jagrosh
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2 years ago It is currently impossible to review before /gend the patricipants who entered the giveaway
Seeing the current participants is already addressed in #162 .
The overall layout of how to gstart and gend is not as simple as before.
For command input, you can still copy and paste commands (for example: /gstart duration:1h winners:1 prize:test). Yes, they are slightly longer than they were previously, but the only way to avoid this would be to make the "winners" field optional. However, in testing, many users didn't notice that the optional field existed, and questioned why setting the number of winners had been removed. Hence, I've opted for maximum clarity over an extremely minor convenience that only affects a very small number of users. If Discord improves the appearance of optional parameters, I may consider modifying this behavior.
Same thing for /gend even though this is clearly not to complicated to quickly gend the last gstart
The removal of gend and greroll without parameters was an intentional change, as searching through previous messages was both a heavy toll on the bot, as well as a point of confusion for users. I'm not sure if Discord respects the provided autocomplete order, or if it re-orders in the client, but I can investigate and determine the best way to sort the autocomplete options if Discord does maintain the order provided. For example, I could sort by creation time, or by ending time.
The ephemeral messages when generating a gstart or gend is pointless spam
With slash commands, bots must respond to inputs, so the ephemeral message is the most-concise and least-intrusive way to respond. Additionally, this provides a quick method to give the giveaway creator the giveaway's ID, which is a convenience for users that don't have developer mode turned on.
Other option would be to still offer for use to only patreons supporters for example the old bot using ! command
The old system is not returning, as it was built on an entirely different framework, it was harder to maintain, and it was not nearly as bulletproof and efficient as the new system. It's also just not very conformant to how Discord wants bots to exist nowadays, and was vastly more expensive to run than the new system, which doesn't even need to connect to Discord's gateway at all. I have no plans to continue using the old code at all once the rewrite has fully taken over, although I'm sure there are plenty of clones/copies of this bot that will probably continue using my old code (or a variant of it, although these types of bots are fairly questionable).
TLDR: For the most part, the things that have changed have reasons behind them (or there is another issue addressing them), and are unlikely (at this time) to be reverted. The actionable component of this issue is to investigate the order of autocomplete options and determine if there is a better order in which to return options for gend and gdelete.
Tapalow
Hi Jag Thanks for the hard work you are doing on this bot as always with your team but I would really like to share a couple of points on the new format/layout of the new bot :
It is currently impossible to review before /gend the patricipants who entered the giveaway, this is for me and others essentials to make sure which participants are missing to a specific giveaway, only option is to spam @everyone the channel or have all participants reac on another message and make a review based on that... Find that to be a major digression with the previous model bot.
The overall layout of how to gstart and gend is not as simple as before. What I mean by this is for users who generate lots of giveaways daily, in my case we use it nearly 500 times a day for 2 entrants giveaways (50/50), we would much appreciate a setting to be able to generate a gstart in the same way we used to with !gstart but simply by replacing the ! by / Example : !gstart 1h test => /gstart 1h test --> In this case we never needed to specify the number of winners (default 1) and we do not need to tab or clic on each section to fill in this information. Suppose we could have the "/gstart 1h 1 test" copied and simply have to remove test by the prize but this is a bit of added unnecessary work. Same thing for /gend even though this is clearly not to complicated to quickly gend the last gstart (proposed last gstart is indicated by default)
The ephemeral messages when generating a gstart or gend is pointless spam and cannot be desactivated in discord settings. I know a simple clic can get rid of this message but would be nice to have a setting in giveaway settings to permanently remove these by choice (not by default)
Overall would be very nice to have the old layout of bot and command prompt but just replacing the ! by the /. Now is this possible in essence, will wait for your reply to tell me. Other option would be to still offer for use to only patreons supporters for example the old bot using ! command but hence not verified/certified by discord. I would gladly pay extra for this to keep as is.
Thanks very much for your consideration and support Tapalow