josefprusa / PrusaMendel

My own RepRap Mendel redesign
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X idler/motor brackets should accomodate use of bolts #63

Closed bgamari closed 12 years ago

bgamari commented 12 years ago

While I can understand the desire to minimize the use of vitamins, it seems to me that the current friction-fit between the idler/motor brackets and the X axis' smooth rods is a poor trade-off. The brackets I were sold in my initial parts buy had nut traps and bolt holes to retain the X axis smooth rods. When working with poorly aligned machines (e.g. poorly sized Z axis couplers), I have found it invaluable to be able to lengthen the X axis smooth rods a tad, allowing me to apply force on the Z axis bushings and minimize X axis wobble. This is not possible with a mere friction fit. Moreover, I've noticed that even without this pre-loading, the friction fit brackets permit noticeably greater wobble than the old parts due to flexing of the pressure-applying finger.

jglauche commented 12 years ago

I'm sorry, I don't see your problem here. I have 5 Prusa Mendels now with push fit X ends and they all work perfectly with the 2 part couplings in the repository. When you recently upgrade from the old non-pushfit X-ends you need to make sure your X rods are cut to the same length, then you need to readjust one of your Z motor mounts (using nuts/washers) to be the exact length as the whole X stage. If you miss that, you'll get terrible results.

bgamari commented 12 years ago

You demonstrate my point exactly. The screw solution has one great advantage: it is very forgiving. It seems that the decision to use the push-fit coupling trades off cheap and readily available screws for a less forgiving solution requiring greater control over material preparation (i.e. smooth rod length). In light of the fact that the screw solution produces a far more stable platform in the face of an imperfect Z coupling, this seems like a very poor trade-off indeed. If nothing else the new design should allow the builder to use screws if the need should arise.

jglauche commented 12 years ago

Well, you can always use the old files if the new ones doesn't work in your setup. But I really recommend to print out new couplings and do the steps as I recommended.

For new builds, it's easier to build the frame according to the X stage. Once you have set the Z motor mounts exactly as long apart as the X ends (smooth rod to smooth rod) while building the frame, you have zero calibration effort at that point later.