Weekly Team Meetings: Aug-Dec 2021

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Weekly Team Meetings: Aug-Dec 2021 #128

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isabela-pf commented 2 years ago

Here is a record of the agenda/minutes for our weekly meeting. Everyone is welcome to join.

Let's avoid using this thread for discussion. If you'd like to discuss something in the minutes, open a separate issue and reference this thread.

(Thanks to @jasongrout for starting the last six-month note issue jupyter/retrolab#117 that I copied this intro from.)

Meeting Notes

isabela-pf commented 2 years ago

Originally posted by @afshin

JupyterLab Weekly Call - August 4, 2021

Attendees

Name	Organization	GitHub	Favorite Color
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	pink
William Stein	SageMath/CoCalc	@williamstein	White
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidar	Ultramarine
Steve Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	fuchsia
Loïc Huder	ESRF	@loichuder	midnightblue
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan	yellow
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	orange!
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	`#000`, also `#chucknorris`
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	Black
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins	blue
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	scarlet
Mike	UOXF/own behalf	@krassowski	coffee
Gonzalo	Quansight, inc	@goanpeca	blue
Kevin Bates	IBM	@kevin-bates	Dodger Blue

Agenda

Frederic
- Should we update binder link in jupyterlab/README.md? (currently pointing to a specific hash on jupyterlab-demo)
  https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab
  Opening PR to latest stable version
- New examples on completer and shared models: https://github.com/jupyterlab/extension-examples/ => thanks a lot to @hbcarlos
- Meeting about notebook performance just after Video call link: https://meet.google.com/qbv-zggh-qfk Meeting notes are on https://github.com/jupyterlab/benchmarks/issues/68
Loic
- Fix error on malformed URLs when rendering Markdown: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10773
- Button to show/hide hidden files to discuss: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10769
Steve
- JupyterLab 3.1.2
Isabela
- Is there a process for closing long abandoned issues or PRs?
  - Past efforts haven't been recieved well.
  - "Closing as Answered" is hooked up to the bot which auto-closes after some time
  - If it has been fixed, make sure to link it to the PR that fixes it and the version of JupyterLab that is before closing.
  - Related problem: locked issues don't show referenced issues after they are locked. This has resulted in duplicate issues and PRs in the past.
Nick
- trove classifiers go/no-go
Alex
- Martha and I have started work on the Setting UI in parallel to our proposed donation of the metadata service and it's associated editor from Elyra.
- Double check on the licensing since Elyra and JupyterLab have different licenses.
Mike:
- Just highlighting some cool work that may need more eyes on:
  - Add execution progress indicator
  - Removed debug switch, added bug button state update - adds the pressed state
- Do we need to allow to disable document-wide history tracking to finish off dealing with Undo removes the partial output of currently running cell; cannot redo changes undone when other cell produces outputs
  - there are additional considerations with document-wide history tracking: accidentally pasted secrets (want to disable), accoutnability in RTC (want to keep)
Gonzalo
- Language packs
- Multiple outputs single release tag
- Individual feedstocks

Additional Discussion

Frederic
- buildutils 3.1 (since #10494) depends on (unofficial) npm-cli-login which depends on (official) npm-registry-client that depends on old ssri
  https://github.com/jupyterlab-contrib/jupyterlab_toastify/security/dependabot/yarn.lock/ssri/open
  info This module exists because "_project_#test-jlab-toastify#@jupyterlab#builder#@jupyterlab#buildutils#npm-cli-login#npm-registry-client" depends on it.
  - Is it this? https://github.com/npm/cli/issues/3064
    This is related to that but it seems that they don't release any more the separate package npm-registry-client This one: https://github.com/npm/npm-registry-client/issues
  - We can just remove it and use one of answers from: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54540096/give-credentials-to-npm-login-command-line
- Language packages on conda-forge: N feedstocks as pypi or single feedstock?
  If single feedstock this forces to use common version for all packages https://gitter.im/conda-forge/regro-cf-autotick-bot?at=6109583a7555e33351f04684
  PR on conda-forge recipes: https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/pull/15771#issuecomment-890305595
  Prerelease versions are available on Pypi.org

JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 11, 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Street Food

A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	tteokbokki? toppoki?
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins	छोले-पूरी
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	~~French~~ Belgian fries
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	DÖNER
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	navajo tacos
Kevin Bates	IBM	@kevin-bates	carne asada tacos
Pete Blois	Google (Colab)	@blois	chili dogs
Zach Sailer	Apple	@Zsailer	tacos, obviously
Max Klein	JPM	@telamonian	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esi7zmmS-H4
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan	banh mi
Vidar T Fauske	JPMorgan Chase	@vidartf	tacooo
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	tacos
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	Brazilian coxinha

Agenda

William: I've been making an effort to encourage some developers of other Jupyter frontends to come to this meeting. (Hi Pete!) I hope this is OK. I think it's valuable since it's useful to see how problems have been solved, and get feedback about usage based on experience by hosting providers.
Frederic: new Galata (WIP - PR)
Max: what's the current state of the version pinning that jupyter lab build does?
- recently came up at work: our python jlab pkg is at 3.0.14 while our js bundle is at 3.0.16 after a build
- is there a potential for this to cause issues? Or has our semver discipline around changes to python<->js interactions been strong?
Piyush
- Removed debug switch - PR Frederic has some comments to use command interface, want to get feedback from others and make sure this is the right direction to go.
- Removed toolbar scrollbar - PR. Small change, is there any feedback?
nick
- broke trove classifiers
- will ping the upstream...
  - waiting for https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/pull/9882
- related to https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10731
Adam
- Question about sharedPackages.

Additional Discussion

Remote Code Execution in Jupyter Notebook and JupyterLab, please update to latest patch release and read on to know more. https://blog.jupyter.org/cve-2021-32797-and-cve-2021-32798-remote-code-execution-in-jupyterlab-and-jupyter-notebook-a70fae0d3239, Feel free to ask questions, I will keep updating the blogpost. Thanks @google for the disclosure and auditing Jupyter.
Releases:
- 3.2 release issue
- 4.0 release issue

afshin commented 2 years ago

JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 18, 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Fictional Villain
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	Randall Flagg
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	Dr Claw
Vidar T Fauske	JPMorgan Chase	@vidartf
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Layne Sadler	Julia Computing	@aiqc	Lich King (wow/lotr)
Pete Blois	Google Colab	@blois	Dr Strangelove
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
William Stein	SageMath	@williamstein	Frank Underwood (House of Cards)
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	Ozu from The Tatami Galaxy
Brian Granger	AWS/Cal Poly	@ellisonbg
Michał Krassowski	U Oxford	@krassowski	sentiment analysis with Vader
Avish Mehta	Student	@avishmehta68710
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Luciano Resende	IBM	@lresende
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro

