Pandoc-style citations

[tarleb]

I am the maintainer of Pandoc's Org-mode reader and want to improve the reader's citation support. org-ref seems to have evolved to the default referencing method, I am working towards enabling recognition of the org-ref-syntax with Pandoc.

Pandoc currently has its own citation syntax, designed by jgm for markdown and adapted to org-mode. It would be great if org-ref and Pandoc could understand each other's format.

Pandoc's current syntax is

[@citationKey]

for simple keys (LaTeX: \cite{citationKey} and

[see @tarleb p. 34-35]

for more complex citations (\citep[see][ p. 34-35]{tarleb}).

There is also a outstanding issue (jgm/pandoc#1978) requesting support for @citeKey syntax, which is also supported in Pandoc's Markdown implementation. It's nice and succinct syntax, yet I'm unsure if this should be implemented in the context of Org-mode; your opinions on this would be appreciated.

[jkitchin]

I don't see much hope for org-ref being aware of other syntax until the new citation syntax in org-mode is in the master. I think it would be similar to @citeKey. There was a lot of work in that direction, but I am not sure it has led to a definitive solution yet. The need for a citeproc has help things up a bit. I believe someone was looking into the pandoc citeproc. I even started a citeproc project for org-ref, but I am not working on it much now.

org-ref uses org-links right now because they are org-elements, which lets it use a lot of the org-machinery to manipulate them, export them, and make them functional, without a lot (besides requiring org-ref) of intervention from users. None of this would work without that.

The simplest citation is just cite:key

The link syntax is pretty limited, but can handle this:

\citep[see][ p. 34-35]{tarleb}

like this:

[[citep:tarleb][see:: p. 34-35]]

This: [see @tarleb p. 34-35] would be: [[cite:tarleb][see :: p. 34-35]] I think.

That is about as sophisticated as is possible with the link capability.

I am not sure I have answered your questions.

Albert Krewinkel writes:

I am the maintainer of Pandoc's Org-mode reader and want to improve the reader's citation support. org-ref seems to have evolved to the default referencing method, I am working towards enabling recognition of the org-ref-syntax with Pandoc.

Pandoc currently has its own citation syntax, designed by jgm for markdown and adapted to org-mode. It would be great if org-ref and Pandoc could understand each other's format.

Pandoc's current syntax is

[@citationKey]

for simple keys (LaTeX: \cite{citationKey} and

[see @tarleb p. 34-35]

for more complex citations (\citep[see][ p. 34-35]{tarleb}).

There is also a outstanding issue (jgm/pandoc#1978) requesting support for @citeKey syntax, which is also supported in Pandoc's Markdown implementation. It's nice and succinct syntax, yet I'm unsure if this should be implemented in the context of Org-mode; your opinions on this would be appreciated.

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[tarleb]

Thanks for the feedback. I guess you are right about wanting to wait till the official org-mode syntax finalizes. I'll close this issue for now.

Pandoc support of org-ref syntax won't be complete for now, only cite:, citep, citet, and citeyear are supported (jgm/pandoc#2950). I will add more natbib commands later on.

Thanks again and happy hacking.

[bdarcus]

Do you know the status of the org-mode official work? It seems, almost four years later, the citation branch is still WIP?

They really need an issue tracker.

[jkitchin]

I believe it is still wip. I haven't heard anything about it moving to master yet.