Design Jupyter T-shirts

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

@cameronoelsen is going to also design us Jupyter T-shirts!

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

Any way of making one that's just the "jupyter" name (with the right font) centered on a shirt, but no logo?

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

I like this idea - @cameronoelsen can this be one of your prototypes?

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Any way of making one that's just the "jupyter" name (with the right font) centered on a shirt, but no logo?

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ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

But @rgbkrk - I will also have @cameronoelsen do a special one for you that is just chompy with no words ;-)

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

do a special one for you that is just chompy with no words ;-)

._.

Carreau commented 9 years ago

Do you think we should have slightly differents T-shirs for significant contributors/evangelist, that basically are higher quality + their name (and/or role) on sleeves / front ?

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

We could definitely explore something like that. Although having individual names on the shirt might get expensive. But having a different t-shirt for "core devs" would be a good idea.

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jhamrick commented 9 years ago

Could I request that we make some t-shirts in women's sizes/cuts? I don't think this would actually change anything about the design itself, but then again, I don't know anything about t-shirt design, so I thought I'd mention it now :-)

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

We can and should definitely do that!

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We'll need a model to test the size-cut. Are you a volunteer ?

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Carreau commented 9 years ago

Do we try to make T-Shirt for SciPy ? If so should we contact organizer to know the men/women ratio ?

ivanov commented 9 years ago

We all agree we should have t-shirts: but what color will they be?

Here are two websites that should help us with this:

http://bikeshed.org/ http://colorbrewer2.org/

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

Pretty sure black is the only color of shirt for the tech community.

cameronoelsen commented 9 years ago

I was thinking a darker charcoal gray (nearing black ;) )

cameronoelsen commented 9 years ago

Here is my first rendering of what the t-shirt may look like. The "developer" text underneath the front would be taken out for the shirts that would be sold. Order of the logos on the back of the shirt will be changed. front_design back_design

minrk commented 9 years ago

We should ask the Julia folks what their thoughts are on a monochrome rendering of their logo.

takluyver commented 9 years ago

I wonder if the top row of the logo grid should be Julia, Python, R as a reference to that source of the name.

I might also make a bigger difference between the core developer shirt and the one we sell, like a different base colour. But I'm not sure which colours, and I could be persuaded out of that.

We should also probably be careful wikth the '44 languages' claim. There are 44 kernels currently listed on our wiki, but there are languages that have more than one kernel (e.g. Lua), languages where the kernel is so primitive we probably don't want to claim support (e.g. Go), and grey areas like Octave/Scilab/Matlab, and Python/Brython/Skulpt/VPython - are these different languages, or different implementations of a language?

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

Yeah, we are going to make a pass at reorganizing the kernel logos. Also, there are a number of logos there for relatively obscure languages that probably don't make sense to put in a context like this...

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I wonder if the top row of the logo grid should be Julia, Python, R as a reference to that source of the name.

I might also make a bigger difference between the core developer shirt and the one we sell, like a different base colour. But I'm not sure which colours, and I could be persuaded out of that.

We should also probably be careful wikth the '44 languages' claim. There are 44 kernels currently listed on our wiki, but there are languages that have more than one kernel (e.g. Lua), languages where the kernel is so primitive we probably don't want to claim support (e.g. Go), and grey areas like Octave/Scilab/Matlab, and Python/Brython/Skulpt/VPython - are these different languages, or different implementations of a language?

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damianavila commented 9 years ago

Pretty sure black is the only color of shirt for the tech community.

Jaja... it could be... but other colors could work to, probably the antithesis: white

I wonder if the top row of the logo grid should be Julia, Python, R as a reference to that source of the name.

I think is a good idea...

I might also make a bigger difference between the core developer shirt and the one we sell, like a different base colour. But I'm not sure which colours, and I could be persuaded out of that.

I also agree... a different color usually works well....

We should also probably be careful wikth the '44 languages' claim.

Also in agreement...

Carreau commented 9 years ago

The logo are just in the order, and the one I threw on the mani jupyter.org main page, without really thinking at order/different implementation.

Something disturb me in the front of the t shirt, I'm not quite sure why. I think it's an impression of imbalance left/right. But I overall like it.

The dev/classic difference can be black/white vs white/black.

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

My preference here is to keep it simple, using our current fonts. I already have a lot of NASCAR technology shirts.

FRONT

jupyter

BACK

jupyter.org

Alternative

FRONT

jupyter

BACK

try.jupyter.org

bigzachattack commented 9 years ago

It would be nice if polos and t-shirts are available for users to buy/ I prefer polos over t-shirts, but I understand the reasoning for restricting the polos to developers.

takluyver commented 9 years ago

I don't think we were exactly planning to restrict polos to developers - I think it's fine to have a polo option available to the public as well, even if the design for that is done a bit later. We could offer all kinds of apparel. :-)

cameronoelsen commented 9 years ago

Hey all! Thanks for your ideas and criticisms, really appreciate to make better designs. I have attached many different layouts below with their white counterparts (in case we want to make two colors) as well as some possible polo designs at the bottom. layout 1 layout 1a layout 2 layout 2a layout 3 layout 3a layout 4 layout 4a polo 1 polo 2

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

What would you think about putting the URLs higher on the back?

damianavila commented 9 years ago

I really like the big logo at the center (picture 1 and 2).

