jocosocial / twitarr

This is the V2 version of Twit-arr, a social communications server for the JoCo Cruise. It is discontinued.
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Feed re-design recomendations #9

Open Tratcher opened 6 years ago

Tratcher commented 6 years ago

For a number of reason the design of the main tweet feed should be revisited:

Proposals:

Overall, having an opt-in content model should help reduce the noise and may also help reduce the reliance on moderation features (e.g. bocking, reporting).

chicazul commented 6 years ago

The only issue I have with discontinuing the universal feed is discoverability—how do you find people to follow? A week is not long enough to organically grow a feed. I think dropping the universal feed entirely will lead to a large drop in usage. Which may be desired?

That said, I found many of the sane problems with noise this year and wished I could create a curated feed, with the universal feed as a backup I can look at if I choose instead of the default screen.

Tratcher commented 6 years ago

Yes discovery will be harder but I expect it to still be possible via a few different network effects:

grundoon commented 6 years ago

Strongly opposed to nuking the main stream or even making it non-default. The overriding non-starter on that for me: who will see a cry for help, a request for support?

Tratcher commented 6 years ago

Who can see it now in the flood?

RangerRick commented 6 years ago

Still worth having for discovery purposes. I do think we should probably have a secondary feed of only people you follow/favorite. (twitarr already has user-favoriting, just not in the feed AFAIK)

RangerRick commented 6 years ago

Also, blocking/muting functionality will make a difference for getting rid of "noise" too. Ideally we could also mute words or hashtags.

grundoon commented 6 years ago

Everybody, in theory. A person in crisis should not have to find "the right place". Twitarr serves all; filters serve the individual.

grundoon commented 6 years ago

Also @Tratcher, please elaborate on "issues with sea mail". (There were no problem reports submitted of which I am aware.)

Tratcher commented 6 years ago

Users on the Android client were unable to initiate sea mail conversations, they could only be initiated via the web app. Once initiated everything worked normally. That's a topic for another thread, I was only mentioning it as a source of noise. Even without the sea mail issues there are often people using the main feed for direct communication.

chicazul commented 6 years ago

I think the universal feed is one of the main ways newer/shyer attendees can form connections and serendipitous plans can form, but I am weighing that against the people who said we valued our toy more than their ability to feel safe.

If we added a feed of favourites and the ability to mute keywords, twitarr would be my ideal social media platform. Based on our discussed moderation options I am tentatively optimistic about making everyone feel secure using the main feed.

RangerRick commented 6 years ago

The android client bug was a CruiseMonkey one, not a Twitarr one, so doesn't really apply here.

joey commented 6 years ago

I agree that we should keep the "universal feed". Specifically regarding the someone in crisis looking for help, I saw such a message and was able to help someone through a tough time.

Also, I agree with everything @chicazul wrote. Putting all of those features together would be my ideal social media platform as well.

hendricksond commented 6 years ago

I also think the main feed should stay. Extending the "favorite this user" functionality into a second personally-curated feed is a great idea too - maybe we should change it from "favorite" to "follow," though.

Muting keywords/hashtags would go a long way to cleaning up the noise in the main feed. Would it be worth it to have a setting to temporarily shut off all your mutes, for the times you want the firehose?

hendricksond commented 5 years ago

Looking through this again, and after working on Twitarr for a bit, a curated feed of starred users is already available and working. See Issue #107 , the goal is to make this easier to access before the cruise.