Closed lawriesm closed 1 week ago
Hi @lawriesm ,
Thanks for your report, are you able to share your data as a .csv or .jasp file? You can upload them here as a zipped file. That will help me figure out what is going wrong. ediT: I also see you are using a slightly older version of JASP - can you try if you still get the error in JASP 0.19.1?
Cheers, Johnny
Hi Johnny,
Absolutely. I've attached it as a zipped Jasp file as requested. If you need anything else just ket me know.
I'm going to try a newer version tomorrow, but our students are still on this version, so any help/guidance is greatly appreciated.
Thanks and best regards,
Lawrie
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Hi @lawriesm https://github.com/lawriesm ,
Thanks for your report, are you able to share your data as a .csv or .jasp file? You can upload them here as a zipped file. That will help me figure out what is going wrong.
Cheers, Johnny
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Hi Lawrie,
I don't see the zipped file, maybe that's because you're replying by email? Github doesn't seem to handle that well.
Cheers, Johnny
Body Image Data Set Week 4 Workshop.zip Hi Jonny, Sorry about that. I've attached it here and hopefully this time you'll get it. All the best, Lawrie
Hi Lawrie,
Thanks, I had a look at your data, and I am getting the same error about a singular SSP matrix in R when conducting the RM ANOVA. This happens when there is a high degree of correlation between your repeated measures, and/or little variation. It does look like your rm measures are highly correlated, but not outlandishly so (approx 0.7 between before-halfway, and after-halfway). Is this an educational data set? If so, maybe you can introduce some additional noise to the measures and see if that improves the singularity error? You could also fit a mixed effects model instead of the rm anova if that fails.
Kind regards, Johnny
Hi Johnny, It is an old dataset that we've used each year, but we've only this year moved to JASP from SPSS so it's the first time we've had the error. I'll see if I can add some random noise to get it working tomorrow and get back to you, as I'm really not keen or returning to SPSS. All the best, Lawrie
Hi @lawriesm,
Ah I understand - for what it's worth, here is an updated csv with a bit of noise introduced to the before stroop column. Now the sphericity test works (while still having the same effects), but it does seem like there is a very high degree of sphericity. stroop_noisy.csv
Cheers Johnny
Hi Johnny, Thanks so much for that, it's very much appreciate it. We'll use the updated data and the high sphericity isn't necessarily a bad thing as we'll use it as a demonstration in the lesson. I'll be sure to check the correlation of our demo datasets in future and now I know a bit of noise can help there. Thanks again and all the best, Lawrie
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JASP Version
0.18.0
Commit ID
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JASP Module
ANOVA
What analysis are you seeing the problem on?
Repeated Measures ANOVA
What OS are you seeing the problem on?
Windows 10
Bug Description
Running a simple 1-way repeated measures ANOVA with 1 RM factor with 3 levels, but I get the bug "Cannot perform sphericity test because there are only two levels of the RM factor, or because the SSP matrix is singular". Error is independent of names given
Expected Behaviour
There should be a test for sphericity and adjusted values in the ANOVA table
Steps to Reproduce
Log (if any)
JASP 2024-09-25 17_18_15 Desktop.log JASP 2024-09-25 17_36_39 Desktop.log
More Debug Information
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Final Checklist