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Betting fake money on top of live Twitch streams
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Streamer outreach #182

Closed jonwalch closed 4 years ago

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

From Thomas Assatly -

Streamer outreach can be really difficult. I've tried a lot of different things on different games with varying results, and I've learned a lot while doing it.

The first thing I would tell you to do is avoid using email. I feel like it's too easy for streamers to ignore, and many times they never even see it due to spam filters and such. My preferred method of contact is Discord. I could write a book on Discord messaging tips and tricks alone, but the short version is find the link to their server, join up, and send them a message. This is a lot more manual than emailing, but it produces a lot more responses.

Secondly, a lot of it has to do with the size of the streamer you're contacting. The larger the streamer, the more personalized you have to make the message in order to get noticed. As a former full-time Twitch Partner myself, I know just how many messages a streamer can receive. PIcking out something specific about their stream and mentioning it can often engage them.

Finally, what benefits are you offering to the streamers you are contacting? This might be the most important one. Smaller streamers will often be excited about any new thing, as they feel it will give them a leg up with regard to growth. However, once you get to streamers who are even 100 concurrent viewers or larger, it's important to be clear about the benefits of what you are offering.

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

Already emailed: Summit1g - no answer Hiko - no answer Valkia - polite no immortal - flat fee only

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

ilicor (bet on birdfood's stream) - twitch DM

Ilicor was the only streamer of interest based on our two runs with birdfood, i looked through all the other betters

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

Hey [person], I'm Jon and I'm one of the founders of Whiplash! https://whiplash.gg is a free "betting" game where users can bet fake money on what happens during a stream. Some examples are [personalized propositions]. We drew inspiration from https://www.saltybet.com/. We're currently partnered with https://www.twitch.tv/birdfood and we cover his stream every Saturday night (PT). Here's a video demo from a few months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWoF8gGRjc&feature=youtu.be I think we might be a great fit to grow together - Are you free for a quick chat today?

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

OnyemachiTTV (dmed on twitch)

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

TheCupp - watched his stream for a game or two (built rapport, followed, talked a little about whiplash) and then played two games with him. Then sent this email:

Hey Jessie,

This is Jon (akoozaBazooka on Twitch / BazookaOmNom on Valorant). I had a ton of fun playing with you today!

I told you a bit about how I'm working on https://whiplash.gg! Think of Whiplash as a platform for games on top of your Twitch stream. I'd love to get your feedback on our website!

Here's an older video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWoF8gGRjc&feature=youtu.be

It works best when we're actually playing it, let me know and I can set up a live demo for you!

Best, Jon

also sent this

Oh I almost forgot! We're currently partnered with https://www.twitch.tv/birdfood and we cover his stream every Saturday night (PT)!

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

Monday 10:01:01 AM akoozaBazooka: Hey ilicor, thanks for participating in Whiplash on Saturday night! Do you have any interest in Whiplash on top of your streams? Today, 12:46:42 AM ilicor: YES OF COURSE !! Today, 10:11:23 AM ilicor: WhipLash is a cool idea ! akoozaBazooka: Awesome! Do you want to do a test stream sometime this week?

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

12:17Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: !discord 12:17ModeratorVerifiedStreamElements: https://discord.gg/QeS5aKj 12:18Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: HOWS IT HANGING 12:18VIP4-Month Subscriber (3-Month Badge)BerryGodiaa: @King_Velarde i top fragged last game 12:18Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: hahaha 12:18VIP4-Month Subscriber (3-Month Badge)BerryGodiaa: in honor of u check the vod 12:19Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: yo Rillo I'm also a software engineer dude 12:19Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: I have a start up because I'm insane 12:19Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: Yeah we're raising money right now, so stress is p high right now ahahah 12:20VIP5-Month Subscriber (3-Month Badge)Gifter Leader 1King_Velarde: @BerryGodiaa PROUD OF YOU 12:20Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: A metagame on top of Twitch streams 12:20Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: Can give you a quick demo after this game if you wanna take a 30 second peek 12:20Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: Cool 12:21Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: That's one idea yeah 12:21Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: It's basically betting fake money on what's going to happen on your stream 12:21Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: "Rillo gets 2 or more headshots this round" 12:221-Month Subscribercheer 1mikeylokey: bet channel points 12:22Twitch PrimeakoozaBazooka: I'll send you the link when you're done playing and I can show you it in real time

Rillo showed it on stream, he likes it, fans liked it. Emailed him and we'll set up some time to talk more.

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

@jonwalch could you check out "mraustino" tmrw? Kid just got featured on @GamersDoingThings on insta and his VODs have like 300 views on them.... might blow up. Currently only has 700 followers

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

Smash targets from Nathan:

Probably big: MKLeo BestNess Samsora Hungrybox ESAM NairoMK Void AlphaRad (he does a lot of non-Smash as well)

Probably Smaller: Marss Tweek Armada

One approach would just be to go down the PGR ranking of top Smash players and look up their Twitch streams if they have one. A majority of top players do. https://smash.gg/rankings/super-smash-bros-ultimate/series/panda-global-rankings-ultimate

jonwalch commented 4 years ago

238 sub issue

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago
PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

TeamSp00ky | Asked about Wednesday on Monday and again on Tuesday. Connected with Sabin (guy on Team Sp00ky) to explore details on Matcherino TheCanadienEh | Confirmed that he wants to do more. Asked for a time Depreshnn | No response from Monday. Asked again about what times he is streaming on Tuesday and Friday BestNess | Scheduling for Monday. Touch base Sunday to make sure we're good. Sending him extension and text. tudsoNN | Chatted with Dawid, Knacks CEO. Getting back to them with a video and a listed description Kevin Wallace | Dude was super unenthused? He didn't want to see a demo because he was on phone. Asked for a write up

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cXULuneflTr8w2_BeKfRSlppOv1JOgBo/edit#gid=1829735827

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

New thinking on funnel:

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

Emailed 15 big Valorant streamers

Responses from TheRealzBlueWater ACEU's agent

PeterHKang commented 4 years ago
PeterHKang commented 4 years ago

Brax and Ader agent tomorrow. Spent time reading sales best practices and writing pitch script

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yutnSibBfJBG-0vg9rVpf9QYwLfL_SBtPrtYpUDAZ9Q/edit