An essential letter is missing in the Spanish alphabet (letter "eñe")

[Guuustav]

Barlow is missing an essential letter in the Spanish alphabet. It is about the letter "eñe":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%91

We were reviewing the glyphs and we found different N but none is the "eñe".

Could you add it please?

Thank you very much in advance.

[jpt]

Hi, can you let me know which version of Barlow you are using and where you got it from, just so I can have a look at the right thing

[Guuustav]

Hi Jeremy. First, thanks for your fast reply.

(I'm the person who emailed you a month ago and I sent you screenshots of the errors. A few days ago I sent you this problem by mail.)

We use the version 1.5 version we downloaded from here:

https://github.com/jpt/barlow/tree/1.5

We use 1.5 because the latest (1.4) always gives as an error when opening the PDFs where I used it. With 1.5 it doesn't give any error.

Kind regards.

[jpt]

Ah just saw your email. Not sure what happened but I will bring the eñe back, this is a relatively critical bug so I will update it (in the 1.5 branch) soon - thank you for reporting it

[Guuustav]

Thank you very much for your excellent project and keep it alive to update it if necessary.

We will be waiting for the arrival of the update.

[Guuustav]

Ah just saw your email. Not sure what happened but I will bring the eñe back, this is a relatively critical bug so I will update it (in the 1.5 branch) soon - thank you for reporting it

Hi @jpt I hope you're well. As I told you, we established Barlow as a corporate font in the city hall of my city where I work and we need to solve the problem with Ñ. Some workers discovered the problem 😅

I realize that it is not your main job and you have your work and personal occupations but I wanted to remind you of the issue. Don't take it as pressure but I would like to know that you can solve it as soon as you can. Kind regards.

Any predictions on when the new version will be available?

While we are using version 1.422 but as you know it has the middle point problem that we also use in our language.

Kind regards.

[jpt]

hi @Guuustav - no worries, I don't feel any pressure. apologies this issue (along with many others) is still open; as you've suspected, I haven't been able to prioritize volunteer work recently, but I'm looking into options for supporting the project. I'll let you know when I have an update

[Guuustav]

hi @Guuustav - no worries, I don't feel any pressure. apologies this issue (along with many others) is still open; as you've suspected, I haven't been able to prioritize volunteer work recently, but I'm looking into options for supporting the project. I'll let you know when I have an update

Don't worry Jeremy. I understand you perfectly. Do what you can. Thank you very much for your quick response.

[Guuustav]

I'm sorry @jpt I closed it but then I thought you couldn't let me know about the news.

[Muscarias]

Hi guys, I am also facing the same problem as Guuustav, and I would strongly request Jeremy to help us find a solution when he can spare some time.

[jpt]

Hi @Muscarias - feel free to submit a pull request and I will be happy to review

[Muscarias]

Hi Jeremy. First, thanks for your fast reply. I thought this was the right thread. The problem is that in version 1.5 of the Barlow font, the letter "ñ" does not appear, which is essential in Spanish. Attached screenshot of the problem

[victografic]

Hello Jeremy,

Fist of all, congratulations for your project! I absolutelly love it! I have the same problem as the others guys here, the missing "ñ".

I've read the message where you said to @Muscarias to pull a request. What you mean with that? That we fix the problem in Glyphs app and upload the new version? Sorry, I'm a github newbie.

As a designer, I could help with whatever you need!

Thanks in advance :)

[Guuustav]

First of all. Happy New Year to all.

Some time ago I downloaded the latest version of Glyphs and opened the file provided by @jpt but it told me that it had been made with version 3109. I ignored that warning and then another window appeared indicating that 211 issues had been found.

I am a graphic designer but I don't know professional typographic design, much less Glyphs. What I did in typographic design at university was with Font Lab. So I don't know how to respond to those notices.

My intention was to draw the ñ glyphs in Glyps even without knowing how to do it, but to my surprise Jeremy already had them drawn. Both lowercase and uppercase. So I suspect that it will be a problem when exporting to ttf/otf.

Like @victografic, I offer to help you Jeremy with whatever you need. I also don't know what you meant by pulling a request if the glyphs are already drawn. In any case, I declare myself a total newbie to how Github works, but I would be happy to do whatever is necessary to help.

Greetings and thank you!

[xcolomer]

Hello Jeremy,

I am facing the same problem as my colleagues.

Barlow is an excellent typography, I love it. I want to use it for a web page. But in the latest version 1.5 an essential letter of the Spanish alphabet is missing. It is the letter "eñe" "Ñ".

This drawback makes it impossible to use this font for projects in the Spanish language. (About 496 million people speak, read and write Spanish natively, making it the third or fourth most spoken language in the world).

Jeremmy, I strongly join the petition to solve this problem. Do you have a scheduled date to fix it?

Thanks in advance! ;-)

[jpt]

https://github.com/jpt/barlow/archive/refs/heads/1.5.zip

Can someone confirm the ñ is working in the fonts in the archive above?

[Guuustav]

Hi Jeremy!

Very happy to see a new version of Barlow. Thank you very much for your great work.

I have activated it (OTF) in FontXplorer X Pro on my Macbook Pro M1 (macOS Monterey + InDesign 2024) and I have detected that InDesign draws but marks the regular, bold and bold italic as not found.

My coworker installed it on his computer (same computer, macOS and software) but the problem is quite different. It seems as if he were writing in another language. Here you can see my InDesign document open on his Mac:

However, Condensed works correctly:

The same thing happens with both OTF and TTF. It's disconcerting but we haven't found where the problem is.

Kind regards.

[jpt]

Odd, thanks for the report, I'll have a look

[fitojb]

That sounds like a macOS duplicate-font (Font Book can help with that) or caching issue (which is solvable by restarting)

[xcolomer]

Hi Jeremy, I'm glad to hear good news from you and the Barlow project. Tested Barlow from 1.5 zip in cyreal.org Barlow Regular

Barlow Semicondensed

In Wordpress I tested the Barlow 1.5 from GitHub as a custom font, It seems to work well. The letter "Ñ" and the middle dot are displayed correctly. :) And barlow from Google Fonts, It looks like it's not updated yet. :(

I hope it helps

[jpt]

thanks @xcolomer! I am very close to merging 1.5 and then opening an issue with Google Fonts to update to the latest.

@Guuustav I believe making the fonts work with FontXplorer would break them in MS Office, which is a tradeoff I'm not willing to make