[general] Update from PHP 5.4

[mbabker]

All Joomla web properties are running PHP 5.4. PHP 5.4 is no longer supported by the PHP project. Joomla's web properties should be updated to a supported stable version of PHP. Joomla 2.5 and 3.x will run without errors (from core) on PHP 5.6, as will our Framework based websites (the Framework site itself and the issue tracker). Software that will not function on supported PHP versions needs to be identified for upgrade and placed on a fast track for the upgrade to be completed.

Known sites that will fail without core hacks on an upgraded PHP version:

• help.joomla.org (Joomla 1.0 install, don't confuse this with the /proxy subinstall for the help screens which is on Joomla 3.4)
• community.joomla.org (Joomla 1.5 install)
• showcase.joomla.org (Joomla 1.5 install)

Sites on server needing update:

• [x] api.joomla.org
• [x] appscdn.joomla.org/webapps (Install from Web)
• [x] certification.joomla.org
• [x] community.joomla.org
• [x] conference.joomla.org
• [x] docs.joomla.org
• [x] exam.joomla.org
• [x] help.joomla.org
• [x] magazine.joomla.org
• [x] opensourcematters.org
• [x] resources.joomla.org
• [x] shop.joomla.org
• [x] showcase.joomla.org
• [x] tm.joomla.org
• [x] vel.joomla.org
• [x] volunteers.joomla.org
• [x] joom.la

[wilsonge]

OK so let's replace help.joomla.org with a single php file to server the help screens .htaccess redirect the index2.php to index.php

[Radek-Suski]

Are there any plans to upgrade c.j.org or merge it with j.org ?

[mbabker]

The help site is offline now and replaced with a mini-app to handle the legacy help screens in 1.0 and 1.5 and give a simple landing page with navigation for web requests. So that's no longer an issue.

https://github.com/joomla-projects/offline-help.joomla.org

[brianteeman]

Do you think its worth adding a link to the docs site in the text Perhaps The Joomla Help Site has been taken offline please see docs.joomla.org.

[mbabker]

I'm always fair game for improvements on the sites, especially since I push a lot of MVP style stuff. I put that site's code on a GitHub repo for a reason.

[mbabker]

@joomla/webmasters This requires action ASAP. If a site cannot be upgraded past PHP 5.4, then it should either be moved to a legacy server or using Rochen's current setup the PHP versions for each domain managed at WHM/CPanel level instead of server wide. Also if the site is not being pegged for an update, there had better be a strong reason for it and someone needs to document what security measures are being taken to keep those sites safe. Considering there are properties running EOL software (Joomla 1.5) on EOL PHP versions, and the latest round of security issues which JSST felt important enough to patch for unsupported software, there are now significant security issues for running anything < PHP 5.6 and Joomla 3.4.7.

[Radek-Suski]

Could we have a check list of sites that aren't compatible. As I can see events site is running currently on 5.4.38

[mbabker]

For the Joomla installs, any remaining 1.5 sites are iffy on 5.5 or 5.6. Don't know enough about phpBB to speak on its needs. Everything else should be upgradeable I think.

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Could we have a check list of sites that aren't compatible. As I can see events site is running currently on 5.4.38

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[Radek-Suski]

So basically community.joomla.org ( @sanderpotjer ) I guess

[mbabker]

jdev002 (PHP 5.5) and joomla-org (PHP 5.6) servers are updated. joomla-misc cannot be updated as long as we have 1.5 installs on it. And I can't speak for JED or the forum on what it'll take them to update.

[mbabker]

@joomla/webmasters Anyone got an issue with the joomla-misc server being upgraded to MySQL 5.6? Rochen opened a ticket and want to upgrade that server's MySQL and PHP versions; I've already given guidance this isn't feasible at the moment for PHP but I want to make sure MySQL isn't an issue.

[jeckodevelopment]

@sam-suresh please check compatibilty for the Exam Platform.

[anibalsanchez]

I'm late to the party! Michael kindly point me to this ticket.

https://vel.joomla.org/ is also running on PHP 5.4.

[jeckodevelopment]

@mandville can you please check?

[mbabker]

@joomla/webmasters Since so many have been looking to update the server to PHP 5.6, we're looking into options to move the showcase site and let everyone else get updated. With that said, so we can move quickly when we reach an actionable point, please confirm your sites will run without error on a PHP 5.6 build.

