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Remote MIDI Script for using Command|8 control surface in Ableton Live
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Issue with Command 8 and Ableton live 10 #1

Closed fmartin09 closed 4 years ago

fmartin09 commented 5 years ago

First, thanks a lot for working on this as many of us love our Command 8 and Ableton. So I uploaded the folder into the correct place and chose Command 8 as my surface in Ableton. I assume we have to put Command 8 on stand alone mode and also set the faders to specific channels for this to work. Please, advise.

jaromy commented 5 years ago

Awesome! Glad you are using Command8. Yes, you need to put it in stand alone mode. I'll see if I can get the channel #'s for you, been meaning to export/save them from my Command8 via sysex, but I never got around to it. It's been on my to-do list! You'll definitely need these mappings. I will see if I can do it this week for you.

Otherwise, if you are feeling ambitious, you can look in the file Command8.py. You'll see some code that looks like: mute_buttons.append(ButtonElement(not is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0 + track, 14))

So in this instance, I believe the CC number is 14, and then the associated data is the track #. Honestly it's been quite a while since I've looked at the code, but I believe this will put you on the right track.

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 11, 2019, at 10:01 AM, fmartin09 notifications@github.com wrote:

First, thanks a lot for working on this as many of us love our Command 8 and Ableton. So I uploaded the folder into the correct place and chose Command 8 as my surface in Ableton. I assume we have to put Command 8 on stand alone mode and also set the faders to specific channels for this to work. Please, advise.

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fmartin09 commented 5 years ago

Did you grab the CCs based on the regular Ableton Live midi mapping for faders and encoders? It would be awesome if you can get the mapping even if it’s just stating them (it won’t take me long to code them myself.) I bet that there are tons of people like me that love Ableton and Command8… Thanks again for your work!

Cheers,

Martin

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Awesome! Glad you are using Command8. Yes, you need to put it in stand alone mode. I'll see if I can get the channel #'s for you, been meaning to export/save them from my Command8 via sysex, but I never got around to it. It's been on my to-do list! You'll definitely need these mappings. I will see if I can do it this week for you.

Otherwise, if you are feeling ambitious, you can look in the file Command8.py. You'll see some code that looks like: mute_buttons.append(ButtonElement(not is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0 + track, 14))

So in this instance, I believe the CC number is 14, and then the associated data is the track #. Honestly it's been quite a while since I've looked at the code, but I believe this will put you on the right track.

Cheers, Jaromy

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First, thanks a lot for working on this as many of us love our Command 8 and Ableton. So I uploaded the folder into the correct place and chose Command 8 as my surface in Ableton. I assume we have to put Command 8 on stand alone mode and also set the faders to specific channels for this to work. Please, advise.

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jaromy commented 5 years ago

Martin,

I honestly don't remember if it's the regular Ableton midi mapping or not, it's been so long. Yeah, not having the mapping kinda makes this project useless! An oversight on my part. My command8 isn't set up at the moment, so unfortunately I can't do a quick check. But I'll get something to you either tomorrow or Wednesday, I should have more time by then to sit down and get everything connected, check the parameters, and do the sysex dump.

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 13, 2019, at 12:27 PM, fmartin09 notifications@github.com wrote:

Did you grab the CCs based on the regular Ableton Live midi mapping for faders and encoders? It would be awesome if you can get the mapping even if it’s just stating them (it won’t take me long to code them myself.) I bet that there are tons of people like me that love Ableton and Command8… Thanks again for your work!

Cheers,

Martin

From: Jaromy [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 2:51 PM To: jaromy/ableton-live-command8 Cc: fmartin09; Author Subject: Re: [jaromy/ableton-live-command8] Issue with Command 8 and Ableton live 10 (#1)

Awesome! Glad you are using Command8. Yes, you need to put it in stand alone mode. I'll see if I can get the channel #'s for you, been meaning to export/save them from my Command8 via sysex, but I never got around to it. It's been on my to-do list! You'll definitely need these mappings. I will see if I can do it this week for you.

Otherwise, if you are feeling ambitious, you can look in the file Command8.py. You'll see some code that looks like: mute_buttons.append(ButtonElement(not is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0 + track, 14))

So in this instance, I believe the CC number is 14, and then the associated data is the track #. Honestly it's been quite a while since I've looked at the code, but I believe this will put you on the right track.

