Detect mate with Eval?

[ChessOverflow]

position fen rnbqk1nr/1ppp1ppp/p7/2b1p3/2B1P3/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K1NR w KQkq - 0 4
eval
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|   r   |   n   |   b   |   q   |   k   |       |   n   |   r   |
|   -613|   -484|   -576|  -1074|       |       |   -495|   -655|
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|       |   p   |   p   |   p   |       |   p   |   p   |   p   |
|       |   -215|   -171|   -138|       |   -187|   -201|    -80|
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|   p   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
|   -128|       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|       |       |   b   |       |   p   |       |       |       |
|       |       |   -587|       |   -246|       |       |       |
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|       |       |   B   |       |   P   |       |       |       |
|       |       |   +580|       |   +246|       |       |       |
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|       |       |       |       |       |   Q   |       |       |
|       |       |       |       |       |   +968|       |       |
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|   P   |   P   |   P   |   P   |       |   P   |   P   |   P   |
|   +109|   +167|   +201|   +154|       |   +168|   +162|    +57|
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
|   R   |   N   |   B   |       |   K   |       |   N   |   R   |
|   +570|   +447|   +532|       |       |       |   +471|   +598|
+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
Score: 38cp (white)

Is it possible to detect checkmate from evaluation?

[jhonnold]

That is the job of search.

[ChessOverflow]

But NN Can evaluate difficult positions. Should not be able to evaluate simple positions?

https://github.com/jhonnold/berserk/blob/25bd00c443dc26b7a15ba93da867198fbfa84c11/src/search.h#L26

Using a numerical value instead of alphabet mate does not solve this problem?

[jhonnold]

That is the job of search.

[ChessOverflow]

Unfortunately, instead of giving the answer to my question, you closed it without any logical explanation. We will see that in the future berserk rating will drop due to not paying attention to issues. Good luck

[tissatussa]

@jhonnold well done closing this Issue without further comment .. i think @ChessOverflow is some troll ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(slang) ) .. best is to never react, they shouldn't deserve any response 'cause they're not serious or insane or both .. this might even be an AI, triggering any reaction !?

[ i shouldn't have responded to this Issue 'cause we've to avoid any attention ]