Agenda

Isabela
- Jupyter community call is in two weeks! Yay! More info on discourse
- Quick feedback on how blind and visually impaired students are working around Jupyter inaccessibility. The main feedback is around getting code out of cells and in a place they can accessibly work on it. This add-on was also mentioned.
Martha
- Small Settings UI demo!
Frederic
- recurrent Jupyter Performance Meeting set up (thanks to Zach)
  It will be every 4 weeks after this meeting - next will be on September 1st 10am PT meeting notes - archived on GitHub
  - (william) I want to try to invite some people from collab/nteract -- how? It's particularly useful, since they have experience with fully implementing other approaches, e.g., Monaco editor, react, etc.
- JupyterLab review
  - Backport of Firefox toolbar style fix #10849
  - Maintenance camelcase #10500
    Needs to look at the CodeQL Regex error.
Darian
- Help wanted for this call!
  - I (@fcollonval) could help with that
  - @ajbozarth is willing to help too
Brian
- Do we have a POC for the recent CVE?
  - There are POCs in the Security Advisories for those with access (in comments), we can post them to the security mailing list
- Jupyter Security Group - https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/project-jupyter-security-subproject/10175/8
Steve
- Still working on automated releases, slow going. The Check Release builds are currently failing due to a release of jupyter_releaser this morning.
- JupyterLab v3.1.7 and v4.0.0a4 released this week
Vidar
- I saw this PR had some feedback that caused a revert: #9616. Do we need to report notebook version: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/blob/77c49ea615854a8b7d956ccb4127bace3ca213fc/jupyterlab/labapp.py#L727
Mike
- Highlighting issue "Cells not rendering or loading and code seems lost in jupyterlab notebook" #10840 - help in narrowing it down/solving very welcome

Additional Discussion

Layne: If time allows, the "Ju" in Jupyter. Pluto. History?
- JUlia PYThon R

afshin commented 2 years ago

JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 25, 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Flower
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	afshin	crocus sativus (saffron crocus)
Steve Silvester	Apple	blink1073	sunflower (the radioactive ones in TMNT 2)
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Kevin Jahns	Yjs / QuantStack	@dmonad
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Dahlia
tonyfast	quansight	@tonyfast	top shelf
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	morning glory
William Stein	SageMath, Inc (CoCalc)	@williamstein	Iris
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Theodore Aptekarev	Independent	@piiq	lavender
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	all? cool flower
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	Plumeria
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	osteospermum
Brian Granger	AWS, Cal Poly	@ellisonbg	?
Vidar T Fauske	JPMorgan Chase	@vidartf	orchids
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan

Agenda

Frederic:
- Translations
  - Documentation translation update policy (strings should not change in a patch release)
  - Add CI to check source strings are not change by a PR
- CSS Icon deprecation PR10908
- Galata PR10796 in 3.2.x as @jupyterlab/galata @4.0.0
Steve
- JupyterLab 3.1.8 and 4.0.0a5
  - The testutils package was not populated due to #10891, hot fix coming in #10916
- There is now a separate lint check that uses TypeScript, that does not run by default on commit see #10900 - will be much faster and less intrusive
- Still working on automated release fixes
Jason
- Assigning issues - we have a number of people requesting issues be assigned to them in the GitHub interface so that they can work on them. Sometimes these new contributors are optimistic about fixing an issue and a PR does not eventually come, but the issue is not ever unassigned (thus it appears to be "taken" to other new contributors). I would suggest as a policy that either:
- in general, we not assign an issue to a person (an exception would be assigning a short list of issues to people in the final phases of a release when there is time pressure to finish that final set of issues, and we are documenting a short time-limited commitment from people to fix issues before a release)
- or at least that we not assign an issue to a new contributor until after they have submitted a reasonable PR fixing the issue.
- Based on the discussion in the meeting, I'll put a PR somewhere in the docs that says:
  - we encourage someone that wants to work on an issue to post a comment on the issue
  - we generally don't assign issues to people
  - we encourage draft PRs to be opened early in the development process and linking the draft PR back to the issue
- Also, we could extend the bot to flag new PRs by first-time contributors for attention.
Isabela
- Can we add the Jupyter discourse to the resources at the top of the mailing list?
- Do we have a "don't show this again" or similar checkbox or settings for some dialogs?
  
  It was introduced for the renaming untitled files but it was not generic (and the feat. has been reverted).
- Jupyter Community Call is next week! You can get more info on discourse
Carlos
- Undo manager capture timeout
  - We are using the default (500ms), which groups sentences. This is the behavior of every OS and editor but Apple software. Apple capture every character individually. What behavior should we adopt? Or should we make it configurable?
  - (william) Apple maybe doesn't do it every character anymore. CoCalc is similar, but a longer timeout, and I'm not sure I like it.
  - Colab seems to group undos by a similar amount of time.
- Document or cell level history tracking?
  - The old behavior was a cell level history tracking and with the RTC we made it document-wide. Now cells and typing changes are mixed in the same undo manager. What behavior should we adopt
  - https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10791
  - https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/jupyter-command-notebook-undo-cell-action-not-working-as-expected/10484
  - (william) cocalc-jupyter is also document level rather than cell level, and I've not heard a complaint from our users about this in years. User configurable would seem optimal though...
Brian
- Cal Poly/Jupyter interns are giving their final presentations today and tomorrow
  - https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/jupyter-internship-jupyterlab-extension-presentations/10469
  - Feel free to join, but please don't Tweet far and wide (we have limited capacity).
  - The plan is to record and post on Youtube for wider consumption
- Data registry/explorer
  - Piyush (@3coins) and I are starting to work on the data registry/explorer again.
  - The goal is the simplify and focus in on key user stories.
  - Starting to open issues for discussion
  - If you are interested in this, please join the discussion and/or reach out to Piyush or I.
Vidar
- File filter vs file "quick-find" mechanism seems to overlap, and could probably benefit from a overhaul. See also https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10911
Martha
- Based on this spec modified fields that are very long make the modified fields section a little long / awkward? suggestion - indicator next to modified fields / keep plugin settings together

Additional Discussion

Frederic:
- Galata PR10796 Demo -> Next week
Darian / Pete / William
- In RTC we should look at history to rewind, debug, etc.
  - I was talking to some users yesterday and they asked for a L/R panel that has a list of the timestamped versions of the doc.
- William mentioned that their current collaborative meetings in CoCalc don't have the problems we were experiencing. What changed? Was it a technical change (refining the cocalc rtc implementation), or a behavioral change (understanding better how to collaborate)?

afshin commented 2 years ago

JupyterLab Weekly Call, September 1, 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Dinosaur
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	peregrine falcon
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	stegasaurus
F. Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
W. Stein	SageMath	@williamstein	Pyrex-o-suarus
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Apatosaurus
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	raptor
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Gonzalo Peña-C	Quansight	@goanpeca	T-rex
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Troodon
Brian Granger	AWS/Cal Poly	@ellisonbg

