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A Better Rolls port for SWADE
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Rifts - Ranged Armor #542

Closed valdier1 closed 1 year ago

valdier1 commented 1 year ago

Rifts has the concept with Cyberknights, psi-warriors, etc for Ranged Armor, in which a shield adds armor to ranged attacks against the wielder.

It would be nice if we could add a world effect or better, if core supported properties of "ranged armor" and "melee armor", that added or subtracted from the base armor value. BR2 could then use distance to target (greater than 1 square, the same way as gang up) to see if the ranged armor modifier should be added.

If done as a world effect, then a toggleable option to give the target "extra armor vs this attack based on Spirit, Psionics, or whatever in the macro"

javierriveracastro commented 1 year ago

And how is ranged armor idenfied? AFAIK system has no way of telling ranged armor appart from normal.

Note that I don't own any RIFTs module, so maybe it is a stupid question.

valdier1 commented 1 year ago

In this case, it just notes "and provides the wielder's Spirit in MDC Armor if an enemy attempts to shoot through it"

I think for simplicity purposes, if the attack is using shooting or athletics, then it could add the "ranged armor" value?

javierriveracastro commented 1 year ago

The problem here is identifying the "ranged" armor. I can't (well, shouldn't) add data or toggles to items. This is out of scope of br. So I need something already existing that identifies the armor. And a text in notes is probably not the best idea.

valdier1 commented 1 year ago

I think this is honestly too complicated for Foundry to handle easily. This is more of an issue with shields in general. Shields don't technically make you miss when the cover value is applied, the shot hits your shield and then the armor value of the shield is applied to your base armor. The "ranged" armor in Rifts works similar:

Shield gives Cover -4, and Spirit in Armor. But, much like shields in the base book, if someone rolls a 7 lets say to hit, you still hit even though the TN is 8, but you get to apply the shields cover value to your armor. It's just an artifact of some of the more complex fiddly bits of SWADE that is likely better off being ignored in the game.

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The problem here is identifying the "ranged" armor. I can't (well, shouldn't) add data or toggles to items. This is out of scope of br. So I need something already existing that identifies the armor. And a text in notes is probably not the best idea.

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javierriveracastro commented 1 year ago

So, I'm closing this a it looks like it is not actionable.