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mpc2000xl emulator static library
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VMPC2000XL crashes Reason 13 #250

Open soundstruction opened 4 hours ago

soundstruction commented 4 hours ago

Hi

I am a loyal Reason user - I love that particular DAW. I am currently using Reason 13.

I recently obtained a copy of your product - VMPC2000XL. It installed just fine on my PC - manufactured by ASUSTEK Computer Inc.

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8565U CPU @ 1.80GHz 1.99 GHz 16GB of RAM

Edition Windows 10 Home Version 22H2 Installed on ‎4/‎29/‎2021 OS build 19045.5011 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19060.1000.0

So - your plugin loads into Reason just fine - it appears within the program just like any other VST3 plugin. In fact - in Reason's Plugin Manager page - VMPC2000XL shows up as "Enabled." It doesn't crash the program on boot up.

However - every single time I try to drag it into the Reason Rack to use it - it crashes the whole program. Reason disappears out of RAM.

Every single time.

However - I have been able to get your standalone version to work on my computer just fine.

Have you done much work testing your product with Reason? Reason 13??

I'd love to know if I am doing something wrong. Is there something else I need to install to get your Product to work in Reason?

Sincerely,

Mitch

izzyreal commented 2 hours ago

Hi @soundstruction / Mitch,

Thanks for the detailed report. I can't recall trying VMPC2000XL in Reason.

Here's an overview of some of the DAWs/hosts I've tried, and the results: https://github.com/izzyreal/vmpc-juce/blob/master/plugin-compatibility-matrix.md

Propellerheads doesn't make it simple for developers to see if a plugin works well in Reason. In fact, they don't make it simple for anyone to try their product.

Ableton Live, FL Studio, Bitwig Studio, and Reaper -- of all these products a trial can be downloaded by just going to their website. You don't have to sign up. I just tried signing up for Propellerheads with a temporary email address, hoping to be able to download a trial version of Reason, but I get a payment wall:

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So, besides an email address, Propellerheads wants people to hand over their creditcard or PayPal info. On top of that, a minimum payment of $1,- is needed. And the user is apparently also responsible for cancelling their paid trial, if they don't want to continue using Reason.

To say I don't like their approach, would be an understatement.

If someone can provide a legal version of Reason so I can debug, I might look into the issue. Until then, I can only recommend to use a different DAW/host.

Some users run VMPC2000XL standalone, and wire things up with virtual audio and MIDI cables. See for example https://vb-audio.com/ and https://vac.muzychenko.net/en/ for audio, and https://www.sionsoft.com/hubi.html for MIDI.