jtauber / labe-luxnos

exploring the use of text adventures / interactive fiction for learning Ancient Greek
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should the commands the user enters in be imperative or infinitive? #1

Open jtauber opened 6 years ago

jtauber commented 6 years ago

I asked on twitter what other languages use for the verbs in “go east” or “open door” or “take lamp” or "read note".

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jtauber commented 6 years ago

I'm less interested in the intuitions of L1 English speakers that the imperative would be used (which was my initially thought although I think an infinitive might actually be what it is in English). It seems the infinitive is potentially a better candidate (at least from modern Romance language evidence).

jtauber commented 6 years ago
seumasjeltzz commented 6 years ago

I'm still inclined to aorist imperatives. But I'd like more data from modern European games.

kmpenner commented 6 years ago

Have you checked out http://docs.textadventures.co.uk/quest/translating_quest.html ?

jtauber commented 6 years ago

@seumasjeltzz all the feedback I got on Twitter on modern European games suggests the infinitive. I think that makes sense if you view it as completing βούλομαι... rather than commanding your avatar.

jtauber commented 6 years ago

@kmpenner no, but looks like a really interesting project from which we can get a lot of ideas. Although the specific page you link to doesn't directly address the question in this issue, the fact there are templates in English, French, German, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Esperanto, Russian and Icelandic means we should be able to work out what each of those languages does.

jtauber commented 6 years ago

Here's what the Quest language templates have for various "Take" translations:

German: Nimm Dutch: Neem Norwegian: Ta French: Prendre Italian: Prendi Spanish: Coger Esperanto: Coger

jtauber commented 6 years ago

That seems to be a mix of imperative and infinitive :-)

seumasjeltzz commented 5 years ago

I think I've shifted to thinking the infinitive will be fine.

fhardison commented 4 years ago

What about questions, either in present or future indicative or aorist subjunctive? άρα λαμβάνεις το ... Or something like that. Just an idea.