[Sandra97]

The landing page works fine on PHP 7 so I presume we should not have any issue on PHP 5.6.

[mbabker]

It's already on a 5.6 server (live and sandbox), not too worried there. It's our "catch all" server that has everything I need confirmation on.

[jeckodevelopment]

@mbabker can you publish a list of websites on that server so each webmaster can "check and confirm" with a task list here?

[mbabker]

It's in the comments at the top of the issue 😉

[jeckodevelopment]

was it already there? (so, tbh i didn't scroll up previously)

[mbabker]

I added it when I added the all call.

[jeckodevelopment]

thank you Michael :D

[Sandra97]

JDocs can run on PHP 5.6

[wilsonge]

Magazine is good on php 7 so by definition assume it's fine on 5.6

[sam-suresh]

exam.joomla.org should work. I suggest set a fixed time window with Rochen and announce it to prevent people panic and shout!! Site owners too can check during the upgrade time window for possible problems.

[mbabker]

That'll definitely be coordinated. That's why I'm trying to do the leg work now so things can move quickly because independently reaching out to me and through tickets direct to Rochen almost every team with a site on this server has tried to get it upgraded.

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exam.joomla.org should work. I suggest set a fixed time window with Rochen and announce it to prevent people panic and shout!! Site owners too can check during the upgrade time window for possible problems.

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[jeckodevelopment]

certification.joomla.org and tm.joomla.org will work.

[anibalsanchez]

VEL has only RSforms

[jeckodevelopment]

@anibalsanchez RS Forms should work properly also on PHP 5.6

[jeckodevelopment]

@mbabker I guess that community.joomla.org will work properly, because it's a new version. Right? @Joomv

[mbabker]

I make no assumptions because extension developers are slow to make their code compatible with anything new or to refactor away from "legacy" structures. Just this weekend I made the mistake of turning error reporting on a dev site to full while working on PHP 7 with extensions released in the last few months that STILL use PHP 4 style constructors.

[jeckodevelopment]

yes, in fact I tried to involve also @Joomv who is in charge for CJO.

[Joomv]

I am pretty sure it will run 7 - although maqma could be an issue (only thing I haven't tested thoroughly on 7). I think it would be sensible to go to 5.6.x first - then I can clone and test on 7 rather than a switch and pray, I don't think there are any blockers, but I like to err on the side of caution.

[jeckodevelopment]

thank you @Joomv We'll update to 5.6! :)

[Joomv]

I believe the installation of Cloud Linux will allow webmasters to set their php versions as a cpanel level, if so, then each site can tweak as they see fit.

Is this right?

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thank you @Joomv https://github.com/Joomv
We'll update to 5.6! :)

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[mbabker]

Correct.

[mbabker]

Even after CloudLinux was installed there are still a lot of sites running PHP 5.4...

[Joomv]

CJO is on 7 now.

[sebastienlapoux]

Hi, Will be done on Showcase site some days after the launch of the new site J3, so in October.

[jeckodevelopment]

@sebastienlapoux , can I ask you why after the launch? Let me remind that, if there will be some compatibility issues, it could be useful to "discover" and fix them before the official launch.

[sebastienlapoux]

@jeckodevelopment because currently the old site is on J1.5. Current site and new one are on the same instance.

[jeckodevelopment]

ok, thank you for clarifying this!

[mbabker]

Unless there's a hidden directive somewhere the CloudLinux installation applies on a per-account basis (so each subdomain), not per-directory.

[wilsonge]

Just checked volunteers and it's running 5.6

[sanderpotjer]

https://volunteers.joomla.org is actually running PHP 7 now ;-)

[wilsonge]

I thought about it earlier but decided without testing might not have been a good idea :P

[sanderpotjer]

@wilsonge wise decision, a small fix was needed first

[mbabker]

Can we please close this out? And if you're running a site where you legitimately cannot upgrade past PHP 5.4, tell us what you need to make it happen.

[jeckodevelopment]

@mbabker TM website is currently on PHP 5.4. I don't have access to cPanel to pick a newer version. @SpiritJC can you please choose another PHP version? Otherwise @mbabker can you please do it?

[MATsxm]

@jeckodevelopment any updates?