BOM and firmware?

[Pipstapee]

Any news on the BOM for the Typhoon (Supercell/Monsoon/Clouds) pcb on the pusherman website. Also, firmware, would it be released as a HEX?

[TotalRefusal]

Any news on the BOM for the Typhoon (Supercell/Monsoon/Clouds) pcb on the pusherman website. Also, firmware, would it be released as a HEX?

Wow, Pusherman did the wrong panel design. Time & Bank is labeled wrong way, at least if you follow pcb & schematics.

[Pipstapee]

Any news on the BOM for the Typhoon (Supercell/Monsoon/Clouds) pcb on the pusherman website. Also, firmware, would it be released as a HEX?

Wow, Pusherman did the wrong panel design. Time & Bank is labeled wrong way, at least if you follow pcb & schematics.

It's a good job I've not ordered any yet. Woops...I'll let him know, thanks for pointing that out.

[forestcaver]

You can build the fw yourself pretty easily - just follow the links in the microcell github to the superparasites fw. BOM can be exported from diptrace. Note that the export says it uses tle2172 (this is incorrect - it should be tlv2172 vssop package)

[Tnunnery]

What is the value of the 30mm slider pots? Did I miss it somewhere?

[jakplugg]

They are B10k, non detented. bourns PTL or compatible. [EDIT CORRECTION!] they are B10k, not A10k as originally posted, sorry!

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[epijdemie]

@jakplugg what are the voltage ratings of the capacitors in use for Typhoon?

[jakplugg]

Minimum 16v, but the higher the better.

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[epijdemie]

@jakplugg regarding firmware: can i upload the regular clouds via mutable vagrant and SWD (or even STLink util) so i have a bootloader and then user the superparasites.wav to upload the firmware? i can not get https://github.com/patrickdowling/superparasites compile in mutable's vagrant and i am too noob to configure it :/

[forestcaver]

No - cant upload regular clouds fw to typhoon To compile the superparasites - follow the instructions in the readme - see my comment above - you need to install a different arm toolchain into the mutable dev environment

[epijdemie]

No - cant upload regular clouds fw to typhoon To compile the superparasites - follow the instructions in the readme - see my comment above - you need to install a different arm toolchain into the mutable dev environment

damn, i am too stupid for linux stuff. i am using mutables vagrant on windows and literally copy/paste every command line from the mutable manual. is there maybe a vagrant around that has this toolchain installed? or a detailed tutorial for noobs like myself? :(

EDIT: or maybe just the HEX file so i can upload it via ST-Link utility

[forestcaver]

I dont know if anyone has setup the vagrantbox scripts for this box. It wouldnt be hard to do... I dont know of any detailed tutorials for setting up this exact configuration... You could just upload a compiled bootloader and main fw hex with ST-Link utility....

[epijdemie]

I dont know if anyone has setup the vagrantbox scripts for this box. It wouldnt be hard to do... I dont know of any detailed tutorials for setting up this exact configuration... You could just upload a compiled bootloader and main fw hex with ST-Link utility....

i managed to compile the supercell.hex within the MI vagrant with the src and toolchain @patrickdowling listed in the superparasites github.. however it fails to compile the bootloader, and without it the upload command wount work and i guess uploading the hex without the bootloader wount do any good. and i also guess i cannot just take the clouds bootloader. so if anyone could link a pre-compiled supercell_bootloader_combo.hex i would be very thankful :)

[TotalRefusal]

I took the Clouds bootloader & it works like a charm :)

[epijdemie]

i just got the bootloader to compile by NOT taking the stmlib from superparasites, but MI original one. having a combo file now and very curios if its gonna work :) (build not finished yet)

[TotalRefusal]

.... also use microcell.hex and guess what? It works like a charm :) Beside the slider leds (with opamps) it is pretty much the same hardware. Firmware does not care if there is a 10k pot or a 10k slider :)

[frekkia]

What dielectrics do ceramic capacitors use?

[jakplugg]

usually only C0G/NP0 capacitors are noted, default is X7R or X5R.

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[frekkia]

usually only C0G/NP0 capacitors are noted, default is X7R or X5R. …

I have seen that the white pushbutton uses a minimum voltage of 3.5v and I would like to change it with a green one, but it has a maximum voltage of 2.5v, is it okay?

[jakplugg]

The circuit is designed with no LED resistor (because of the high voltage drop of the white LED) theoretically there should be a 43 ohm resistor in series if the LED only has 2.5 Voltage drop. it MAY be OK, but if it is not, it will destroy that output on the STM.

i should add the resistors back in, they were removed in the microcell which typhoon was adapted from, and i did not even notice.

