Pale Moon Greasemonkey fork - long term intent?

[VLM1]

Greetings janekptacijarabaci, and thank you for creating an up-to-date fork of Greasemonkey for Pale Moon users. I do have a question about your intentions. On your page https://github.com/janekptacijarabaci/greasemonkey/releases/tag/3.9Fork, you write:

Will be updated sporadically - or maybe never... No, I don't want to fork the project (Greasemonkey).

Although I would, naturally, prefer to use your forked version of current-generation Greasemonkey, I wonder whether I (all PM users) should take this path for the long term. What is your intention, if you don't mind my asking?

[janekptacijarabaci]

Hello.

The following events occur (soon)...

(the order may be reversed)

1) Releasing a new version of Pale Moon (v27)

See "Pale Moon Forum" - "Ad: The Firefox addon Greasemonkey 3.8 (the original version)" See also https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Tycho/pull/108

Maybe (Greasemonkey code is constantly changing) it will not be needed (the "fork").

But then there is another event:

2) Greasemonkey move from XPCOM/XUL to WebExtensions (if so be it - but it is very likely)

See also "Pale Moon Forum" - "Greasemonkey recent versions"

Maybe in the future will be added (e.g., Moonchild wrote: "WebExtensions is not currently on the radar because we have much more important things to tackle first" - see https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=12486#p88362)...

But... There are too many incompatible changes for Pale Moon.

Maybe:

• Bugs: I will try to fix serious bugs and make a new release.
• Enhancements: If it's a simple code change, I can do it.

Or at least temporarily?!

As for me (if nobody takes it - see https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/all-extensions/), I'm still undecided... It depends on many factors.

We'll see...

[VLM1]

janekptacijarabaci, thank you for your kind response.

For better or for worse, I don't believe the PM dev team intends to add WebExtensions during any foreseeable time frame, if for no other reason than that the resources needed to support such an effort are apparently not available. I can understand that, of course.

If you are willing, as you say, to fix serious bugs, then at least those of us using PM pre-27 can continue to use the extension. OTOH, given the uncertainty involved, although I have been considering learning how to create some UserScripts for PM, I think I won't and will focus elsewhere instead.

Best regards,

[janekptacijarabaci]

When it released a new version of Pale Moon... Fixing bugs for the older version... I don't know if I'll do it.

It belong mainly to: "Greasemonkey move from XPCOM/XUL to WebExtensions".

[VLM1]

Yes, I understand, very clear. Thank you so much for this conversation.

[janekptacijarabaci]

You're welcome :-)

[janekptacijarabaci]

See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9501&start=40#p98409

[filbo]

Is greasemonkey#2456 a request to import this entire fork into mainline GM, or does it leave some things behind?

[filbo]

A: GM 2456 ~~ 8 files, +53 -43 lines this fork ~~ 26 files, +857 -167 lines

... so what exactly are you proposing in 2456?

[janekptacijarabaci]

This "fork" is (mainly) for Pale Moon 26.5.0-. It's currently enough for Pale Moon 27+ (https://github.com/greasemonkey/greasemonkey/pull/2456).

[Lootyhoof]

You know, one way or another I'd really like to get a version of Greasemonkey onto the Pale Moon Add-Ons Site. Given the fact that time is lacking for the official Greasemonkey (plus you're the most active contributor there lately, given the number of pull requests) I'd like to get this version live on the site, if you're willing. If you're not that's fine also, but if you are do you have a more private form of communication available to relay information to (it seems forum PMs are disabled for your account)?

[janekptacijarabaci]

@Lootyhoof

I'm sorry.

Unlike version 3.9.2-, version 3.9.3+ is an experimental version... And moreover... It isn't a full fledged fork at this point. Why? - It’s simply a question of time and responsibility.

I haven't decided what will happen. For now I leave it as it is for later evaluation...

But of course... Can you paste a link to your webpage. But I don't know if that's enough for you now...

it seems forum PMs are disabled for your account

I don't know anything about it.

[Lootyhoof]

Understandable. I can certainly link to this repository if you'd prefer, it's mostly just a matter of making the public at large aware that Greasemonkey does work on Pale Moon in one form or another.

It also seems that I do have the option of sending a PM now...odd.

[janekptacijarabaci]

I can certainly link to this repository if you'd prefer

Yes, thank you. And maybe it will stay that way :-)

[TPS]

@janekptacijarabaci There's been quite a bit of activity on the PM branch since last ß, but no release recently. Could that be rolled up into 1, please? :bow:

[janekptacijarabaci]

@TPS See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=16840#p123290 (it will be released as soon as possible)

[TPS]

@janekptacijarabaci Thanks much for all your work, & I look forward to the mentioned impending release. 👏

[yetiisyou]

Good time! Please fix work with https://github.com/SavageCore/yadg-pth-userscript https://rawgit.com/SavageCore/yadg-pth-userscript/master/pth_yadg.user.js

[janekptacijarabaci]

@yetiisyou

Please:

• Create a new issue
• Give as much detail as possible (i.e. any information from Browser Console are very helpful)

Edited - it was created: #9