Agenda

Frederic:
- Galata #10796 Demo
  - The one regression compared to previous Galata is that this new implementation does not have the ability to connect to an external browser session, which we discourage anyway.
  - We are also in the process of archiving the galata repo: https://github.com/jupyterlab/galata/issues/81
- Benchmark in CI #10936
- Doc theme change to use pydata theme #10834
Steve
- JupyterLab v3.1.10 and v4.0.0a7
- jupyterlab-probot Demo (using Probot)
Vidar
- Building a project with TS 4.4 and deps on jupyterlab packages complain about a few jupyterlab and lumino typings. It mainly seems related to lib.d.ts changes.
Jason
- Nomenclature for "document-wide history": https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10949#issuecomment-908458440
- (ws: I guess in CoCalc we call that "the TimeTravel History".)
- It would be great if the name of this concept could also be applied to search, i.e., the scope of the search being in a single cell vs through the whole document.
- Please comment on the PR with any ideas or preferences you have.
Brian
- Misformatting of markdown lists? On some lists in this doc, the second level items have a blank line above them. Looks like it was due to the empty lines between the primary items...
- Dataset definition
Mike: PyPI classifiers for JupyterLab are available
- See https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/9538, https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10731

Additional Discussion

Darian / Pete / William (from last week)
- In RTC we should look at history to rewind, debug, etc.
- I was talking to some users yesterday and they asked for a L/R panel that has a list of the timestamped versions of the doc.
- William mentioned that their current collaborative meetings in CoCalc don't have the problems we were experiencing. What changed? Was it a technical change (refining the cocalc rtc implementation), or a behavioral change (understanding better how to collaborate)? [Answer from William: mostly just fixing bugs. You didn't have these problems when using hackpad? Example bug right now: every time somebody types the preview on the right keeps scrolling back to the top, which is annoying and hard to use.]
- The coolest undo interface Jason has used is the undo tree interface in Emacs or Vim
- A user might want to use global history vs local history in different phases in their work. For example, if they are iterating quickly in different cells, they may want a local cell undo. If they are trying to revert the document to the working state from yesterday, a global rollback mechanism is valuable.

Proposed dataset interface

https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab-data-explorer/blob/4beec8bf7a5d2cfb68985d4452fd6215f6f424bf/packages/dataregistry/src/dataset.ts

export interface Dataset<T extends JSONObject, U extends JSONObject> {
  /**
   * Unique identifier for the dataset, for in-memory
   * datasets, a unique uuid might be provided.
   * This id should be unique across a jupyter server instance.
   */
  id: string;
  abstractDataType: string;
  serializationType: string;
  storageType: string;
  /**
   * Output value for the dataset
   */
  value: T;
  /**
   * Additional properties for the dataset
   * that help serialize or query data
   */
  metadata: U;
  title: string;
  description: string;
  tags?: { [key: string]: string };
  version?: number;
}

afshin commented 2 years ago

JupyterLab Weekly Call, September 8, 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Ancient Monument
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	Göbekli Tepe
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	The Mount Baker Volcano
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Loïc Huder	ESRF	@loichuder	Angkor Wat
Brian Granger	AWS/Cal Poly	@ellisonbg
Kevin Jahns	Yjs / Quantstack	@dmonad
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	Barbican London Wall
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	just found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith for good reading :)
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Youness Bennani	Bloomberg	@bsyouness	Ek Balam
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	Jantar Mantar
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	Galata Tower :)
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	2001 Monolith
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Stonehenge
Max Klein	JPM	@telamonian
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	rosetta stone

Agenda

Loic
- Working on null file format (part 2) => https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10757
- New jupyterlab-hdf5 release bringing support for external/soft links. JLab3 release on the works.
Brian
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10949#issuecomment-914973693
- In cocalc, William solves the simultaneous cell edit/move problem by just maintaining a "position" metadata field on each cell, and when a cell is moved, the position is just updated, i.e., it doesn't actually change an array datastructure. Caveat: you have to ensure the positions are unique. The position is a float so it is easy to insert between two other positions. Periodically, one of the processes renumbers all the cells as integers to take care of precision issues (it looks like maybe in the code now that is done by the client doing the cell move, since they can change anything globally anyways).
- Regarding the discussion about moving objects in CRDTs: There is a discussion about it on the yjs discussion https://discuss.yjs.dev/t/moving-elements-in-lists/92 (Brian & William). Moving elements in a CRDT is not trivial but definitely possible. However, it always comes with tradeoffs. There is a solution described that sounds fairly similar to William's solution.
Isabela
- Jupyter accessibility workshops are starting on October 2 and 9! We would like to have some more event moderators from the community. (More specific announcements to come!)
Max
- yarn v3 upgrade!
- almost done
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10929
- one last problem: jlpm run vs yarn run (vs $npm_execpath run) in ensure-buildutils.js and other related scripts that might run as part of pip install ... before jlpm is properly installed
  - under discussion: move jlpm entrypoint to jupyterlab_server
Frederic
- End of 3.1.x to start 3.2.x?
  Need to sync with @goanpeca to list if all 3.2.x feat. are ready.
- Performance: status bar item position unstable - maybe related to #9910
- Translation:
  - Settings are now translated before being served (JLab server 2.8+)
  - What about the documentation?
    It should be its own project on Crowdin. Ideally an intermediate step could be to get the translated text from the UI text; like sentence You can access that feature through the File menu.

Additional Discussion

Duplicate Design System CSS GitHub label? Can we remove?
- Design System CSS
- tag: Design System CSS
- used in labeler

afshin commented 2 years ago

15 September 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite semi-precious material
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	amber
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	turquoise
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	tungsten
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Kevin Jahns	Yjs / Quantstack	@dmonad	clay
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Mithil Poojary		@mithil467	titanium
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	chicken-blood stone
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@nrbgt @bollwyvl	coprolite
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Mike	Oxford	@krassowski
Konstantin Taletskiy	Axle Informatics/NIH NCATS	@ktaletsk	emerald

Agenda

Martha
- Draft PR for settings ui https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11079! I have a list of questions there if anyone could take a look
  Remove dependency on third-party library for ui-components
Jeremy:
- Feedback on extension authoring https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11075
  - https://github.com/wolfv/jupyterlab-dynext is an interesting development to making extension development easier/lower barrier.
- The Jupyter Releaser works well with JupyterLab Extensions :+1: (see cookiecutter config)
Frederic
- Remove old phosphor class to reduce CSS class stack (goal improve performances by reducing style computation complexity)
  - This implies upgrading @lumino packages to the next major version
  - Opportunity to update typescript
  - Need to wait for IPyWidgets v8 to be compatible to lumino
  - other things we had considered for lumino 2.0: Better react integration Use native iterators instead of the custom lumino ones Provide ways to consume signals using ReactiveX
    Meta-issue opened https://github.com/jupyterlab/lumino/issues/233
Mehmet
- Desktop App upgrade to JupyterLab 3.1.10 along with dev tooling upgrades
  - Generates GUI installers for macOS, Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat, Fedora and Windows
  - Bundles a conda environment using Constructor
  - GitHub Actions integration
  - https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab_app/pull/191
  - Installers at https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab_app/actions/runs/1235190813
Konstantin
- JupyterLab LaTeX extension
- jupyterlab-latex 3.1.0 - federated extension now
- Becoming a maintainer?
  - +1 from @jasongrout to you becoming a maintainer for jupyterlab-latex - thanks! @blink1073 - I added you as a maintainer on the repo
- Incoming group of 5 Georgia Tech students working on Computer Science Junior Design Capstone project we proposed. Improvements to LaTeX experience in JupyterLab:
  - bibliography tools
  - journal templates repository
  - drag-and-drop support for plots and data frames from Jupyter notebook into the editor
  - simplified uploads of figures into the publications
  - UI to quickly create tables, equations and find mathematical symbols
- Discussion: do these features belong in the extension? Or is it something out of scope/should be in separate extension?
  - ~~CoCalc/Colab perspective: How do we support notebooks with bibliography (say) in a consistent way...?~~ (I thought this had to do with Jupyter notebooks, but it doesn't.)
Steve
- JupyterLab v3.1.12 - First fully automated stable release!
  - To learn how to use the releaser, good places are the configuration files for other repo: jupyterlite, voila
- JupyterLab v4.0.0a9 and JupyterLab v4.0.0a10 (in progress during meeting)
- Configurable Probot Binder link - opt-in, currently used in JupyterLab and Lumino

