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Maybe this should be high priority. Gabor apparently added over a thousand
records that were already in there with subgenus because he couldn't find them
as genus+species. He could not grasp my attempts to explain the issue. The
longer we wait, the bigger the clean-up...
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 30 Jan 2012 at 10:32
To review:
Taxonomy exists to facilitate communication.
"Diptera" (the animal Order) and "Diptera" (the plant Genus) are different
things.
"Sorex (Otisorex) cinereus Kerr, 1792" and "Sorex cinereus Kerr, 1792" are the
same things.
Right....
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 30 Jan 2012 at 10:53
Correct.
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 30 Jan 2012 at 10:59
I don't think we can represent that in our current model.
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 30 Jan 2012 at 11:08
Gotta get there somehow, even if takes a new model. This may be unrelated
to how the data are stored (e.g., hierarchical versus long rows), and so we
might be able to use somebody else's solution, if anybody has done it. A
compromise might be that we only concatenate subgenus into scientific_name
where species is null. You could still search all records by subgenus, and
it would only show up in scientific where it was really needed.
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 30 Jan 2012 at 11:49
This has everything to do with how the data are stored. Neither a "long row"
nor a hierarchical model will do what you want, at least not in any way that
I've been able to recognize.
Doesn't the ICZN provide guidelines for how names are formed?
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2012 at 12:07
So, maybe just an IF clause in the trigger that builds scientific_name?
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 31 Jan 2012 at 12:08
IF what?
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2012 at 12:12
IF subgenus, and species NOT null
THEN concatenate genus + species
ELSE concatenate genus + "(" + subgenus + ")"
or words to that effect...
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 31 Jan 2012 at 12:21
Are you suggesting we ignore ICZN guidelines? Are there such things?
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2012 at 12:37
Not sure what the applicable guidelines might be. *Sorex cinereus, Sorex
(Otisorex)* and *Sorex (Otisorex) cinereus* are all valid constructions, I
assume.
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 31 Jan 2012 at 1:03
Gordon would like to remove subgenus from display when species is given. So
both "genus=Sorex + species=cinereus" and "genus=Sorex + subgenus = Otisorex +
species=cinereus" would display as "Sorex cinereus."
If species is not given, "genus=Sorex + subgenus = Otisorex" would display as
"Sorex (Otisorex)".
So, when Taxonomy is re-concatenated under this logic, there are likely a few
thousand non-unique scientific_names. Can you temporarily delete anything Gabor
added to taxonomy in the past three months? Or can you script something to
delete the record with NULL subgenus when the scientific_names are the same?
Original comment by gordon.jarrell
on 1 Mar 2012 at 1:41
Original comment by dust...@gmail.com
on 15 Mar 2012 at 4:26
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
gordon.jarrell
on 4 Jan 2012 at 9:16