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Windows native 7.1 to Jack #686

Open marijncin opened 3 years ago

marijncin commented 3 years ago

Hi, Not an issue here, just a question.

Windows 10

I am using VB Hifi cable asiobridge to send my windows native audio to Jack. I would like to do this for more then two channels. VB cable won't let me. Does anybody know of a good way to port windows native apps. (like say for example a 5.1 videogame) to jack?

Greeting, Marijn

falkTX commented 3 years ago

the best way to port applications is to actually port them. that is, add jack support. the API is quite simple all things considered.

marijncin commented 3 years ago

@falkTX Thanks, Yes I understand. For applications I am building, that is indeed the best way. But how would that work for an external application made by someone else? For example Let's say I want to play far cry 6, or some game on 5.1 and send the output to Jack? Most apps like this only work with Windows Native. I'm looking for a tool to port windows native.

falkTX commented 3 years ago

jack-router is a possibility. current jack2 release do not ship with it, but might in the future (made optional) since now we have working binaries again. but even then, jack-router is for applications that talk ASIO, and stuff like games usually does not support that.

so I think the only solution here is some sort of virtual soundcard and a bridge to bring that soundcard into the jack graph. this will have at least 1 cycle of audio latency though.

marijncin commented 3 years ago

jack-router is a possibility. current jack2 release do not ship with it, but might in the future (made optional) since now we have working binaries again. but even then, jack-router is for applications that talk ASIO, and stuff like games usually does not support that.

so I think the only solution here is some sort of virtual soundcard and a bridge to bring that soundcard into the jack graph. this will have at least 1 cycle of audio latency though.

Exactly! "some sort of virtual soundcard" is what I am looking for! I tried VB Cable, but only let's me do stereo.

falkTX commented 3 years ago

or as a last resort, use an actual soundcard that can provide 8 output channels, and feed that into your main card inputs ?

marijncin commented 3 years ago

or as a last resort, use an actual soundcard that can provide 8 output channels, and feed that into your main card inputs ?

Yes, That would work. However, there must be a better way. I came across something called Synchronous audio router, but it does not work anymore unfortunately. (at least, I don't get it to work).

mr-berndt commented 3 years ago

Sorry for chiming in late but I might shed some insight.

I am using VB HiFi Cable wit 8 channels out of kodi, feeding them into jack and sending them to linux. This works, I use it since years, so it might be worth checking again.

Another option is to get a MiniDSP USB Streay<mer and configure it for ADAT and use fibreoptics cable to transport your 8 channels. Downside is, it will only be 48 kHz @ 16 bits. Dunno if this is enough for you.

marijncin commented 3 years ago

Sorry for chiming in late but I might shed some insight.

I am using VB HiFi Cable wit 8 channels out of kodi, feeding them into jack and sending them to linux. This works, I use it since years, so it might be worth checking again.

Another option is to get a MiniDSP USB Streay<mer and configure it for ADAT and use fibreoptics cable to transport your 8 channels. Downside is, it will only be 48 kHz @ 16 bits. Dunno if this is enough for you.

Thank you for your reply. In the meantime I have managed to get Voicemeeter working with Jack. This works great, thanks.

marijncin commented 3 years ago

Sorry for chiming in late but I might shed some insight.

I am using VB HiFi Cable wit 8 channels out of kodi, feeding them into jack and sending them to linux. This works, I use it since years, so it might be worth checking again.

Another option is to get a MiniDSP USB Streay<mer and configure it for ADAT and use fibreoptics cable to transport your 8 channels. Downside is, it will only be 48 kHz @ 16 bits. Dunno if this is enough for you.

Since you seem to be using Jack on Windows, might I ask you some burning questions? I could really use some help with my project.

mr-berndt commented 3 years ago

Didn't know voicemeteer, will check it out. Cool.

You can ask me, but all I use it for is sending the audio to the Linux box, so I might not be the right guy to ask. But please, fire away..

mr-berndt commented 3 years ago

But tell me one thing about voicemeteer: Is it restoring a useable connection, if the server side of jack disappears and comes back on? HiFi cable needs a click, meaning a keyboard, which is actually not connected to the video-player..

marijncin commented 3 years ago

Voicemeeter is also from VB cable, it has a bit more features then HIFI cable, and does all the same things. Currently, my problem is this: https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2/issues/719 I can't get JackRouter to work Properly on windows. Strange thing is: On some PC's it works well, on others it does not.

mr-berndt commented 3 years ago

I would not really know enough to help with your issue, sorry..

marijncin commented 3 years ago

But tell me one thing about voicemeteer: Is it restoring a useable connection, if the server side of jack disappears and comes back on? HiFi cable needs a click, meaning a keyboard, which is actually not connected to the video-player..

Don't think so.