Additional discussions

Frederic
- benchmark tests
  - [Michal] It seems there is a bit of a jitter due to VMs with different processors being assigned. Would it be a good idea to try to divide the time by some performance score from a third-party benchmark of a processor and show it as "normalized score" in addition to time lapsed?
  - Another option is a self-hosted runner that only runs on push, maybe using our project AWS credits. https://docs.github.com/en/actions/hosting-your-own-runners/about-self-hosted-runners
    I think the best we can do is deal with the runner differences and have a large threshold for change, which is what this action does: https://github.com/rhysd/github-action-benchmark Follow up :construction: change the logic to switch to manual to launch more experiments to improve statistical information by comparing the base node of the PR and the head (we want to be independent of the evolution of master).
- Sponsors: What about adding NumFocus sponsor badge on JupyterLab projects as conda-forge does? jupyter.org uses this link

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

22 September 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite season
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Fall
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	winter
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidartf	no
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	Early Spring
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	Summer
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Fall
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Fall
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos	Winter
Afshin T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	Autumn
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	Fall
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	autumn
Rebecca Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Spring
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	Summer

Agenda

Jason
- Transferring https://github.com/wolfv/jupyterlab-dynext to the JupyterLab organization. See proposal at https://github.com/jupyterlab/team-compass/issues/129
Isabela
- This month's Jupyter community call is happening in the upcoming Tuesday! Feel free to join! You can find more info on Discourse
- We have a JupyterLab accessibility meeting fifteen minutes after this call. Anyone is welcome!
Mehmet
- JupyterLab Desktop App v3.1.12-1 released
- Bug fixes and release workflow
- Announced on Jupyter Blog https://blog.jupyter.org/jupyterlab-desktop-app-now-available-b8b661b17e9a and Twitter
- Related from Brian: NumFOCUS has an organizational Apple Developer Account and we are working with Mehmet and NF to sign the macOS JupyterLab application
Frederic
- Release of v3.1.13
Jeremy
- Rename jupyterlab_app to jupyterlab-desktop? https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab_app/issues/222
- Simplify the JavaScript cookiecutter?
  - Original issue: https://github.com/jupyterlab/extension-cookiecutter-js/issues/36
  - Comment: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11075#issuecomment-922911231
Kevin
- Proposing changes for Jupyterlab 4
  - Remove ModelDB for improved performance
  - Initialize the document model (using Yrs) on the server and enable collaborative editing by default.
  - Note: Yrs = rust version of yjs; Ypy = python version.
Wendy
- Issue Reconnect to running session: keeping output
  Kevin hopes to be able to address this with the RTC work

Additional discussions

UI variants: RetroLab / Simple Mode / JupyterLab / ...
- Rationalize modern Jupyter front-end offerings: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/9869
- Nick: the problem of RetroLab in regards to extension is mainly the lack of sidebars that brings trouble to support JupyterLab and RetroLab at the same time.
- Tony: RetroLab allows to ease move from the classical notebook. And it is a nice variant to focus on the document.
- Brian: Is it a possibility to have a smooth transition between a document focus UI and the multi-panels UI?
Quick 4.0 overview
- Martha is working on the Settings UI
- Mike is working on the completer api
- Project view for 4.0 roadmap issues: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/projects/12#card-65140974
Standardized sidebar
Allow extension to easily open/link a sidebar with a main area wiget
https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/8650#issuecomment-657319995

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

29 September 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite music instrument
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	trumpet
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	Harpsichord
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidartf	Contra-Bassoon
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	xylophone
Tony Fast	Quansight	@tonyfast	trash
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan	piano
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Accordion
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Trumpet
Zach Sailer	Apple	@Zsailer	Guitar
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	Piano
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	Synth
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	French horn is nice
Rebecca Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Upright Bass
Adam Patterson	UM	@adpatter	conchs
Kevin Bates	IBM	@kevin-bates	Talking drum
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x	Bass drum
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	vocal cords?

Agenda

Zach
- Come checkout Notebook weekly meeting:
  - Wednesdays 8:30am Pacific
  - Meet on the Jovyan Zoom
- Non-unique cell-ID in Notebook issue: https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/issues/6001
  - Need frontend help to fix this issue.
- Bigger question about Notebook end-of-life.
- Jupyter Community Calendar is here: https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/jupyter-community-calendar/2485
Frederic
- Performance meeting just after this one
- Drop of Blueprint: #11173
Mehmet
- JupyterLab Desktop App Release
- Released v3.1.13-1 (https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab_app/releases)
- Bug fixes & enhancements
  - Windows re-launch issues
  - Classic Notebook launch problem
  - Automated JupyterLab version upgrade
- Stats (past week)
  - GitHub: 50 stars to ~1100 stars. 2nd most starred project in jupyterlab org now
  - Twitter: 150k impressions, 10k total engagements, 1300 likes
- Most requested features
  - Launching from commandline (directory & file)
  - Ability to connect another conda env
    - numerous comments about this on the Hacker News Discussion, e.g., "It comes with it’s own conda environment. But can it ran in my conda environment? Which is pretty much a requirement for any serious project."
  - Ability to connect to remote env
Carlos
- Move jupyterlab-js-logs to core:
  - Discussion: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/8877
  - JupyterLab_app would benefit to debug extensions.
  - Carlos is volunteering to maintain it for now
- Add a new package IUser to core
  - Discussion: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10965.
  - PR: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11180
  - The PR introduces three new plugins:
    - ICurrentUser that provides a representation of the connected user, the idea is that some extensions will require this plugin to modify the information (an extension for Hub to fetch the user info from the backend), and other extensions will require the user just to read the information (docprovider to use this identity in RTC, or and extension to add comments in a notebook)
    - IUserMenu that adds a new menu to the JupyterLab toolbar with the current user's name allows anonymous users to rename themself and provides a lumino menu where extensions can add different buttons to actions related to the user (Login with GitHub, Logout, settings, ...).
    - IUserPanel (Maybe needs to be renamed) it's a side panel to add info about the current user and the shared document (who is collaborating, what permissions they have, ...)
      - In cocalc a nice little feature is that you can click on the user's avatar and it scrolls your document to the place where they are editing.
Steve
- 3.2 release timeline
  - Beta released yesterday
  - Changelog
  - RC next week and final on the week of 11 Oct?
  - Remaining PRs:
    - Galata (in progress)
    - Show/Hide Hidden Files (blocked on a technical issue, might need to defer)
    - Customize toolbar items (needs manual backport)

Additional discussions

I have a Lumino question - if there is time (Adam Patterson).

