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josdejong / jsoneditor

A web-based tool to view, edit, format, and validate JSON
http://jsoneditoronline.org
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Showing ads almost 25% of the viewport is reduced the quality of the site #1251

Closed kumaravel95 closed 2 years ago

kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

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kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

https://jsfiddle.net/ is handled in showing ads in nice way.

  1. only Technical Ads.
  2. Place of the advertisement really good.
  3. If the user goes for adblocker, they make change our mind to unblock the ads for their site in a nice way.
Moulde commented 3 years ago

This repository is for the jsoneditor, not the website, so this issue seems to be a bit off-topic. *Correct me if I'm wrong

kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

@Moulde, I understood you. Ads display component source code are may not be available in this repo. but I hope, jsoneditoronline.org is owned by @josdejong. I gave the suggestions for the website as per his information in the website.

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So, I don't think, its off-topic

josdejong commented 3 years ago

Thanks for your input Kumaravel, this is an interesting topic. This is indeed the best place with feedbacks about JSONEditorOnline (since there is no other place).

I find it difficult to do "right". Currently the served ads have a fixed with of 300px. Whether this is "large" depends on your screen resolution of course. Most of the users do have a high screen resolution for which 300px is fine, but for smaller screen resolutions I agree it is not ideal. For a long time I had a toggle to show 160px ads on screens with a width smaller than 1500px. This turned out to be tricky: when accidentally rendering an 300px ad in a space of 160px, you see only part of the ad, and these kind of violations can get you blacklisted by Google Ads very easily. I think it's a good idea though to have another look at this, it would be more user friendly for the people with a small screen.

As for the ad contents: I chose to not allow sensitive categories, and no movies, no popups, etc. I try to keep it decent.

For me personally, I would love to not have ads on the websites I visit, and instead pay a few bucks (like https://scroll.com/). Still, the easiest way to earn some money on the web is with ads, and I try to get some compensation too for the effort I put in this web application and I have to pay hosting costs somehow. I'm thinking about offering a paid, ad-free version of the web application. What do you think about that?

If https://jsoneditoronline.org would be your website, how would you go about this?

kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

I understood the reason for increasing the pixel size to 300px and of-course ads will help to pay at-least hosting costs.

But If you see the statistics, only 22% of users users uses higher resolution worldwide and we should consider to reduce the ads size. image

If it is my website, I will try below options,

  1. Google ads have 160x600px ad banner option. I would choose it for only low resolution devices.
  2. www.carbonads.net ads.
  3. www.buymeacoffee.com.
josdejong commented 3 years ago

Thanks for your inputs.

The average user of JSONEditor Online (typically developers) does have a relatively higher screen resolution, the google analytics of the website shows about 32% of the users have a screen resolution below 1500px (and about 8% of those are very close to the threshold), and more than 58% do have a resolution above it (and the remaining percentages is "other" so could be both). We have to be cautious with conclusions about those stats and generic stats from statcounter: in case of statcounter there is a huge category of "other" which is is about 1/3rd of all... (try if the stats of your screenshot add up to 100% 😉 ). Also it, depends quite a bit how you define "high resolution" (I was counting with 1500px or more, but you're using a higher value I suppose? 1920px?).

Anyway, it's a very good point to see again if I can show 160px ads again on smaller screens 👍

Edit: there you go... I took wrong stats from Google Analytics in the first place, update the numbers now. Stats are hard 😉

kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

Thanks for considering it :)

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 10:39 PM Jos de Jong notifications@github.com wrote:

Thanks for your inputs.

The average user of JSONEditor Online (typically developers) does have a relatively higher screen resolution, the google analytics of the website shows about 34% of the users have a screen resolution below 1500px (and about 10% of those are very close to the threshold), and more than 50% do have a resolution above it (and the remaining percentages is "other" so could be both). We have to be cautious with conclusions about those stats and generic stats from statcounter: in case of statcounter there is a huge category of "other" which is is about 1/3rd of all... (try if the stats of your screenshot add up to 100% 😉 ). Also it, depends quite a bit how you define "high resolution" (I was counting with 1500px or more, but you're using a higher value I suppose? 1920px?).

Anyway, it's a very good point to see again if I can show 160px ads again on smaller screens 👍

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josdejong commented 3 years ago

JSONEditor Online will now show smaller ads for screens below 1580px. It can happen that a half visible large ad is rendered on small screens on, this will be resolved by the ad provider soon.

kumaravel95 commented 3 years ago

Website looks better with my screen now. image

josdejong commented 3 years ago

👍

kumaravel95 commented 2 years ago

@josdejong

Now again, ads pane is got larger size for small screens when compared to previous one. image

also non-technical ads also displaying now

josdejong commented 2 years ago

That is interesting. Nothing changed since a year ago, where I changed the dynamic ad size to:

JSONEditor Online will now show smaller ads for screens below 1580px.

So in short:

Looking at your screenshots now in more detail, I think you have a regular full HD screen with a width of 1920px, which will indeed show ads of 300px. That makes me wonder how you managed to make this screenshot here: https://github.com/josdejong/jsoneditor/issues/1251#issuecomment-797878270 🤔

Anyway, is the width on your screen an actual problem? I mean, there is plenty enough space to show the JSON contents in the two editor panels I think? (I often have a regular full HD screen too).

also non-technical ads also displaying now

That is possible. There should be no ads though of sensitive categories like gambling, dating, pharmacy, etc.

Other question @kumaravel95: I have plans to introduce a subscription model for JSON Editor Online, maybe somewhere coming summer. That would give you an ad-free version of the application, and allow you to login and save your JSON documents privately in the cloud, and maybe share them within a team or so. Would such a subscription model be of interest to you?

josdejong commented 2 years ago

Closing due to lack of response. Feel free to re-open if needed