Sub-Forum on love2d.org/forums?

[Bobbyjoness]

Can we get our own sub forum?

[josefnpat]

Is there a reason to? I'm hesitant to make new lines of communication, seeing as we already have github, an IRC channel and a website (vapor.love2d.org) to do so.

[Bobbyjoness]

Some people only use the forums it would be cool to get them involved as well. And the website is a little hidden. I actually don't know how I found Vapor tbh.

[Bobbyjoness]

Most of the new people don't know about Vapor. A lot has changed from the 0.8.0 world of users.

[josefnpat]

I might be able to talk to @bartbes about sticky'ing the vapor thread, but I would really like to avoid a full blown sub-forum. It would be more for me and the love moderator team to deal with.

[Bobbyjoness]

I guess that can work for now. I would think eventually we would want one. Whether on the love forums or on the Vapor site idk.

[pablomayobre]

Well I dont think there is really a reason to have a subforum.

• Collaboration on Vapor: That is done through Github (and whoever wanna contribute needs to do it through Github anyway)
• Opinions on Vapor: The IRC is for that, dont use IRC? There is a topic for that, dont use the forums? There are issues on Github.
• Uploading games to Vapor: Well the page is there for that, also there is Github issues, if you dont know of the page you can get to know it from the Forum thread, also it will be written on the wiki and possibly in the main page who knows?

So do you have a real reason that can't be solved with the forum thread, the Github repo, the IRC or the webpage? If you dont then I think there is no reason

[Bobbyjoness]

I can't see no thread. Is it there yeah. But a new person to love from the last year won't see or know about it. I myself only found it by looking at josefnpat's profile

[josefnpat]

@Bobbyjoness https://love2d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40743

[Bobbyjoness]

I meant its not on the front page. New users don't see it. I've seen it though

[pablomayobre]

Then we just need to pin it, not a new sub-forum

[Bobbyjoness]

Well a forum has its benefits as well but I can see I'm on my own with that request so I'll accept a pinning.

[pablomayobre]

Can you say those benefits? I'm not really putting your issue down, just testing if it is needed or not

[Bobbyjoness]

Lol a forum is a community and we want vapor to have its own little sense of community. Yeah a topic is cool but what if it gets to be hundred pages long? What if someone posted something in this topic and it got lost? A sub forum is better because if a user is having an issue with vapor he can make a post without polluting the general forums. I would be able to go into the subforums and see if I like any of the topics. Another thing is availability. A lot of people are new. Many don't know what github or IRC is. That was how it was for me. For those people a forum is the most accessible. We wouldn't want one topic where it would be hard to see what I want to see unless I check back everyday before a valuable post is lost do to being on page 2 instead of 1 or 3 lol

[pablomayobre]

Well there wont be that many things about Vapor anyway, that thread would be mainly issues and ideas, as I said, for games there will be the main page (vapor.love2d.org) and for development the IRC and Github... So still not sure

[josefnpat]

From my experience, a thread is an easy way to lose track of information, but a whole subforum is just as annoying.

While I can appreciate that the vapor may need a forum at one point for idle chit-chat, I think integrating it into vapor.love2d.org's drupal instance may be better than love2d.org/forums as it would provide more integration to the information we have (e.g. favorites,reporting,downloads,etc).

From more experience, it's important to expand to what your community needs instead of building it up in hopes that people come.

At some point we may out-grow the GitHub/IRC systems, but I don't think we're anywhere near that point yet.

[Bobbyjoness]

The general user. Think about the general user doesn't matter where a forum is we will need one eventually. Its about community and brand quality. Lol

[josefnpat]

@Bobbyjoness For vapor0.x there is vapor.love2d.org. There isn't even a stable release of vapor1.x, so building a "general user" community doesn't even make sense at this point.

[Bobbyjoness]

Oh ignore my last comment lol just seen your @josefnpat

[pablomayobre]

So we agree on "not for now"?

[josefnpat]

I do.

[Bobbyjoness]

I do too. Let's discuss something new now. Will me and @Positive07 get donuts and become official vapor devs?

[josefnpat]

@Bobbyjoness Get a few pull requests under your belt, and we'll see. I'm all for adding folks as contributors, but I do want to make sure that I can trust what you put in on a quality, so to speak.

[Bobbyjoness]

Ok, but don't forget the donuts. I heard dunkin donuts delivers lol.

[josefnpat]

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