Link to Lumino videos series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFx5GKe0BTjQyCKtiK9TI-ekSuSn_8a3J

Discussion on line endings There is a implicit conversion of file ending to normalize it (with \n) to avoid synchronization warning. Question: should we remove the debugging code linked to the line ending? :+1: Vidar / Pete and Vidar supports having the dialog because it informs the app is in a broken state

ajbozarth commented 2 years ago

6 October 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite animated TV show
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	Gurren Lagann
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	South Park
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	Daniel Tiger
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Star Trek: Lower Decks
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	X-Men
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	Family Guy
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Batman: The Animated Series
Luciano Resende	Apple	@lresende	Dungeons & Dragons
Tony Fast	Quansight	@tonyfast	Animaniacs
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003)
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Aeon Flux
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	The Tatami Galaxy
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	Timon & Pumbaa
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x

Agenda

Steve
- Working 3.2RC0. Currently blocked by an issue related to hashing and Webpack. Still debugging.
Mehmet
- Desktop App command-line launch support and .ipynb double click open support
- jlab . or jlab ../relative-dir/another to open directories
- jlab ../relative-dir/test.ipynb or jlab /absolute-dir/test.py to open files
- Open to suggestions for alternative command name
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab_app/pull/273
Jason: Document-wide undo/redo questions
- Discussion
- Initial PR
- Follow-up PR
- To enable 3.0 behavior, set Notebook.experimentalDisableDocumentWideUndoRedo to true (after
- Discussion:
  - We should support the 3.0 local undo/redo behavior as the default if the --collaborative flag is not enabled. The current implementation comes close, but technical difficulties mean that moving a cell kills the undo functionality in that cell moving forward. Possible solutions include:
    - We can actually go back to the 3.0 implementation (punting to CodeMirror undo/redo) without too much trouble for non-collaborative situations, according to Kevin. We might have to actually delete and insert a new codemirror, but we should be able to copy the undo history over to the new codemirror. Kevin said he would engage more on this idea.
    - William suggested that maybe a hack is to delete and add a new cell when moving a cell in order to get the undo/redo history going forward, even if past undo history is deleted.
Isabela
- Do we have review guidelines for the project?
  - We don't have explicit review guidelines
  - The ladder of feedback article was mentioned as a way to clearly communicate the importance of various review feedback.
  - We discussed the value of having mentors that can help new contributors, acknowledging that it is also a resourcing difficulty, but also emphasizing that anyone can help new contributors, including other newer contributors.
Nick
- Lite server extensions (might drop, sooo https://github.com/jupyterlite/jupyterlite/pull/352)
  - third parties can make new kernels
  - eventually storage
  - https://github.com/jupyterlite/p5-kernel
  - https://github.com/jupyterlite/echo-kernel
  - further highlights the underlying weight of "core"
  - realtime collaboration (could replace using mybinder for our notes in this meeting!)
  - more web assembly kernels, e.g., Lua, Zeus
  - widgets fully supported already
  - translations work

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

13 October 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Planet
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Neptune
Johan Mabille	QuantStack	@JohanMabille	Earth
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	Earth
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	Earth
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Pluto
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Eris
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	Mars
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan	Venus
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	Pluto
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Kevin Jahns	QuantStack / Yjs / Church of VIM	@dmonad	Jupyter
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	Saturn
Tony Fast	Quansight	@tonyfast	Mars
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski	Mars
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	Earth
Cameron Durbin	ParaTools	@platinumcd	Saturn
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidartf	Neptune
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x	Pluto
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins	Earth
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Mars

Agenda

Alex
- Elyra has released 3.2 with support for custom kfp pipelines https://github.com/elyra-ai/elyra/discussions/2191
Johan
- Working on a migration to codemirror 6.
- Will open a draft PR as soon as have something that is ready to look at.
- Look at dropping the abstract editor interface in a follow-up PR.
Mehmet
- Released Desktop application v3.1.18-1 (jlab command line, double click open support and auto check for updates)
- Renamed from JupyterLab App to JupyterLab Desktop
- Download stats: https://somsubhra.github.io/github-release-stats/?username=jupyterlab&repository=jupyterlab-desktop&page=1&per_page=5
Jeremy
- Should we move RetroLab to core JupyterLab?
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/9869#issuecomment-936714230
- Mike: having a separate landing page in docs so that users can be pointed to this page when they ask for "classic experience". Separate repo has this benefit.
- Tony: Retrolab is very good example of re-use of JupyterLab framework.
- Jeremy: we could also create a new repo / cookiecutter that shows how to build custom JupyterLab apps. Like the ones under examples/, but more visible and outside of the main repo. An example could be simple page with a single cell on it for executing code, which some people in the educational space have been asking for.
- Steve
  - JupyterLab 3.2rc0 released last week
  - Final release tomorrow
Frederic
- Components library
  What about web components like Fast Design - Microsoft or Lit - Google
  Example of deriving VSCode components using Fast: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-webview-ui-toolkit @Pete Colab is using web custom components part of it built on Lit One complex situation is for multiple libraries to register their custom components and dependencies on the global window.
- Related question: is there anyone using storybook? We have it in the ui-components package, but it has caused problems in upgrading (namely requiring older versions of react, which may have been solved in upstream storybook now, but could also be an issue in the future too.)
Mike
- https://github.com/jupyterlab-contrib/jupyterlab-spreadsheet-editor has new home
- https://github.com/jupyter-lsp/jupyterlab-lsp/ has a new home
Piyush
- Added button theme variables: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11264
Jason
- Renamed the dynext extension to jupyterlab-plugin-playground, transferred to JupyterLab github org, and released jupyterlab-plugin-playground prebuilt extension on pypi (and npm package @jupyterlab/plugin-playground).
Vidar
- Working on loading prebuilt extensions from a CDN for npm. We have issues with:
- the basic metadata is in 'package.json', but npm doesn't like the file to be named that. Perhaps we can change the file name? (will create issue for this)
- JLab doesn't know how to handle settings, since the settings schema aren't on the server
- JupyterLite has some logic to handle settings coming from federated extensions: https://github.com/jupyterlite/jupyterlite/blob/main/packages/settings/src/settings.ts
Tony
- From the notebook meeting discussion, should we use 4.0 to advertise migrating to JupyterLab: RTC, Desktop app, debug with ipykernel,... .

Additional discussions

I feel like the last columns in the Attendees list in these meeting notes are slowly asking me for all my security questions.. :D
- that is part of the reason why I (another person) often leave them blank

isabela-pf commented 2 years ago

I feel like the last columns in the Attendees list in these meeting notes are slowly asking me for all my security questions.. :D

that is part of the reason why I (another person) often leave them blank

This is a great point! Are there any recommendations for fun questions that won't risk this, or is it just putting personal information at all that is the concern?

williamstein commented 2 years ago

Could the questions instead be a little more specialized, so they can't possibly overlap with generic security questions? E.g.