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I have seen that the white pushbutton uses a minimum voltage of 3.5v and I would like to change it with a green one, but it has a maximum voltage of 2.5v, is it okay?

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[frekkia]

The circuit is designed with no LED resistor (because of the high voltage drop of the white LED) theoretically there should be a 43 ohm resistor in series if the LED only has 2.5 Voltage drop. it MAY be OK, but if it is not, it will destroy that output on the STM. i should add the resistors back in, they were removed in the microcell which typhoon was adapted from, and i did not even notice. …

In fact I was comparing the pcb of clouds and that of typhoon, clouds adds two 68 ohm resistors in series, I could cut the track and add them manually in typhoon, what do you say?

[TotalRefusal]

I have a yellow LED running, with no problems so far :)

[jakplugg]

no reason you can't cut the trace and add a resistor if you are comfortable doing so.

[frekkia]

LM4040 the grade C or B doesn't make a difference right?

[Pipstapee]

LM4040 the grade C or B doesn't make a difference right? You buying from Mouser, B or C will be ok.

[Faye108]

@jakplugg What are suggested Ferrite beads for FB1 and FB2 ? I have some in stock that I had used for other Mutable clones. Can I use one of these? If so, which one? Mouser no. 710-742792693 Mouser no. 710-742792642 Mouser no. 710-742792664

Another question regarding R28 and R36 : Both 49.9k placed between Aref-2.5 and U9 (SSI2146) : Mouser canceled it in my order. Can they be replaced by another value? A.e. 47k or something in the 51k range maybe?

thank you!

[SatsumaAudio]

Is it definitely A10k? The original clouds uses B10k for these, or is there a reason to switch from linear to audio pots?

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[chmanie]

If anyone still has problems with the firmware, here's how I compiled it:

https://chmanie.com/post/2020/08/11/flashing-superparasites-to-typhoon/

[toneburst]

Is this the slider part? PTL30-15G1-103B1

[toneburst]

I have a yellow LED running, with no problems so far :)

Is that yellow button LED still OK? How's the brightness?

I'm thinking of doing the same.

[TotalRefusal]

I have a yellow LED running, with no problems so far :)

Is that yellow button LED still OK? How's the brightness?

I'm thinking of doing the same.

Yep, still fine. Brightness is like perfect :)

[Mesteves77]

Sourcing parts ahead of time, can anyone tell me what pots are these meant to be: POT_9MM_SNAP-IN__ (POT_9MMSNAP-IN)? TIA

[toneburst]

10K linear, 9mm, like

https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots-vertical-t18/ https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots/ or https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots-dshaft/

Other brands are available, but I can recommend these Alpha ones. They have a lovely smooth feel when rotated.

[Mesteves77]

10K linear, 9mm, like

https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots-vertical-t18/ https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots/ or https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/alpha-9mm-pots-dshaft/

Other brands are available, but I can recommend these Alpha ones. They have a lovely smooth feel when rotated.

Thanks man. i am familiar with the pots they do indeed feel great, plus a lot of knob choices on Round shafts and T18. One more thing, should any of them have center detent? Like the 4 pots for MIX, PAN, FBK, RVB, or even any of the other main control ones (pitch, In, Out)? Looking forward to join this club, but Im yet merely a beginner coming into the intermediate level but thinking and buying ahead of time to minimize costs.

[muziejus]

All, I've made a Mouser BOM. I'd love an extra few set of eyes on it:

https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=13c2ca3d6c

Couple of notes from a non-engineer like me who's still built over a dozen diff modules:

• I kept the white LED switch
• I added the slightly pricier MCU, because it's the only one in stock. I think the only diff is it can handle running hotter.
• I split the pots into two categories. In, Out, and Pitch are 3 Alps pots. Mouser doesn't carry the Alpha pots, but I like these Alps pots and, most importantly, they have the skinny (1mm) mounting feet. I've used these pots on all my MI builds, though they do require designing panels w/ bigger (m9) holes.
• The other four pots are trimmer pots. AFAICT, Mouser doesn't sell the Song Huei tall trimmer pots.
• I also added a line for the switch caps.

[muziejus]

I see I made mistakes on my own. My parts are coming in… once I confirm everything works (anyone have a spare WM8731SEDS/V?), I'll submit it as a PR to include a Mouserified BOM.

[claesbert]

Thanks, @muziejus , would appreciate that!

[mnefstead]

Hey @muziejus , have you had a chance to correct the mistakes you mentioned, or are there still some incorrect parts on that list?