Is it possible to add a button in the track parameters that opens a menu with all the sends and receives of the selected track and if you select a send or receive track it takes you into the TCP in the right track?

[Lo-lo78]

Hello, while mixing I feel the need to switch to the FX Chain of the track send or the Receive. In this way it would be possible to pass from the source track to the receiving track, from the receiving track to the source; to get to the desired FX Chain list faster.

For instance:

Parameter: Combo box 2 Reverb send volume
Value: progress cursor 0.00dB 0.00dB FX Chain: 2 Reverb Button ALT + p Filter: ALT + f Close Button ALT + c

It should also include the Pan, Mute and Mono of all sends or Receives.

In my opinion this improves the work a lot and makes it faster. Greetings!

[jcsteh]

It might be possible - I'm not entirely sure - but the user experience for this feels very obscure to me. That is, it doesn't feel intuitive that you would access the FX chain for a send by going into the Track parameters dialog, locating a send parameter and then finding a button to open the FX chain. It's also very specific to send parameters, which would make it difficult to implement cleanly, even if it is possible.

@ScottChesworth , I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

[ScottChesworth]

Hmm, it drifts a country mile wide of Reaper's mainstream UX. I can see how it'd be useful in situ though. A closer approximation of the mainstream UX (and even bigger productivity boost) would be the ability to have multiple parameter dialogs open, our spin on how sighted users can already float multiple FX windows on screen at the same time when needed. However, pretty sure that's been requested before and was deemed to be a boat load of work?

[mattymc2]

I might be way off base here but I can definitely see having easier access to send volumes, mutes, pans, etc would be super useful. The IO dialogue is not the friendliest and is a boat load of tabbing just to change a send value by 1 DB. Just my thoughts

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Hmm, it drifts a country mile wide of Reaper's mainstream UX. I can see how it'd be useful in situ though. A closer approximation of the mainstream UX (and even bigger productivity boost) would be the ability to have multiple parameter dialogs open, our spin on how sighted users can already float multiple FX windows on screen at the same time when needed. However, pretty sure that's been requested before and was deemed to be a boat load of work?

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[jcsteh]

I'm not sure multiple open Parameters dialogs have been discussed, at least not at length. I honestly don't know how you'd make a decent UX for that, in the same way that accessing multiple open FX chains isn't great for screen reader users. Happy to discuss if you have ideas on how the UX would work, though.

[jcsteh]

@mattymc2: You can already access send volumes/pans/mutes from the OSARA Track Parameters dialog.

[ScottChesworth]

I honestly don't know how you'd make a decent UX for that, in the same way that accessing multiple open FX chains isn't great for screen reader users.

My first thought was to mimic the UX of multiple tabs being open in a browser. However, if you don't mind lifting a design from another DAW wholesale, I remember loving how Pro Tools handled this. Two additional combo boxes, one to choose the track and another to choose which plug-in you want to display parameters for. In PT, the parameters updated as you chose options. When you changed your choice of track, the params of the first plug-in in its chain were populated by default. So essentially, only one instance of the parameters dialog, but the params of any plug-in on any track were quick to reach without leaving the dialog, locating the next track, reloading etc. I've no idea what that might do in terms of a performance hit, it was difficult to gauge that when I used to use PT because it was like wading through mud by default with VoiceOver turned on. My concern would be repopulating VST3's on the fly, they often have boat loads of generic params needlessly exposed. Does that give you any ideas, bring you out in a cold sweat, or do anything else?

[jcsteh]

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but I honestly don't follow how that would be more efficient. Pressing a key to get to the track list, selecting a track, pressing tab and then selecting an effect doesn't seem any less keystrokes than pressing escape, selecting a track, pressing p and then selecting an effect. If anything, the former might actually be more keystrokes.

[mattymc2]

Aaaa crap sorry man. Completely flaked on this! Shows how much I use that dialogue, really need too. Thanks for the heads

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@mattymc2 https://github.com/mattymc2: You can already access send volumes/pans/mutes from the OSARA Track Parameters dialog.

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[ScottChesworth]

I honestly don't follow how that would be more efficient.

1. A combo box control is first letter navigable, the track list isn't. At high track counts, that could be a pretty big advantage, particularly if the user is willing to adapt their track naming conventions. For example, track names could begin with characters that local verbosity settings don't report, enabling the user to jumped through categories.
2. Track names could be reported without other contextual info, clarifying navigation through them for new users (or anyone who finds the amount of status reports distracting/overwhelming really).
3. Focus. Staying inside one window and tackling a bunch of tasks related to parameters lessens the chances of distraction. This point may only serve to highlight my current frustrations around discipline, but I'm listing it anyway. :)

[jcsteh]

Ah, I didn't think of first letter nav. That would only work if you didn't have the track numbers before the track names in the combo box, though, which might be problematic for some users.

That said, this too feels pretty far off REAPER's mainstream UX. Also, it introduces a bunch of inconsistency into that dialog, both UX and code. Right now, the core UX and code is the same for all OSARA parameters dialogs. If we did this, it'd need extra controls when dealing with track FX, but those controls wouldn't exist when dealing with item parameters, take FX, etc.

I'm a no go on this unless we can come up with a better, more consistent UX.

[Lo-lo78]

I understand James, It could help speed up a mix a lot! I found a ReaPack action but it doesn't work well:

Script: Archie_Track; Show only send of selected track(s).lua

It seems to work but when you have very complex routing it's not good ...

Greetings!

[ScottChesworth]

Right now, the core UX and code is the same for all OSARA parameters dialogs. If we did this, it'd need extra controls when dealing with track FX, but those controls wouldn't exist when dealing with item parameters, take FX, etc. I'm a no go on this unless we can come up with a better, more consistent UX.

Fair points, I hadn't considered the code differences. Given how much of a headache keeping the parameters dialog stable cross platform has already been, it doesn't seem like the juice is worth the squeeze.