Favorite Jupyter Kernel
Favorite Python PEP
Favorite Package on Pypi
Favorite microbenchmark

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:09 AM Isabela Presedo-Floyd < @.***> wrote:

I feel like the last columns in the Attendees list in these meeting notes are slowly asking me for all my security questions.. :D

that is part of the reason why I (another person) often leave them blank

This is a great point! Is there any recommendations for fun questions that won't risk this, or is it just putting personal information at all that is the concern?

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jasongrout commented 2 years ago

Could the questions instead be a little more specialized, so they can't possibly overlap with generic security questions? E.g.

Awesome idea. More:

favorite command line tool
favorite Jupyter frontend (maybe eye-opening to ask?? :)
least favorite command-line tool
favorite programming language
favorite git command

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

20 October 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Jupyter Kernel
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Python3
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	ipython 2.0
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	SageMath
Tony Fast	Quansight	@tonyfast	pidgy
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	Octave
Max Klein	JPM	@telamonian	ProxyProvider
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@nrbgt @bollwyvl	`@deathbeds/jyve-kyrnel-coffee-unsafe`
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	Echo
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	Xeus example
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan

Agenda

Isabela
- Accessibility meeting will be fifteen minutes after this one!
- Passing on The future of classic notebook issue from the notebook meeting.
- Jupyter Community meeting is next week October 26th
Martha
- Settings UI updates / questions PR
  - autosave?
    It sounds more natural to have auto-save
  - accordion - performance issue with menu settings
    Accordion looks nice
  - Grouping by namespace (like retrolab, jupyter-lsp)
    :+1: from @telamonian, @krassowski
    - how are validation errors highlighted?
  - JSON editor switch
    Jason proposed in the chat to move it to the toolbar; :+1: @fcollonval @rickmcgeer
  - performance issues on menu settings (lots of fields)
    - alternative renderer?
    - chat: table view or tree view?
    - review of how other editors approach it: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10091#issuecomment-833637858
  - can I change a couple schema fields in core?
    - https://react-jsonschema-form.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api-reference/uiSchema/
Steve
- 3.2.1 Released today
- Frontend and ServiceManager Class Refactor
- New repo for maintainer-tools?
  - Run a script as a maintainer
  - Common GitHub actions that can be used in other repos
    - :+1: for refactoring in a separate project @fcollonval
    - In which organization?
    - Steve - I'll open an issue in team-compass for discussion
  - 4.0.0a14 release during meeting
Mike
- Do we want to have a Popover instead of Popup (https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11299)
  :+1: @fcollonval
  @jasongrout: In bqplot, we use https://popper.js.org/ to get an automatically positioned popup.

Additional discussions

JupyterLab 4.0 roadmap:
- GitHub project
- Spreadsheet
FYI: Pydata Global is Oct 28-30. Kevin and Jeremy and many others are on the schedule.

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

27 October 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Package on Pypi
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	cycler
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	pickleshare
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	emoji
Jason Weill	AWS	none yet (I'm new)	none yet
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein	sagemath ("This is a dummy package...")
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski	antigravity
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	server
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Tony Fast	Quansight	@tonyfast	tonyfast
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Nick Bollweg	Georga Tech	@nrbgt @bollwyvl	pants

Agenda

Carlos
- ICurrentUser:
  - https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11180
  - MainAreaWidget header
    - https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/blob/3f4b8ca23be01353d1eb571cdfc3b08b19f132f0/packages/apputils/src/mainareawidget.ts#L143
    - Adding there the collaborators that are in the document
    - Make it a floating widget to not take so much space? Perhaps incoporate in the toolbar? [Nick comment] here's a pitch earlier re: screen real estate: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/45380/112164623-6b996d00-8bc4-11eb-8709-950c5696c9a2.png
    - [Tony] can we preserve real estate? especially when not in Binder/Hub
    - [Ely] would they float? [in discussion about preserving space]
      - [Nick] no other floating items in Lab currently, these feel weird
    - [?] Can we put it in the sidebar?
      - [Mike] can we have jump to cursor?
        
        [Jason G] we already have per-document sidebar properties
        
        [William] in CoCalc for the overall project, when you click on an avatar, you go to the document the user was last editing. When then click again with that doc opened, it goes to the cursor.
  - [William]:
    - You could make it stupidly easy for people to provide feedback when using collaborative jlab collaboratively? Add a button to provide feedback. I learned a huge amount doing that about what matters.
    - Do you plan to have chat on the side of documents ever?
    - In Cocalc: When you look at the file listing in a project, it shows collabs who are active on the project, and when you click on them, it opens the document they were last active on. Once that doc is open it looks exactly like what was just demoed… except the avatar fades out over time.
    - The number one thing I learned was that the core functionality of RTC has to work 99.99%, not 98%. Even the slightest edge case problems are very impactful.
- Add support for RBAC:
  - https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11355
  - The new interface IUser has the attribute role
Mehmet
- Released JupyterLab Desktop v3.2.1-1
- Upgraded to JupyterLab v3.2.1
- Fixes for export downloads, menubar visibility on macOS in maximized mode
- Other fixes & enhancements
- Working on code-signing for macOS with NumFOCUS
- Stats: ~1000 daily downloads
Frederic
- JupyterLab Performance meeting just after this one; meeting notes

Additional discussions

JupyterLab 4.0 roadmap:
- GitHub project
- Spreadsheet
  - jupyterlab-git integration: not likely to be moved into core, reomved from the release schedule; instead we will try to create a metapackage in contrib with "batteries included" and discuss if we can have it in Desktop by default, but as [Nick] says its install size is already large and we need to decide when it stops (do we include latex?) [removed from the project]
  - displaying variables: some work already merged, ongoing work on improvements [marked as merged]
  - better undo/redo: work in progress to enable moving cells without loosing history [moved to in progress]
  - user interface for workspaces: no one working on it? [left for now]
  - restart and re-run: no one working on it? [left for now]
  - syntax highlight in SQL: no one working on it? [left for now]
FYI: Pydata Global is Oct 28-30. Kevin and Jeremy and many others are on the schedule.
[Discuss] The future of the classic notebook interface: https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/issues/6210

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

3 November 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite git command
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	git rebase -i
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	whatever I need to get what I'm doing now done
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout	git pull
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	git stash
William Stein	SageMath	@williamstein	git commit -av
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	git push upstream -f
Jason Weill	AWS	@jweill-aws	git status
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x	git log
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	hg init
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	git bisect
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Kevin Jahns	Yjs / QuantStack	@dmonad	git shortlog -s
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	git clean
Tony Fast	quansight	@tonyfast	git submodule
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou	To archive and delete a branch: git tag archive/<branchname> <branchname> git branch -d <branchname>
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	git push --force
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski	stash