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 11, 2019, at 10:01 AM, fmartin09 notifications@github.com wrote:

First, thanks a lot for working on this as many of us love our Command 8 and Ableton. So I uploaded the folder into the correct place and chose Command 8 as my surface in Ableton. I assume we have to put Command 8 on stand alone mode and also set the faders to specific channels for this to work. Please, advise.

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jaromy commented 5 years ago

Hi Martin,

Attached is the sysex file for the standalone preset on my Command8 that works with Ableton Live. If you need help loading this, just let me know. The Command8 manual has a good section on loading/saving presets from/to sysex, but I'm happy to help too.

Once this is loaded, and the script folder is loaded in Ableton (which it will automatically on startup), then you should be good to go. You shouldn't need to do any manual mapping, as this is done for you in the script. If you need to check MIDI channels, CC numbers, etc, you can do so from Command8, or by monitoring the MIDI connection. Generally speaking, though, I believe the mappings are pretty standard. E.g., the faders are CC 7, using midi channels 1-16 for each track.

I'm also attaching some diagrams that hopefully explain how things are mapped and what happens when you press this button, turn this knob, etc. kinda thing. Basically there are three modes: 1) base - normal mode. Encoders are mapped to pan; mute button, solo, as expected for each track 2) bank - 'bank' button is engaged on Command8; this makes the upper four faders Return A & B, crossfade, and master fader. It also allows adjusting tempo and cue level via the encoders on the upper (far right) two faders. 3) shift - basically a 'bank' switch to allow the Mute buttons to instead control the recording/arm for each track. Also, the encoders then control device parameters for any devices on the selected track. E.g, if you have an instance of Impulse running on a track, the encoders would allow you to adjust the volume for each drum part (kick, snare, hi-hat, etc).

Hope this helps!

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 13, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Jaromy Russo code@jaromy.net wrote:

Martin,

I honestly don't remember if it's the regular Ableton midi mapping or not, it's been so long. Yeah, not having the mapping kinda makes this project useless! An oversight on my part. My command8 isn't set up at the moment, so unfortunately I can't do a quick check. But I'll get something to you either tomorrow or Wednesday, I should have more time by then to sit down and get everything connected, check the parameters, and do the sysex dump.

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 13, 2019, at 12:27 PM, fmartin09 <notifications@github.com mailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

Did you grab the CCs based on the regular Ableton Live midi mapping for faders and encoders? It would be awesome if you can get the mapping even if it’s just stating them (it won’t take me long to code them myself.) I bet that there are tons of people like me that love Ableton and Command8… Thanks again for your work!

Cheers,

Martin

From: Jaromy [mailto:notifications@github.com mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 2:51 PM To: jaromy/ableton-live-command8 Cc: fmartin09; Author Subject: Re: [jaromy/ableton-live-command8] Issue with Command 8 and Ableton live 10 (#1)

Awesome! Glad you are using Command8. Yes, you need to put it in stand alone mode. I'll see if I can get the channel #'s for you, been meaning to export/save them from my Command8 via sysex, but I never got around to it. It's been on my to-do list! You'll definitely need these mappings. I will see if I can do it this week for you.

Otherwise, if you are feeling ambitious, you can look in the file Command8.py. You'll see some code that looks like: mute_buttons.append(ButtonElement(not is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0 + track, 14))

So in this instance, I believe the CC number is 14, and then the associated data is the track #. Honestly it's been quite a while since I've looked at the code, but I believe this will put you on the right track.

Cheers, Jaromy

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First, thanks a lot for working on this as many of us love our Command 8 and Ableton. So I uploaded the folder into the correct place and chose Command 8 as my surface in Ableton. I assume we have to put Command 8 on stand alone mode and also set the faders to specific channels for this to work. Please, advise.

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fmartin09 commented 5 years ago

I really appreciate it! I didn’t get the attachment, though. Please, advise.

From: Jaromy [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:02 AM To: jaromy/ableton-live-command8 Cc: fmartin09; Author Subject: Re: [jaromy/ableton-live-command8] Issue with Command 8 and Ableton live 10 (#1)

Hi Martin,

Attached is the sysex file for the standalone preset on my Command8 that works with Ableton Live. If you need help loading this, just let me know. The Command8 manual has a good section on loading/saving presets from/to sysex, but I'm happy to help too.