[Lo-lo78]

Hi everyone! If you disable all items from Reaper's "View" menu and read the pseudo status bar with NVDA, you will read the track selected with sends and receives in TCP. For instance:

HiHat; [recvs] Kick, Snare [sends] hi saturo

crash noise [recvs] Kick

vox group [sends] 6

saturated group [recvs] 18

When there are many sends or receives, it puts a number directly.

saturated group [recvs] 18

vox group [sends] 6

Could this help for our purpose? Reaper seems to already work by looking at the sends or receives of the selected track. I think it is a nice step forward in TCP. Perhaps now it is possible in the Track Parameters to be able to go to the send or receive track. Thank you!

[Lo-lo78]

Effectively Reaper gives the possibility to identify sends and receives. There is a script that displays the sends of the selected trace in the TCP: "Script: Archie_Track; Show only send of selected track(s).lua" If we could integrate this possibility into the track parameters the work in a very complex project would be a great achievement. It can happen that the routing is very complex and a button on the track parameters for the send and the Receive simplifies the management of the project.

[Lo-lo78]

Even if this issue is closed, I will continue the discussion here. There is this beautiful script from Buyone that performs this functionality: https://github.com/Buy-One/REAPER-scripts/blob/main/Tracks/BuyOne_Navigate%20to%20track%20send%20destination%20or%20receive%20source%20track%20via%20menu.lua With the update of this script the OSARA action no longer works: OSARA: Report track/item/time/MIDI selection (depending on focus) When I enter on a send or receive it reads the title of the Reaper window and not the selected track. I don't know how OSARA behaves with Reaper and I don't know about screen readers. With NVDA it only reads the Reaper window title. In practice, the Reaper window title message overlaps with the OSARA message that reads the selected track but Reaper overlaps the window title message. I don't know what to advise Buyone to solve the problem. The script works very well for anyone to see and I believe he has made some substantial changes. My proposal to update this script generated this problem. I had asked him for the functionality to also read the selected track. The sends and receives were already read perfectly. Do you have any suggestions for fixing the script? Thanks for everything you do!

[Lo-lo78]

To prevent it from asking you to save the project the first time: Change this string: REMINDER_OFF = "" Adding the number 1: REMINDER_OFF = "1" It no longer asks you to save the project the first time.

[Lo-lo78]

If you give me various hypotheses and ideas we could correct the script for our workflow too.

[Lo-lo78]

What caused the problem with reading the main Reaper window after selecting a send or receive? Sorry for the full code: --[[ ReaScript name: Navigate to track send destination or receive source track via menu Author: BuyOne Website: https://forum.cockos.com/member.php?u=134058 or https://github.com/Buy-One/REAPER-scripts/issues Version: 1.2 Changelog: 1.2 #Added current track name readout 1.1 #Fixed REAPER version evaluation Licence: WTFPL REAPER: at least v5.962 About: As far as going to send destination track is concerned the script is an alternative to the native feature accessible in the TCP/MCP send slot right click menu. It lists all send destinations in a single menu along with their basic information.

    In addition the script provides a facility to go to 
    receive source tracks which isn't available natively.

    The menu lists send destination / receive source track
    index, name (if any), number of sends/receives routed
    from/to the given track, whether send destination / receive 
    source track is a child in a collapsed folder (-c) and 
    whether it's hidden in the currently active context (-h) 
    which is either the Arrange view or the Mixer.

    The currently active context is determined by the Mixer
    visibility. If visible the target track will be scrolled
    to in the Mixer, otherwise it will be scrolled to in 
    the Arrange view.

    When the script is run via a shortcut, it displays
    sends/receives menu of a track under mouse cursor.
    A click on the send or receive menu item makes the tracklist
    scroll to the corresponding track and select it.
    In the Mixer such track ends up at the leftmost position,
    in the Arrange view - in the middle of the tracklist. 

    If the send destination / receive source track happens to 
    be inside a collapsed folder in the Mixer, its parent or the 
    leftmost visible grandparent track of a collapsed folder its 
    parent is a child in (if any) is scrolled into view instead.  
    If the track is visible in the Mixer and happens to be in a
    collapsed folder whose parent track is hidden, the leftmost
    visible grandparent track of a collapsed folder its parent
    is a child in (if any) is scrolled into view.  
    The send destination / receive source track is selected even
    if its (grand)parents are scrolled into view, so in case it's 
    inside a collapsed folder it's easy to pick it out after 
    uncollapsing the folder.  

    If there's no track under mouse cursor the script looks 
    for the first selected track. Thus it can also be run from 
    a toolbar or a menu in which case the relevant track must 
    be selected.

    If there're more than one send to or receive from 
    a particular track, the total of such sends/receives 
    is displayed in square brackets next to the destination 
    track entry in the menu. This is purely for information.

    To close the menu without action click elsewhere with 
    the mouse or click 'Esc' key on the keyboard or click 
    'close' menu item at the bottom.

]]

---

------------------------------ USER SETTINGS --------------------------------

-- To enable the following settings insert any alphanumeric character -- between the quotes.

