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LimeSDR on Low Frequencies #726

Open BSAsecure opened 4 years ago

BSAsecure commented 4 years ago
Expected Behavior

Better control over GAIN for LimeSDR device (not mini). Please use example of the SDR Console Gain Control.

Actual Behavior

Signal really weak on the low frequencies even if GAIN is maximized.

Steps To Reproduce
  1. Go to URH
  2. Click on Spectrum Analyzer
  3. Refresh device, select sampling rate to 2.5M and Gain to above middle point (also tested maximum)
  4. See attached screenshots that signal that is strong on the Console is really weak on the URH even if Gain is cranked up to maximum.
Screenshots

Screenshot from Console showing LNA Gain and strong signal reception on RX1_L image

Signal on the URH image

Additional information about LimeSuite: image

Version information: Library version: v19.04.0-PothosSDR-2019.06.09-vc14-x64 Build timestamp: 2019-06-09 Interface version: v2019.1.0 Binary interface: 19.04-1

Please note that on URH there is no full control over all parameters of LimeSDR Gain.

Platform Specifications

Additional Logs: LimeSDR-OPEN (LimeSDR-USB, media=USB 3.0, module=FX3, serial=XXXXXX, index=0): Success LimeSDR-INIT: Success LimeSDR-SET_CHANNEL_INDEX to 0: Success LimeSDR-SET_ANTENNA_INDEX to 3: Success LimeSDR-SET_FREQUENCY to 1000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_SAMPLE_RATE to 2000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_BANDWIDTH to 2000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_RF_GAIN to 0.91: Success LimeSDR: Current normalized gain is 0.90 LimeSDR: Current antenna is LNAW (I was testing with RX1L and RX1W) LimeSDR: Current chip temperature is 37.99°C LimeSDR: Initializing stream... LimeSDR-Initialize stream: Success LimeSDR: successfully started rx mode

xixuedafa commented 4 years ago

LimeSDR mini also does not work below 30 MHz.Mayhe bellow 30MHz need to use NCO algorithm. Practically it is UP converter and converts 0.1-30MHz above 30MHz with NCO.

xixuedafa commented 4 years ago

SDRconsole v3 automatically sets NCO. SDRSharp like this: https://github.com/GoranRadivojevic/sdrsharp-limesdr/blob/master/SDRSharp.LimeSDR/LimeSuite.dll

BSAsecure commented 4 years ago

Make sense that besides lack of smarter Gain settings using LNA / PGA / TIA there is need to control NCO. I've noticed that LimeSDR's output power on lower frequencies (CW) while using software that does not control NCO is lower then CW sent via SDR Console.

lonram513 commented 4 years ago

Go to URH Click on Spectrum Analyzer Refresh device, select sampling rate to 2.5M and Gain to above middle point (also tested maximum) See attached screenshots that signal that is strong on the Console is really weak on the URH even if Gain is cranked up to maximum. Screenshots Screenshot from Console showing LNA Gain and strong signal reception on RX1_L image

Signal on the URH image

Additional information about LimeSuite: image

Version information: Library version: v19.04.0-PothosSDR-2019.06.09-vc14-x64 Build timestamp: 2019-06-09 Interface version: v2019.1.0 Binary interface: 19.04-1

Please note that on URH there is no full control over all parameters of LimeSDR Gain.

Platform Specifications OS: Windows 10 URH version: [e.g. 2.8.2] Installed via installer Additional Logs: LimeSDR-OPEN (LimeSDR-USB, media=USB 3.0, module=FX3, serial=XXXXXX, index=0): Success LimeSDR-INIT: Success LimeSDR-SET_CHANNEL_INDEX to 0: Success LimeSDR-SET_ANTENNA_INDEX to 3: Success LimeSDR-SET_FREQUENCY to 1000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_SAMPLE_RATE to 2000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_BANDWIDTH to 2000000.0: Success LimeSDR-SET_RF_GAIN to 0.91: Success LimeSDR: Current normalized gain is 0.90 LimeSDR: Current antenna is LNAW (I was testing with RX1L and RX1W) LimeSDR: Current chip temperature is 37.99°C LimeSDR: Initializing stream... LimeSDR-Initialize stream: Success LimeSDR: successfully started rx mode

@jopohl jopohl added feature sdr labels on Feb 12 @andynoack andynoack added the help wanted label on Feb 17 @xixuedafa

xixuedafa commented on Feb 18 LimeSDR mini also does not work below 30 MHz.Mayhe bellow 30MHz need to use NCO algorithm. Practically it is UP converter and converts 0.1-30MHz above 30MHz with NCO.

@xixuedafa

xixuedafa commented on Feb 18 SDRconsole v3 automatically sets NCO. SDRSharp like this: https://github.com/GoranRadivojevic/sdrsharp-limesdr/blob/master/SDRSharp.LimeSDR/LimeSuite.dll

@BSAsecure

Author BSAsecure commented on Feb 19 Make sense that besides lack of smarter Gain settings using LNA / PGA / TIA there is need to control NCO. I've noticed that LimeSDR's output power on lower frequencies (CW) while using software that does not control NCO is lower then CW sent via SDR Console.

@jopohl jopohl mentioned this issue on Feb 25 Limesdr Mini TX under 30mhz #729

ChazTuna commented 4 years ago

FYI I have the same issue with weak signals when using my SDRplay RSPdx at ~300MHz. For some reason the native support is not quite working right.