Once this is loaded, and the script folder is loaded in Ableton (which it will automatically on startup), then you should be good to go. You shouldn't need to do any manual mapping, as this is done for you in the script. If you need to check MIDI channels, CC numbers, etc, you can do so from Command8, or by monitoring the MIDI connection. Generally speaking, though, I believe the mappings are pretty standard. E.g., the faders are CC 7, using midi channels 1-16 for each track.

I'm also attaching some diagrams that hopefully explain how things are mapped and what happens when you press this button, turn this knob, etc. kinda thing. Basically there are three modes: 1) base - normal mode. Encoders are mapped to pan; mute button, solo, as expected for each track 2) bank - 'bank' button is engaged on Command8; this makes the upper four faders Return A & B, crossfade, and master fader. It also allows adjusting tempo and cue level via the encoders on the upper (far right) two faders. 3) shift - basically a 'bank' switch to allow the Mute buttons to instead control the recording/arm for each track. Also, the encoders then control device parameters for any devices on the selected track. E.g, if you have an instance of Impulse running on a track, the encoders would allow you to adjust the volume for each drum part (kick, snare, hi-hat, etc).

Hope this helps!

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 13, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Jaromy Russo code@jaromy.net wrote:

Martin,

I honestly don't remember if it's the regular Ableton midi mapping or not, it's been so long. Yeah, not having the mapping kinda makes this project useless! An oversight on my part. My command8 isn't set up at the moment, so unfortunately I can't do a quick check. But I'll get something to you either tomorrow or Wednesday, I should have more time by then to sit down and get everything connected, check the parameters, and do the sysex dump.

Cheers, Jaromy

On May 13, 2019, at 12:27 PM, fmartin09 <notifications@github.com mailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

Did you grab the CCs based on the regular Ableton Live midi mapping for faders and encoders? It would be awesome if you can get the mapping even if it’s just stating them (it won’t take me long to code them myself.) I bet that there are tons of people like me that love Ableton and Command8… Thanks again for your work!

Cheers,

Martin

From: Jaromy [mailto:notifications@github.com mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 2:51 PM To: jaromy/ableton-live-command8 Cc: fmartin09; Author Subject: Re: [jaromy/ableton-live-command8] Issue with Command 8 and Ableton live 10 (#1)

Awesome! Glad you are using Command8. Yes, you need to put it in stand alone mode. I'll see if I can get the channel #'s for you, been meaning to export/save them from my Command8 via sysex, but I never got around to it. It's been on my to-do list! You'll definitely need these mappings. I will see if I can do it this week for you.

Otherwise, if you are feeling ambitious, you can look in the file Command8.py. You'll see some code that looks like: mute_buttons.append(ButtonElement(not is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0 + track, 14))

So in this instance, I believe the CC number is 14, and then the associated data is the track #. Honestly it's been quite a while since I've looked at the code, but I believe this will put you on the right track.

Cheers, Jaromy

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jaromy commented 5 years ago

Hi Martin,

I didn't realize our emails were being filtered through GitHub. I was just using a normal email client, so that's probably why the attachments did not go through.

Anyway, I've updated the repository with a better readme file, as well as uploaded the diagrams and the SysEx file. You can find the SysEx file in "Command8 Preset" folder.

Cheers, Jaromy

fmartin09 commented 5 years ago

I really, really appreciate it man!!! If you're ever in Atlanta, GA let me know. I owe you some drinks.

Cheers, Fernando Martin

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Hi Martin,

I didn't realize our emails were being filtered through GitHub. I was just using a normal email client, so that's probably why the attachments did not go through.

Anyway, I've updated the repository with a better readme file, as well as uploaded the diagrams and the SysEx file. You can find the SysEx file in "Command8 Preset" folder.

Cheers, Jaromy

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jaromy commented 5 years ago

Awesome, I will! No worries, glad to help out, and glad you find this useful.

J

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I really, really appreciate it man!!! If you're ever in Atlanta, GA let me know. I owe you some drinks.

Cheers, Fernando Martin

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Hi Martin,

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Cheers, Jaromy

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