Agenda

Isabela
- Is this the only place that galata documentation lives?
- https://jupyterlab.readthedocs.io/en/stable/developer/contributing.html?highlight=galata#visual-regression-and-ui-tests (thank you!)
- Frederic also may be a point of contact for questions
- Archived previous version: https://github.com/jupyterlab/galata
Jeremy
- Add a command to open a file from a URL: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11387
- This download the file before opening it.
- william: I added some comments on the ticket...
Steve
- Handling of WebSocket Startup Errors. This is technically a bug fix and feature parity, but it also adds optional fields to Kernel.IModel. Thoughts on whether it can go into 3.2.x or if it needs to wait for 4.0?
Jason W
- Provide .vscode directory to recommend Prettier extension?
  :+1: from Mehmet, Frederic, Jason G
Carlos
- ICurrentUser:
  - To show collaborators per document, we have two option:
  - On the document header, which is simpler and every document has its own list of collaborators.
  - On a side panel where the widget will be shared by all the documents tracking and showing the collaborators from the active document.
- GitHub PR
Mehmet
- Released JupyterLab Desktop v3.2.1-2
- Support for JupyterLab Extensions (prebuilt), thanks to @krassowski
- Ongoing work on macOS code signing
- Ongoing work on Custom python environment support

Additional discussions

Overcrowded toolbar [Tony]: how to deal with overcrowded toolbar due to many extension buttons
- The new Reactive Toolbar helps a lot
- For 4.0, the user will be able to customize the toolbar through settings - see documentation This implies that the extensions will be updated to define their toolbar in the settings.
JupyterLab 4.0 roadmap:
- GitHub project
- Spreadsheet

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

10 November 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite command-line tool
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	awk
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio	yes
Jason Weill	AWS	@jweill-aws	watch
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	`rm -rf`
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Loic Huder	ESRF	@loichuder	`sl` (not a typo)
Tony Fast	quansight	@tonyfast	doit/nox
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan	man
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou	xargs
nick bollweg	georgia tech	@bollwyvl @nrbgt	`cowsay`
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins	find
Steven Silvester	Apple	@blink1073	podman
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidartf	grep
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf

Agenda

Frederic
- Keyboard shortcut parity for TOC extension in classic and Lab
- Breaking API changes for 4.0:
  - RTC (Changed to be defined)
  - Service Manager (Opened PR)
  - BluePrintJS Removal (merged)
  - Migration to CodeMirror 6 (WIP)
  - Quid notebook 7?
    - Configurable shell.add
      Probably not
  - Performance - Windowed notebook (WIP)
    - Search on model?
    - Remove ToC content preview?
    - Impact on heading collapsing?
- New SidePanel #11369
Steve
- Shifting roles and availability. Will be focusing more on backend/wider maintenance efforts like bots.
- Pending kernels prototype is released in 4.0.0a15 (requires also using client and server PRs).
Jeremy
- Drop managing source extensions with jupyter labextension? https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11336
- If yes, then which timeline?
  - Source extensions should work in JLab 4. Some source extensions (like Elyra) have not had the bandwidth to move to prebuilt yet. Other institutions may have skipped version 3, upgrading straight from 2 to 4, and thus missed the window to update to prebuilt extensions.
- Many pros
- Should this be limited to the user facing commands?
- Perhaps the part of jlab that is doing a monolithic build can be moved into a separate package that has a proper nodejs dependency.
Loïc
- Discussion on hierarchical nested data (arrays, dicts) explorer in cell output
  - Probably a good idea to start it as an extension to be more agile
  - Use regular-table or datagrid to deal with large dataset (the JSON React viewer won't be able to do it for large dataset)
Nick
- data driven Launcher?
  :+1: @fcollonval, @vidartf, @ajbozarth
  https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/3795
  https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/5031
  https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11275
- overrides.d?
  How to configure UI from file (like from a notebook)? Where to put that kind of info?
Tony
- notebook sunrise project board https://github.com/orgs/jupyterlab/projects/2
- Semantic tags https://github.com/jupyterlab/retrolab/issues/270
- ARIA in extensions
Jason and Ely
- Any update on the undo changes for 3.x? See https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10791#issuecomment-945848216 and https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10928
- Frederic opened a PR (https://github.com/yjs/y-codemirror/pull/19)
- Carlos is working on some RTC issues

Additional discussions

JupyterLab 4.0 roadmap:
- GitHub project
- Spreadsheet

hbcarlos commented 2 years ago

Regarding the undo manager issue to disable the document-wide history, Kevin is working on a new feature in YJS that will solve the issue. He will open a PR soon, but I'm unsure of the actual state.

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

17 November 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite programming language
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Python what else
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins	Python
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Jason Weill	AWS	@jweill-aws	TypeScript
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski	Python
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Scala
Jason Grout	Bloomberg	@jasongrout
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Eric Charles	Datalayer	@echarles
Jessica Xu	Quansight	@jess-x
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Smalltalk
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro
Pete Blois	Google	@blois
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl	logo
Martin Renou	QuantStack	@martinRenou	Not decided yet
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou	Lisp?
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas	C++
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Ahmed Fasih	Bloomberg	@fasiha	still waiting
tony fast	quansight	@tonyfast	markdown
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf

Agenda

Isabela
- Accessibility meeting is right after this one. Come join us!
Michał Krassowski
- I would like to add two new tags: tag:Collapsible Headings, tag:Virtual Rendering as there are quite a few bugs related to these features and it gets difficult to navigate them otherwise (they do not have a dedicated package). Does it sound good?
  - No objections, and several +1s.
team-compass
- transfer classic jupyter/notebook to the jupyterlab organization
  - In wait for governance update
Frederic
- Update reviewers list: call for help.
- (from @jasongrout): If you'd like to be a reviewer or triager, please put your github handle below. Typically we grant triage permissions rather liberally, and (actually, we don't have an official criteria for having merge permissions...this would probably be a good discussion at some point). Note that you can give reviews without having merge permissions, and we encourage you do so.
  - I'd like to be a reviewer — Jason Weill @jweill-aws
  - Jessica Xu @jess-x : Would love to be reviewer, have merge permission
  - Add me to the list - Piyush Jain @3coins
  - I would like to be a triager - Ely @ohrely
Darian
- Governance update: Software Steering Council
- Notebook 7 update: ProtoJEP, Draft JEP
  Please comments before next Friday meeting
Jason Weill
- Updating toc, toc-extension for RetroLab (new 3.2.x version being created by Steven S.?)
- My PR for retrolab: https://github.com/jupyterlab/retrolab/pull/275
- an example of a multi-level dev setup https://github.com/jupyter/accessibility
Mehmet
- Released JupyterLab Desktop v3.2.3-1
  - Support for custom Python environments in addition to the bundled environment. instructions
  - Upgraded to JupyterLab v3.2.3
  - Can we create a conda-forge package?
  - Nick says that having a conda package that contains its own environment is a no-go. If the package was changed to use the enclosing environment, that would be very different.
Jeremy:
- Enable Auto Merge? https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11436
  - Documentation on GitHub
  - We'll have discussion on the issue, and try it out if a few people want to and no objections.
- On-going work on feature parity with the classic notebook, for example scrolling of outputs
  - Tweak CSS for scrolled outputs: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11478
  - WIP in RetroLab: https://github.com/jupyterlab/retrolab/pull/288
Eric
- Opinions on Add usage messages and request Usage method in the Kernel API?
  - related to https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/4012 and https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter-resource-usage/issues/31 ?
  - Like the debug messages, experimenting with this in jlab and ipykernel is the first step, next step is proposing an official kernel message in the kernel message spec.
  - Nick mentions these as resources to report on:
  - cpu
  - gpu
  - memory
  - file handles
Carlos
- ICurrentUser: new PR https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11443
- RTC next steps: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11434
Nick
- Custom editor factories in retrolab
  - needs mad hacks e.g. replacing the editor, reinstantiating with _noref
Jason Grout
- Any update on the undo changes for 3.x? See https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10791#issuecomment-945848216
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/10928 was fixed
- Solving the cell move with maintaining the history is a tough problem that needs to be tackled in yjs - Kevin is working on it (ETA 2 weeks)
- There is a new issue on the undo of deleted cells issue which might be related: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11483 (?)
Martha
- Settings PR (https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11079) is out of draft and Frederic gave review - more review is welcome! Or just extra testing

