of an organization to interpret/fulfill it.

Consensus is more than a majority vote, it's a full agreement i.e. an unanimous agreement or 100% voting in the same direction. One example of a "means" would be people sitting in the same room talking about an issue with some form of time constraint. Depending on the contentiousness of the issue, the number of strong perspectives in the room, and the time constraints, this may or may not be viable. I'd guess that for the issue of modifying an the fundamentals of an organizational structure where all participants have an equal vested interest - a single day with more than 10 people is likely not a viable means of arriving at consensus.

What is “in that particular moment”? How “long” does that moment stretch, is the moment of autocracy for the entirety of the decision?

"The moment" is only referring to that instant in time which the decision is considered to be made for an organization to switch to a system considered to be legitimate by the superset organization's ("the world's") perspective on legitimacy [which is not this repo yet because we're only a couple chums discussing philosophy].