Give melee weapons a durability?

[jbzdarkid]

I keep hearing complaints about melee weapons being "op", so how about this. Say 50 swings -- so not a huge effect on players who are playing well, and moving quickly; but penalizes players who are doing poorly and relying on melees for completely shutting down boomers / events. This doesn't strictly discourage meleeing tank, but might help the issue.

Questions:

• Hud appearance? I'd like to have an "ammo count", but no idea how to do that.
• What happens when it breaks? I'd suggest just giving them a pistol.
• What about swapping melee weapons? Simple solution is to just limit players to 50 swings/map, regardless of melee weapon.

[Attano]

I vote yes if you promise to add unbreakable III and sharpness V.

[jbzdarkid]

So 200 swings and double damage?

[MattNF]

I don't really like this idea, I don't think promod should be introducing new mechanics outside the normal game.

If melees should be nerfed, I think the following two changes should be made: Reduce damage on Tank from 5% to 4%, and reduce the max common that can be killed from 5 to 3. And possibly remove machete.

But right now I don't think they should be nerfed too heavily unless we had some corresponding infected nerf/survivor buff. I think the balance is in a good place right now, or might be too hard for survivors slightly.

[HighCookie]

My idea to nerf melee

removing full levels (giving them chip level equivalent)

Full levels remove team elements, they are in-consistent across servers, tick-rates and pings. They can massively reward bad positioning.

Chip levels on the other hand are very consistent and require either pre-chip or another person on the team to help.

This will be more punishing for lone-heros, remove those instances where someone crowded by commons levels a charger that comes from behind them stopping themselves from being incapped / killed / etc. Generally makes the game more consistent.

The only other time I see melee be unbalanced is on tank and the ability to self clear commons. I think the reduction of melee through the map was a good fix for this.

As for its ability to one shot the other SI, that happens 99% of the time after a dead stop, the issue is the dead stop, if I dead stop you with anything out, ill kill you. I don't see this as a melee issue

[MattNF]

Scrapped idea?

[jbzdarkid]

I'd still like to code it, but I was waiting to see if people liked the idea first. I got basically no legitimate responses.

[MattNF]

I don't think it should be added on principle of not adding random new mechanics (unless really necessary, like health bonus)

I'd like to see it for l4d3 though lmao