-- Enable this setting to permanently -- prevent USER SETTINGS reminder pop-up REMINDER_OFF = ""

-- Both settings are valid if both are filled out or both are empty; -- it's recommended to have both valid because this will allow easy -- navigation between send/receive source and destination tracks LIST_SENDS = "" LIST_RECEIVES = ""

-- The following settings are supported in REAPER builds 6.37 and later;

-- if enabled, when the Mixer context is active -- the menu will only be called if the mouse cursor -- hovers over the MCP send list, -- in all other cases it's enough that it hover over the track DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST = ""

-- if enabled, when the Arrange view context is active -- the menu will only be called if the mouse cursor -- hovers over the TCP I/O button, -- in all other cases it's enough that it hover over the track DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON = ""

---

-------------------------- END OF USER SETTINGS -----------------------------

local r = reaper

function Msg(param, cap) -- caption second or none local cap = cap and type(cap) == 'string' and #cap > 0 and cap..' = ' or '' reaper.ShowConsoleMsg(cap..tostring(param)..'\n') end

function Reminder_Off(REMINDEROFF) local function gap(n) -- number of repeats, integer local n = not n and 0 or tonumber(n) and math.abs(math.floor(n)) or 0 return string.rep(' ',n) -- return (' '):rep(n) end local , scr_name, scr_sect_ID, cmdID, ,, = r.get_action_context() local scr_name = scr_name:match('([^\/]+)%.%w+') -- without path and extension --local cmd_ID = r.ReverseNamedCommandLookup(cmd_ID) -- to use instead of scr_name // just an idea local ret, state = r.GetProjExtState(0, scr_name, 'REMINDER_OFF') if #REMINDER_OFF:gsub(' ','') == 0 and ret == 0 then local resp = r.MB('\t'..gap(7)..'This is to make you aware\n\n'..gap(12)..'that the script includes USER SETTINGS\n\n'..gap(10)..'you might want to tailor to your workflow.\n\n'..gap(17)..'Clicking "OK" disables this prompt\n\n'..gap(8)..'for the current project (which will be saved).\n\n\t'..gap(6)..'To disable it permanently\n\n change the REMINDER_OFF setting inside the script.\n\n Select it the the Action list and click "Edit action..."', 'REMINDER', 1) if resp == 1 then r.SetProjExtState(0, scr_name, 'REMINDER_OFF', '1') r.Main_SaveProject(0, false) -- forceSaveAsIn false return true end else return true end end

function Error_Tooltip(text) local x, y = r.GetMousePosition() --r.TrackCtl_SetToolTip(text:upper(), x, y, true) -- topmost true local tr = r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) local time_init = r.time_precise() r.TrackCtl_SetToolTip(text:upper():gsub('.','%0 '), x, y, true) -- spaced out // topmost true repeat until tr and r.time_precise()-time_init >= 0.7 or not tr end

function Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, cat, mixer_vis) -- cat is number: < 0 receives, 0 sends; mixer_vis is booleand local parm = cat < 0 and 'P_SRCTRACK' or cat == 0 and 'P_DESTTRACK' local t, menu_t = {}, {''} -- empty string as a placeholder for menu titles, without it table.insert() would have to be used outside of the function instead of simply assigning the title to the field local dest_tr_init, dest_snd_cnt = nil, 0 for i = 0, r.GetTrackNumSends(tr, cat)-1 do local dest_tr = r.GetTrackSendInfo_Value(tr, cat, i, parm) -- local mute = r.GetTrackSendInfo_Value(tr, cat, i, 'B_MUTE') == 1 and ' -m' or '' local child_of_collapsed_folder = Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(dest_tr, mixer_vis) and ' -c' or '' local is_hidden = not r.IsTrackVisible(dest_tr, mixer_vis) and ' -h' or '' local data = child_of_collapsed_folder..is_hidden if dest_tr ~= dest_tr_init then t[#t+1] = dest_tr -- local tr_idx = r.CSurf_TrackToID(dest_tr, true) -- mpcView true // unsuitable since doesn't return index of tracks hidden within collapsed folders local tr_idx = (r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(dest_tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')..''):match('(.+)%.') -- truncate trailing decimal 0 local ret, name_generic = r.GetTrackName(dest_tr) -- difficult to evaluate alone since ret is true even without custom name local ret, name = r.GetSetMediaTrackInfo_String(dest_tr, 'P_NAME', '', false) -- setNewValue false local name = #name > 0 and tr_idx..' '..name or name_generic -- if no name the format is "Track N" menu_t[#menu_t+1] = name..'|' dest_tr_init = dest_tr dest_snd_cnt = 1 else -- update count for the dest track in the menu entry dest_snd_cnt = dest_snd_cnt+1 local entry = menu_t[#menu_t] local name = entry:match('(.+) %[') or entry:match('(.+)|') -- entry with snd/rcv count or the very first entry menu_t[#menu_t] = name..' ['..dest_snd_cnt..']'..(data or '')..'|' -- the data is always added to the end of the menu entry end

end

if #t > 0 then return t, menu_t end

end

local function GetObjChunk(obj) -- https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=193686 -- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EUGEN27771/ReaScripts_Test/master/Functions/FXChain -- https://github.com/EUGEN27771/ReaScripts/blob/master/Various/FXRack/Modules/FXChain.lua if not obj then return end local tr = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'MediaTrack') local item = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'MediaItem') local env = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'TrackEnvelope') -- works for take envelope as well -- Try standard function ----- local t = tr and {r.GetTrackStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or item and {r.GetItemStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or env and {r.GetEnvelopeStateChunk(obj, '', false)} -- isundo = false // https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181000#9 local ret, obj_chunk = table.unpack(t) -- OR -- local ret, obj_chunk = table.unpack(tr and {r.GetTrackStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or item and {r.GetItemStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or env and {r.GetEnvelopeStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or {x,x}) -- isundo = false // https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181000#9 if ret and obj_chunk and #obj_chunk >= 4194303 and not r.APIExists('SNM_CreateFastString') then return 'err_mess' elseif ret and obj_chunk and #obj_chunk < 4194303 then return ret, obj_chunk -- 4194303 bytes (4.194303 Mb) = (4096 kb 1024 bytes) - 1 byte // since build 4.20 http://reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=4x end -- If chunk_size >= max_size, use wdl fast string -- local fast_str = r.SNM_CreateFastString('') if r.SNM_GetSetObjectState(obj, fast_str, false, false) -- setnewvalue and wantminimalstate = false then obj_chunk = r.SNM_GetFastString(fast_str) end r.SNM_DeleteFastString(fast_str) if obj_chunk then return true, obj_chunk end end

function Get_Parent_Of_MCP_First_Uncollapsed_Folder(tr) -- tr argument is a pointer of a track to scroll to, if it happens to be a child of a collapsed folder -- return its parent track or first (from the left) uncollapsed parent of a nested folder -- (which itself is a parent of a collapsed folder) -- relies on GetObjChunk() function