minrk commented 9 years ago

For polo: I like text inside the logo.
I don't have a strong preference for the t-shirt logo.
I like the idea of pointing people straight to try.jupyter.org, but it's not as easy as it should be to get back to jupyter.org once you are in tmpnb.
I'd shy away from the claim of '44' languages, since there is lots of overlap (several Python and Javascript kernels, for instance). Perhaps something more vague, like '...and many more'
I like the look of the url on the back a bit better than the logos, but no strong preference.
I like the idea of the back logos, since it communicates actual information (we support lots of languages) but I don't have a good sense of how to pick which ones. I'd be fine with the ones on there now, though.

rgbkrk commented 9 years ago

try.jupyter.org, but it's not as easy as it should be to get back to jupyter.org once you are in tmpnb

We really should change that.

minrk commented 9 years ago

Yup. It can be done with content in the Welcome notebook. I'm not sure there's room to put it anywhere permanent, like the header.

fperez commented 9 years ago

I know we're super pressed for time to get the order in time for scipy, sorry I was in a net blackout while traveling for the last 48h and didn't comment before.

Given the time pressure, allow me to cast my vote with some BDFL weight behind it, and we use this for the Scipy print run. If it turns out everyone hates my decision, we can reconsider and revisit for future print runs. I'm not too worried here, since this is just a t-shirt, our first, and a limited run, so screwing up here as BDFL will have a limited impact :)

Let me also thank everyone for the fantastic job on these designs. I love it!!

My proposal (speaking only of t-shirt, not polo):

Dark background.
Print both fronts:
- 50% of them with logo that uses word next to the figure
- 50% of them with the logo that has the word inside the figure.

That way we have two "editions", and people can pick which one they like more (a few lucky ones will collect both). Just like Alpinist did two covers for their 50th issue, we can have two.

For the back, use simply jupyter.org.

While at first I very much loved the language grid, it gradually started feeling way too much like the sponsorship t-shirt of a race or triathlon... I started looking for the Gatorade and Clif Bar logos in there... I think if we want these to be t-shirts that have more "wearability", a simpler design with fewer visual clutter will help.

As for why not try.jupyter, it's because it pushes people directly into a place that can be a bit weird without context. Whereas the main website has the try.jupyter button very nicely labeled, but it explains what it does well, making it a better experience.

So that's both my summary of decisions and rationale for them. Let's make this order, and let's see how we like them!

Again, thanks everyone!!

fperez commented 9 years ago

ps - let's not forget to order proper women's cuts.

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

Thanks Fernando I will get these ordered (with proper women's cuts).

Cheers,

Brian

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ps - let's not forget to order proper women's cuts.

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ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

Here is the information about what we are purchasing. We got the ratios of T-shirt sizes from the SciPy organizers:

Using CustomInk, with project.jupyter@gmail.com for the email address.
Mens: 10 S, 30 M, 30 L, 10 XL, 5 XXL, Gildan Soft Jersey.
Womens: 25 S, 40 M, 25 L, 5 XL, Anvil Ladies Jersey.
~100 each of two designs, charcoal color.

Carreau commented 9 years ago

Will it be delivered in Berkeley, Cal Poly ? or Austin ?

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

I am going to have them delivered directly to Austin (the hotel under our names)...

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

Sorry, I typed the womens numbers incorrectly. Here is the exact numbers I ordered:

Item 1: Anvil Ladies Jersey T-shirt - Charcoal Quantity: S: 5, M: 10, L: 5, XL: 3; Total: 23

Item 2: Gildan Softstyle Jersey T-shirt - Charcoal Quantity: S: 10, M: 30, L: 30, XL: 10, XXL: 5; Total: 85

The Mens/Womens split is based on the actual attendance numbers of SciPy.

ellisonbg commented 9 years ago

Also, here are the raw size numbers from the SciPy attendees to help with future orders:

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josiahdavis commented 8 years ago

Is it possible to get these anywhere online?

jenyquist commented 8 years ago

I second Josiah's question. Can we get these shirts online?

Carreau commented 8 years ago

We're discussing setting up a cafepress or similar.

There a few questions we need to clarify first, including legal ones as most of us are funded by a non-profit, we have to be extra-careful in setting this up, even if we put a $0 commission cost on swag.

jenyquist commented 8 years ago

Understood, thanks. Classy looking shirts, though, so I'll just have to sit here green with envy until you get it sorted out. Maybe you can have the specifications saved at cafepress and interested parties can just design their own directly using your template? That way you're not a vendor.

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We're discussing setting up a cafepress http://www.cafepress.com/ or similar.

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Carreau commented 8 years ago

Maybe you can have the specifications saved at cafepress and interested parties can just design their own directly using your template? That way you're not a vendor.

I am not a lawyer, and even if we are open source, I don't know how that affect the Jupyter brand.

There have been a increase of requests these days and we are out of the T-shirts we ordered at SciPy last year, so I'll try to push that forward.

jenyquist commented 8 years ago

Another possibility is giving out T-shirts to donors. Public radio does this sort of thing all the time and they are non-profit. Probably do have to ask the lawyers...

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Maybe you can have the specifications saved at cafepress and interested parties can just design their own directly using your template? That way you're not a vendor.

I am not a lawyer, and even if we are open source, I don't know how that affect the Jupyter brand.

There have been a increase of requests these days and we are out of the T-shirts we ordered at SciPy last year, so I'll try to push that forward.

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