-- Collect all parents of the found track to then find the first (leftmost) uncollapsed if any local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) local parents_t = {} for i = r.CSurf_TrackToID(tr, false)-2, 0, -1 do -- in reverse // mcpView false, allows to get it even if it's hidden in a collapsed folder // -2 to start from immediatedly preceding track as CSurf_TrackToID returns 1-based track index which is greater than the 0-based by 1 local tr = r.GetTrack(0,i) if tr == parent --and r.IsTrackVisible(tr, true) -- mixer true then -- and itself has a parent parents_t[#parents_t+1] = tr -- in the table the leftmost track is at the end parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) end end -- Find the leftmost uncollapsed parent, if any ((un)collapsing Mixer tracks must be done via chunk which is too cumbersome and isn't worth the effort for this script) for i = #parents_t, 1, -1 do -- in reverse since parent tracks were stored from right to left; if the table is empty the loop won't start local parent_tr = parents_t[i] local ret, chunk = GetObjChunk(parent_tr) if ret ~= 'err_mess' -- if parent track chunk is larger than 4.194303 Mb and no SWS extension to handle that to find out if it's collapsed and chunk:match('BUSCOMP %d (%d)') == '1' then -- collapsed return parent_tr -- as soon as uncollapsed parent is found end end

end

function Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(tr, wantMixer) -- wantMixer is boolean // in the script is only used for Arrange track evaluation local function get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(tr) local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) if parent and r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(parent, 'I_FOLDERCOMPACT') == 2 -- tiny children then return parent -- found // for the Mixer the return value is only used as a boolean to then run Get_First_MCP_Uncollapsed_ParentTrack(), for the Arrange the return value is used for scrolling to the parent elseif parent then -- continue evaluation return get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(parent) end end return wantMixer and r.CSurf_TrackToID(tr, true) == -1 -- mcpView true // when the track is inside a collaped MCP folder the function doesn't return its index // r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER') doesn't work this way so not suitable or not wantMixer and get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(tr) end

if not Reminder_Off(REMINDER_OFF) then return r.defer(function() do return end end) end

LIST_SENDS = #LIST_SENDS:gsub(' ','') > 0 LIST_RECEIVES = #LIST_RECEIVES:gsub(' ','') > 0 BOTH = not LIST_SENDS and not LIST_RECEIVES or LIST_SENDS and LIST_RECEIVES DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST = #DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST:gsub(' ','') > 0 DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON = #DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON:gsub(' ','') > 0 local supported_build = tonumber(r.GetAppVersion():match('[%d%.]+')) >= 6.37

local mixer_vis = r.GetToggleCommandStateEx(0,40078) == 1 -- View: Toggle mixer visible // when docked and the docker is closed the state is OFF so 'View: Show docker' toggle state doesn't need to be additionally evaluated local x, y = r.GetMousePosition() local tr, idx = r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) local tr_pointer, elm = table.unpack(supported_build and {r.GetThingFromPoint(x, y)} or {nil}) local over_sendlist = elm == 'mcp.sendlist' local over_io_button = elm == 'tcp.io' local tr = not tr and r.GetSelectedTrack(0,0) or tr

if not tr then Error_Tooltip('\n\n no valid track \n\n') return r.defer(function() do return end end)
elseif r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) and supported_build and (mixer_vis and DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST and not over_sendlist
or not mixer_vis and DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON and not over_io_button)
then return r.defer(function() do return end end)
end

if LIST_SENDS or BOTH then
snd_t, snd_menu_t = Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, 0, mixer_vis)
    if snd_menu_t then snd_menu_t[1] = 'Sends:||' end
end

if LIST_RECEIVES or BOTH then
rcv_t, rcv_menu_t = Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, -1, mixer_vis)
    if rcv_menu_t then rcv_menu_t[1] = 'Receives:||' end
end

local sep = snd_menu_t and rcv_menu_t and '|' or '' local esc = (snd_menu_t or rcv_menu_t) and '|c l o s e' or '' local menu = (snd_menu_t and table.concat(snd_menu_t) or '')..sep..(rcv_menu_t and table.concat(rcv_menu_t) or '')..esc

if #menu > 0 then
local tr_idx = math.floor(r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')) -- to truncate decimal 0 // OR (r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')..''):match('(.+)%.')
local ret, name = r.GetSetMediaTrackInfo_String(tr, 'P_NAME', '', false) -- setNewValue false
-- before build 6.82 gfx.showmenu didn't work on Windows without gfx.init
-- https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=280658#25
-- https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=280658&page=2#44
    if tonumber(r.GetAppVersion():match('[%d%.]+')) < 6.82 then gfx.init('', 0, 0) end
gfx.x, gfx.y = gfx.mouse_x, gfx.mouse_y
local idx = gfx.showmenu('#Track # '..tr_idx..' — '..name..'||'..menu)
    if idx > 2 then -- 2 to account for 'Track #' menu title and a submenu title which don't have corresponding fields in snd_t and rcv_t tables, otherwise click on these menu entrues may produce an error
    local idx = idx-2 -- -2 to restore the index count valid for snd_t and rcv_t tables
    local tr = snd_t and rcv_t and (idx <= #snd_t and snd_t[idx] or idx > #snd_t and rcv_t[idx-#snd_t-1]) -- when idx > #snd_t it's either corresponds to receive menu title or to rcv_t fields hence -1 to explude the title
    or snd_t and snd_t[idx] or rcv_t and rcv_t[idx]

        if tr then -- tr var can be nil if 'close' menu item has been selected

        local tr_upd = mixer_vis and (Get_Parent_Of_MCP_First_Uncollapsed_Folder(tr) or tr) or not mixer_vis and (Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(tr) or tr) -- if track is a folder child scroll to its leftmost uncollapsed parent (to the leftmost parent of a collapsed folder who itself is not collapsed) if it's a child of a nested collapsed folder in the Mixer, in Arrange even when the folder is collapsed to tiny children selected track is still visible hence in Arrange scrolls to the actual track in the middle of the tracklist // tr_upd can be either the same tr or its parent

        local tr_vis = r.IsTrackVisible(tr, mixer_vis)
        local tr_upd_vis = r.IsTrackVisible(tr_upd, mixer_vis)
        local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr)
        local tr_parent_vis = parent and r.IsTrackVisible(parent, true) -- mixer true

        -- IF TRACK IS HIDDEN AND A CHILD IN ARRANGE OR IN A COLLAPSED FOLDER IN MIXER NO SCROLLING TO ITS PARENT OR FIRST VISIBLE COLLAPSED GRANDPARENT
        -- otherwise always select the original track even if scrolling to its parent, so that when the folder is uncollapsed it's clear what the destinaition track is
            if mixer_vis and tr_vis then -- only scroll to the track be it the target track or its parent if it's visible in the Mixer; if the track is visible while being a child in a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden (wich hides all its children), scroll to the first visible grandparent whose folder is collapsed
                if tr ~= tr_upd and not tr_upd_vis --or not tr_parent_vis
                then
                Error_Tooltip('\n\n the track parent is hidden \n\n') -- track is visible and inside a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden, unlike in the Arrange in the Mixer such children tracks aren't visible
                return r.defer(function() do return end end) end
            r.SetMixerScroll(tr_upd)
            r.SetOnlyTrackSelected(tr)
            elseif not mixer_vis and tr_vis then
                if tr ~= tr_upd and not tr_upd_vis then Error_Tooltip('\n\nthe track (grand)parent is hidden\n\n') end -- track is visible and inside a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden
            r.SetOnlyTrackSelected(tr)
            r.Main_OnCommand(40913,0) -- Track: Vertical scroll selected tracks into view
            end

            if err and tr ~= tr_upd and (not tr_upd_vis or not tr_parent_vis) then
            local err = mixer_vis and 'the track and its parent \n\n          are hidden' or 'the track parent is hidden'
            Error_Tooltip('\n\n '..err..' \n\n') -- when parent of a collapsed folder is hidden
            elseif not tr_vis then Error_Tooltip('\n\n the track is hidden \n\n') end

        end
    end
gfx.quit()
else
    if BOTH then mess = 'no sends and no receives'
    else
        if LIST_SENDS then mess = 'no sends'
        elseif LIST_RECEIVES then mess = 'no receives'
        end
    end
Error_Tooltip('\n\n '..mess..' \n\n')
end

do return r.defer(function() do return end end) end

[Lo-lo78]

This is the older version that didn't read the main Reaper window: Sorry I won't send these long messages anymore: --[[ ReaScript name: Navigate to track send destination or receive source track via menu Author: BuyOne Website: https://forum.cockos.com/member.php?u=134058 Version: 1.0 Changelog: Initial release Licence: WTFPL REAPER: at least v5.962 About: As far as going to send destination track is concerned the script is an alternative to the native feature accessible in the TCP/MCP send slot right click menu. It lists all send destinations in a single menu along with their basic information.

    In addition the script provides a facility to go to 
    receive source tracks which isn't available natively.

    The menu lists send destination / receive source track
    index, name (if any), number of sends/receives routed
    from/to the given track, whether send destination / receive 
    source track is a child in a collapsed folder (-c) and 
    whether it's hidden in the currently active context (-h) 
    which is either the Arrange view or the Mixer.

    The currently active context is determined by the Mixer
    visibility. If visible the target track will be scrolled
    to in the Mixer, otherwise it will be scrolled to in 
    the Arrange view.

    When the script is run via a shortcut, it displays
    sends/receives menu of a track under mouse cursor.
    A click on the send or receive menu item makes the tracklist
    scroll to the corresponding track and select it.
    In the Mixer such track ends up at the leftmost position,
    in the Arrange view - in the middle of the tracklist. 

    If the send destination / receive source track happens to 
    be inside a collapsed folder in the Mixer, its parent or the 
    leftmost visible grandparent track of a collapsed folder its 
    parent is a child in (if any) is scrolled into view instead.  
    If the track is visible in the Mixer and happens to be in a
    collapsed folder whose parent track is hidden, the leftmost
    visible grandparent track of a collapsed folder its parent
    is a child in (if any) is scrolled into view.  
    The send destination / receive source track is selected even
    if its (grand)parents are scrolled into view, so in case it's 
    inside a collapsed folder it's easy to pick it out after 
    uncollapsing the folder.  

    If there's no track under mouse cursor the script looks 
    for the first selected track. Thus it can also be run from 
    a toolbar or a menu in which case the relevant track must 
    be selected.

    If there're more than one send to or receive from 
    a particular track, the total of such sends/receives 
    is displayed in square brackets next to the destination 
    track entry in the menu. This if purely for information.

    To close the menu without action click elsewhere with 
    the mouse or click 'Esc' key on the keyboard or click 
    'close' menu item at the bottom.

]]

---

------------------------------ USER SETTINGS --------------------------------

-- To enable the following settings insert any alphanumeric character -- between the quotes.

-- Enable this setting to permanently -- prevent USER SETTINGS reminder pop-up REMINDER_OFF = "1"

-- Both settings are valid if both are filled out or both are empty; -- it's recommended to have both valid because this will allow easy -- navigation between send/receive source and destination tracks LIST_SENDS = "" LIST_RECEIVES = ""

-- The following settings are supported in REAPER builds 6.37 and later;

-- if enabled, when the Mixer context is active -- the menu will only be called if the mouse cursor -- hovers over the MCP send list, -- in all other cases it's enough that it hover over the track DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST = ""

-- if enabled, when the Arrange view context is active -- the menu will only be called if the mouse cursor -- hovers over the TCP I/O button, -- in all other cases it's enough that it hover over the track DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON = ""

---

-------------------------- END OF USER SETTINGS -----------------------------

local r = reaper

function Msg(param, cap) -- caption second or none local cap = cap and type(cap) == 'string' and #cap > 0 and cap..' = ' or '' reaper.ShowConsoleMsg(cap..tostring(param)..'\n') end

function Reminder_Off(REMINDEROFF) local function gap(n) -- number of repeats, integer local n = not n and 0 or tonumber(n) and math.abs(math.floor(n)) or 0 return string.rep(' ',n) -- return (' '):rep(n) end local , scr_name, scr_sect_ID, cmdID, ,, = r.get_action_context() local scr_name = scr_name:match('([^\/]+)%.%w+') -- without path and extension --local cmd_ID = r.ReverseNamedCommandLookup(cmd_ID) -- to use instead of scr_name // just an idea local ret, state = r.GetProjExtState(0, scr_name, 'REMINDER_OFF') if #REMINDER_OFF:gsub(' ','') == 0 and ret == 0 then local resp = r.MB('\t'..gap(7)..'This is to make you aware\n\n'..gap(12)..'that the script includes USER SETTINGS\n\n'..gap(10)..'you might want to tailor to your workflow.\n\n'..gap(17)..'Clicking "OK" disables this prompt\n\n'..gap(8)..'for the current project (which will be saved).\n\n\t'..gap(6)..'To disable it permanently\n\n change the REMINDER_OFF setting inside the script.\n\n Select it the the Action list and click "Edit action..."', 'REMINDER', 1) if resp == 1 then r.SetProjExtState(0, scr_name, 'REMINDER_OFF', '1') r.Main_SaveProject(0, false) -- forceSaveAsIn false return true end else return true end end

function Error_Tooltip(text) local x, y = r.GetMousePosition() --r.TrackCtl_SetToolTip(text:upper(), x, y, true) -- topmost true local tr = r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) local time_init = r.time_precise() r.TrackCtl_SetToolTip(text:upper():gsub('.','%0 '), x, y, true) -- spaced out // topmost true repeat until tr and r.time_precise()-time_init >= 0.7 or not tr end

function Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, cat, mixer_vis) -- cat is number: < 0 receives, 0 sends; mixer_vis is booleand local parm = cat < 0 and 'P_SRCTRACK' or cat == 0 and 'P_DESTTRACK' local t, menu_t = {}, {''} -- empty string as a placeholder for menu titles, without it table.insert() would have to be used outside of the function instead of simply assigning the title to the field local dest_tr_init, dest_snd_cnt = nil, 0 for i = 0, r.GetTrackNumSends(tr, cat)-1 do local dest_tr = r.GetTrackSendInfo_Value(tr, cat, i, parm) -- local mute = r.GetTrackSendInfo_Value(tr, cat, i, 'B_MUTE') == 1 and ' -m' or '' local child_of_collapsed_folder = Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(dest_tr, mixer_vis) and ' -c' or '' local is_hidden = not r.IsTrackVisible(dest_tr, mixer_vis) and ' -h' or '' local data = child_of_collapsed_folder..is_hidden if dest_tr ~= dest_tr_init then t[#t+1] = dest_tr -- local tr_idx = r.CSurf_TrackToID(dest_tr, true) -- mpcView true // unsuitable since doesn't return index of tracks hidden within collapsed folders local tr_idx = (r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(dest_tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')..''):match('(.+)%.') -- truncate trailing decimal 0 local ret, name_generic = r.GetTrackName(dest_tr) -- difficult to evaluate alone since ret is true even without custom name local ret, name = r.GetSetMediaTrackInfo_String(dest_tr, 'P_NAME', '', false) -- setNewValue false local name = #name > 0 and tr_idx..' '..name or name_generic -- if no name the format is "Track N" menu_t[#menu_t+1] = name..'|' dest_tr_init = dest_tr dest_snd_cnt = 1 else -- update count for the dest track in the menu entry dest_snd_cnt = dest_snd_cnt+1 local entry = menu_t[#menu_t] local name = entry:match('(.+) %[') or entry:match('(.+)|') -- entry with snd/rcv count or the very first entry menu_t[#menu_t] = name..' ['..dest_snd_cnt..']'..(data or '')..'|' -- the data is always added to the end of the menu entry end

end

if #t > 0 then return t, menu_t end

end

local function GetObjChunk(obj) -- https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=193686 -- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EUGEN27771/ReaScripts_Test/master/Functions/FXChain -- https://github.com/EUGEN27771/ReaScripts/blob/master/Various/FXRack/Modules/FXChain.lua if not obj then return end local tr = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'MediaTrack') local item = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'MediaItem') local env = r.ValidatePtr(obj, 'TrackEnvelope') -- works for take envelope as well -- Try standard function ----- local t = tr and {r.GetTrackStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or item and {r.GetItemStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or env and {r.GetEnvelopeStateChunk(obj, '', false)} -- isundo = false // https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181000#9 local ret, obj_chunk = table.unpack(t) -- OR -- local ret, obj_chunk = table.unpack(tr and {r.GetTrackStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or item and {r.GetItemStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or env and {r.GetEnvelopeStateChunk(obj, '', false)} or {x,x}) -- isundo = false // https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181000#9 if ret and obj_chunk and #obj_chunk >= 4194303 and not r.APIExists('SNM_CreateFastString') then return 'err_mess' elseif ret and obj_chunk and #obj_chunk < 4194303 then return ret, obj_chunk -- 4194303 bytes (4.194303 Mb) = (4096 kb 1024 bytes) - 1 byte // since build 4.20 http://reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=4x end -- If chunk_size >= max_size, use wdl fast string -- local fast_str = r.SNM_CreateFastString('') if r.SNM_GetSetObjectState(obj, fast_str, false, false) -- setnewvalue and wantminimalstate = false then obj_chunk = r.SNM_GetFastString(fast_str) end r.SNM_DeleteFastString(fast_str) if obj_chunk then return true, obj_chunk end end

function Get_Parent_Of_MCP_First_Uncollapsed_Folder(tr) -- tr argument is a pointer of a track to scroll to, if it happens to be a child of a collapsed folder -- return its parent track or first (from the left) uncollapsed parent of a nested folder -- (which itself is a parent of a collapsed folder) -- relies on GetObjChunk() function

-- Collect all parents of the found track to then find the first (leftmost) uncollapsed if any local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) local parents_t = {} for i = r.CSurf_TrackToID(tr, false)-2, 0, -1 do -- in reverse // mcpView false, allows to get it even if it's hidden in a collapsed folder // -2 to start from immediatedly preceding track as CSurf_TrackToID returns 1-based track index which is greater than the 0-based by 1 local tr = r.GetTrack(0,i) if tr == parent --and r.IsTrackVisible(tr, true) -- mixer true then -- and itself has a parent parents_t[#parents_t+1] = tr -- in the table the leftmost track is at the end parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) end end -- Find the leftmost uncollapsed parent, if any ((un)collapsing Mixer tracks must be done via chunk which is too cumbersome and isn't worth the effort for this script) for i = #parents_t, 1, -1 do -- in reverse since parent tracks were stored from right to left; if the table is empty the loop won't start local parent_tr = parents_t[i] local ret, chunk = GetObjChunk(parent_tr) if ret ~= 'err_mess' -- if parent track chunk is larger than 4.194303 Mb and no SWS extension to handle that to find out if it's collapsed and chunk:match('BUSCOMP %d (%d)') == '1' then -- collapsed return parent_tr -- as soon as uncollapsed parent is found end end

end

function Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(tr, wantMixer) -- wantMixer is boolean // in the script is only used for Arrange track evaluation local function get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(tr) local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr) if parent and r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(parent, 'I_FOLDERCOMPACT') == 2 -- tiny children then return parent -- found // for the Mixer the return value is only used as a boolean to then run Get_First_MCP_Uncollapsed_ParentTrack(), for the Arrange the return value is used for scrolling to the parent elseif parent then -- continue evaluation return get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(parent) end end return wantMixer and r.CSurf_TrackToID(tr, true) == -1 -- mcpView true // when the track is inside a collaped MCP folder the function doesn't return its index // r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER') doesn't work this way so not suitable or not wantMixer and get_first_collapsed_tcp_fldr(tr) end

if not Reminder_Off(REMINDER_OFF) then return r.defer(function() do return end end) end

LIST_SENDS = #LIST_SENDS:gsub(' ','') > 0 LIST_RECEIVES = #LIST_RECEIVES:gsub(' ','') > 0 BOTH = not LIST_SENDS and not LIST_RECEIVES or LIST_SENDS and LIST_RECEIVES DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST = #DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST:gsub(' ','') > 0 DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON = #DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON:gsub(' ','') > 0 local supported_build = tonumber(r.GetAppVersion():match('(.+)/')) >= 6.37

local mixer_vis = r.GetToggleCommandStateEx(0,40078) == 1 -- View: Toggle mixer visible // when docked and the docker is closed the state is OFF so 'View: Show docker' toggle state doesn't need to be additionally evaluated local x, y = r.GetMousePosition() local tr, idx = r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) local tr_pointer, elm = table.unpack(supported_build and {r.GetThingFromPoint(x, y)} or {nil}) local over_sendlist = elm == 'mcp.sendlist' local over_io_button = elm == 'tcp.io' local tr = not tr and r.GetSelectedTrack(0,0) or tr

if not tr then Error_Tooltip('\n\n no valid track \n\n') return r.defer(function() do return end end)
elseif r.GetTrackFromPoint(x, y) and supported_build and (mixer_vis and DISPLAY_OVER_SEND_LIST and not over_sendlist
or not mixer_vis and DISPLAY_OVER_IO_BUTTON and not over_io_button)
then return r.defer(function() do return end end)
end

if LIST_SENDS or BOTH then
snd_t, snd_menu_t = Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, 0, mixer_vis)
    if snd_menu_t then snd_menu_t[1] = 'Sends:||' end
end

if LIST_RECEIVES or BOTH then
rcv_t, rcv_menu_t = Collect_Snds_Rcvs(tr, -1, mixer_vis)
    if rcv_menu_t then rcv_menu_t[1] = 'Receives:||' end
end

local sep = snd_menu_t and rcv_menu_t and '|' or '' local esc = (snd_menu_t or rcv_menu_t) and '|c l o s e' or '' local menu = (snd_menu_t and table.concat(snd_menu_t) or '')..sep..(rcv_menu_t and table.concat(rcv_menu_t) or '')..esc

if #menu > 0 then
local tr_idx = math.floor(r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')) -- to truncate decimal 0 // OR (r.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'IP_TRACKNUMBER')..''):match('(.+)%.')
gfx.init('',0,0)
gfx.x, gfx.y = gfx.mouse_x, gfx.mouse_y
local idx = gfx.showmenu('#Track # '..tr_idx..'||'..menu)
    if idx > 2 then -- 2 to account for 'Track #' menu title and a submenu title which don't have corresponding fields in snd_t and rcv_t tables, otherwise click on these menu entrues may produce an error
    local idx = idx-2 -- -2 to restore the index count valid for snd_t and rcv_t tables
    local tr = snd_t and rcv_t and (idx <= #snd_t and snd_t[idx] or idx > #snd_t and rcv_t[idx-#snd_t-1]) -- when idx > #snd_t it's either corresponds to receive menu title or to rcv_t fields hence -1 to explude the title
    or snd_t and snd_t[idx] or rcv_t and rcv_t[idx]

        if tr then -- tr var can be nil if 'close' menu item has been selected

        local tr_upd = mixer_vis and (Get_Parent_Of_MCP_First_Uncollapsed_Folder(tr) or tr) or not mixer_vis and (Track_Is_Child_Of_Collapsed_Folder(tr) or tr) -- if track is a folder child scroll to its leftmost uncollapsed parent (to the leftmost parent of a collapsed folder who itself is not collapsed) if it's a child of a nested collapsed folder in the Mixer, in Arrange even when the folder is collapsed to tiny children selected track is still visible hence in Arrange scrolls to the actual track in the middle of the tracklist // tr_upd can be either the same tr or its parent

        local tr_vis = r.IsTrackVisible(tr, mixer_vis)
        local tr_upd_vis = r.IsTrackVisible(tr_upd, mixer_vis)
        local parent = r.GetParentTrack(tr)
        local tr_parent_vis = parent and r.IsTrackVisible(parent, true) -- mixer true

        -- IF TRACK IS HIDDEN AND A CHILD IN ARRANGE OR IN A COLLAPSED FOLDER IN MIXER NO SCROLLING TO ITS PARENT OR FIRST VISIBLE COLLAPSED GRANDPARENT
        -- otherwise always select the original track even if scrolling to its parent, so that when the folder is uncollapsed it's clear what the destinaition track is
            if mixer_vis and tr_vis then -- only scroll to the track be it the target track or its parent if it's visible in the Mixer; if the track is visible while being a child in a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden (wich hides all its children), scroll to the first visible grandparent whose folder is collapsed
                if tr ~= tr_upd and not tr_upd_vis --or not tr_parent_vis
                then
                Error_Tooltip('\n\n the track parent is hidden \n\n') -- track is visible and inside a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden, unlike in the Arrange in the Mixer such children tracks aren't visible
                return r.defer(function() do return end end) end
            r.SetMixerScroll(tr_upd)
            r.SetOnlyTrackSelected(tr)
            elseif not mixer_vis and tr_vis then
                if tr ~= tr_upd and not tr_upd_vis then Error_Tooltip('\n\nthe track (grand)parent is hidden\n\n') end -- track is visible and inside a collapsed folder whose parent is hidden
            r.SetOnlyTrackSelected(tr)
            r.Main_OnCommand(40913,0) -- Track: Vertical scroll selected tracks into view
            end

            if err and tr ~= tr_upd and (not tr_upd_vis or not tr_parent_vis) then
            local err = mixer_vis and 'the track and its parent \n\n          are hidden' or 'the track parent is hidden'
            Error_Tooltip('\n\n '..err..' \n\n') -- when parent of a collapsed folder is hidden
            elseif not tr_vis then Error_Tooltip('\n\n the track is hidden \n\n') end

        end
    end
gfx.quit()
else
    if BOTH then mess = 'no sends and no receives'
    else
        if LIST_SENDS then mess = 'no sends'
        elseif LIST_RECEIVES then mess = 'no receives'
        end
    end
Error_Tooltip('\n\n '..mess..' \n\n')
end

do return r.defer(function() do return end end) end

[jcsteh]

I don't really understand what changed in the script and i don't really have time to read through all of both versions to figure it out. :) What I will say is that if you display a menu, then you close the menu, that is always going to read the REAPER window because that window gets focus. So if the message gets spoken before the window gets focused, the focus report is going to override the message. The only way to fix that would be to delay the OSARA report action slightly.

That said, back on topic for OSARA, I do wonder whether it would be reasonable to add an option to jump to the target track in the context menu for some of the send parameters. For example, you could go to 32 reverb send volume in the Track Parameters dialog, then open the context menu, then choose "Move to send track".

[Lo-lo78]

It's strange because in version 1.0 of the buyone script the OSARA action: "OSARA: Report track/item/time/MIDI selection (depending on focus)" it worked in the custom action with the action: "Script: BuyOne_Navigate to track send destination or receive source track via menu.lua" Now with the new version 1.2 of the buyone script the feedback of the OSARA action is deleted from the title of the main Reaper window. I also tried "Wait" actions but in the custom action they had no effect. Just to delay the Reaper main window message. @jcsteh ...back on topic for OSARA, I do wonder whether it would be reasonable to add an option to jump to the target track in the context menu for some of the send parameters. For example, you could go to 32 reverb send volume in the Track Parameters dialog, then open the context menu, then choose "Move to send track". @Lo-lo78 It would be very nice! 🙂 For both sends and receives?

[ScottChesworth]

@Lo-lo78, check RWP, I've suggested two ways of getting the feedback you want there.

[ScottChesworth]

I do wonder whether it would be reasonable to add an option to jump to the target track in the context menu for some of the send parameters. For example, you could go to 32 reverb send volume in the Track Parameters dialog, then open the context menu, then choose "Move to send track".

That would be very excellent!

[jcsteh]

Could you live with this option only being exposed for source audio channel and destination audio channel? It's relatively easy to do it there, but significantly more work to do it for the other send parameters. I can't really justify this from a UX perspective, though. :(

[ScottChesworth]

What about if it's under the More button instead of the slider context menus? Seems like less work overall and same UX on both platforms.

[jcsteh]

The More button and the slider context menu are the same beast, just different entry points. They both apply to specific parameters only.

[jcsteh]

Note that the More button is only enabled for a parameter where it is relevant.

[ScottChesworth]

Derp, ignore me, forgot the button is so contextual.