Additional discussions

JupyterLab 4.0 roadmap:
- GitHub project
- Spreadsheet

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

24 November 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite favorite topics
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Sylvain Corlay	QuantStack	@SylvainCorlay
Rick McGeer	engageLively	@rickmcgeer	Obscure dictionary word
Pete Blois	Google	@blois
Nick Bollweg	Georgia Tech	@bollwyvl	downfall of society
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro
R Ely	Bloomberg	ohrely	ice cream flavor
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	favorite ancient monument
Konstantin Taletskiy	Axle Informatics/NIH	@ktaletsk	Favorite holiday food
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth
Martin Renou	QuantStack	@martinRenou	Favorite between Jupyter Notebook and JupyterLab
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou	Favorite books

Agenda

JupyterLab 3.x or 4.0 for notebook 7 issue
Currently RetroLab (to-be notebook 7) is based on lab 3.x branch. But some new features will be needed for it:

Customize widget position to fit with notebook layout
Add cells toolbar ([TBC] bringing jlab-enhanced-cell-toolbar in Lab)
Add tour (bringing jupyterlab-tour in Lab)
Cons for 3.x
If we do a release 3.x for it, this will strip more reasons to update to JLab 4.
If it is linked to 4, this avoid releasing notebook 8 after JLab 4 :wink:
An excuse for extensions authors to modify their extension to be compatible because the API has changed.
Pros for 3.x
[Mike] IMO for Notebook we need prebuilt extension manager
Less breaking changes?

[Afshin] it makes sense regarding the amount of work to be done for notebook v7 that it will be based on JLab 4. Moreover it will be better to not annoy extension authors that just got converted to NPM world to modify again their extensions because we bumped the major version.

Frederic
- Performance meeting after this one
- New reviewers: next steps?
  - Jason Weill @jweill-aws
  - Jessica Xu @jess-x
  - Piyush Jain @3coins
  - Ely @ohrely
  - [Mike] can I get triage/review on https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter.github.io (we got an influx of small PRs) - who to ask?
- Bug fix release and translatable string
  Should that PR be delayed https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11502?
- RTC trusted outputs
  https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11494
  - [Pete] origin of Colab's iframe outputs. rather than a dialog could it render the non-interactive outputs (text/plain) for remote outputs, with a button to allow switching to the rich mime types?
  - [Tony] accessibility
  - [Sylvain] a shield thing by untrusted output
  - [Mike] There is already a similar pattern with trust button for the html viewer.
- would you be OK with the arrows always being visible?
  Enhance collapsing heading PR
- Windowed notebook
Sylvain:
- Some boring CSS changes (removing flexbox for output areas) so that we can use break-inside: avoid-pages for printing notebooks (in nbconvert). https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11508
Nick
- JupyterLite update
  - offline/custom python wheels and mathjax
  - start introducing people to it in docs sites?
Mike:
- prebuilt extension manager - any work going here?
- To list the packages on PyPI, there is a deprecated API to list packages based on classifiers
- or use NPM to fetch the list and get the directions from package.json
- PyPI seem the best candidate.
- [Nick] extension install providers without concrete implementation :+1: @krassowski
- Bottom line: we should remove the installation part of the extension manager UI for JupyterLab 4 (keeping the listing part of the installed extensions)
  :+1: @SylvainCorlay @fcollonval

Additional discussions

N/A

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

01 December 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Ice Cream Flavor
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Rum Raisin
William Stein	SageMath	@williamstein	chocolate
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	i can't choose!
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou	Americone Dream
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	mint chip
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Bailey's
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Bubblegum
Ahmed Fasih	Bloomberg	@fasiha	rocky road
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Jason Grout	Databricks	@jasongrout	Homemade Vanilla?
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Theodore Aptekarev	No org 🤷‍♂️	@piiq	Lemon sorbet
Jessica Xu	☝️	@jess-x	Horchata
Martin Renou	QuantStack	@martinRenou

Agenda

Link to good first issues (good way to start contributing): https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22

Frederic
- New reviewers - who have rights to add them to triage?
  - Jason Weill @jweill-aws
  - Jessica Xu @jess-x
  - Piyush Jain @3coins
  - Ely @ohrely
  - Mike @krassowski
- RISE in JLab: help wanted - import local CSS files failure due to Content-Type = text/html and nosniff => Forbidden by browser
  Use files path to request the CSS
- Advanced benchmark
Carlos
- Add a user package to represent the current connected user
  - The user icon is only visible when the collaborative flag is true
  - Spacer in the topbar
- Remove document's content from ModelDB
  - Remove source from ModelDB
  - Remove metadata from ModelDB
  - Deduplicate outputs' state.
Isabela
- Today is the accessibility meeting! Come join in after this call.
Jeremy
- TypeScript 4.5: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11594
- Major version bump for JS packages soon
@jasongrout: Just FYI, I'm now working and contributing from Databricks
Tony & Ely
- A hands on jupyter accessibility sprint on dec 16 @ 9am pst (5pm gmt).
There's been recent activity on jupyter.github.io including some accessibility PRs that could use attention from people in the Jupyter organization.
Martin Renou
- RTC discussion: UX Show the currently focused cell by other collaborators https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter_collaboration/issues/109 Would love some feedback on this :)

Additional discussions

Link to JupyterLab 4 roadmap: GitHub project
Update on undo feature: additional tests are on their way on yjs to be able to bring it in JupyterLab then.

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

08 December 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Ancient Monument
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	Liberary of Alexandria
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein
Jason Weill	AWS	@jweill-aws	Great Pyramids
Vidar T Fauske	JP Morgan Chase	@vidartf
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Moai
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou	Hagia Sophia
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Parthenon
Martin Renou	QuantStack	@martinRenou
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins
Brian Granger	AWS	@ellisonbg
Kevin Jahns	QuantStack / Yjs	@dmonad
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
Sylvain Corlay	QuantStack	@SylvainCorlay
Johan Mabille	QuantStack	@JohanMabille
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	Machu Picchu
Matt Henderson	LBNL	@mlhenderson	Pyramids
Jason Grout	Databricks	@jasongrout	Obelisks?
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Jessica Xu	@jess-x
Michał Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf

Agenda

Frederic
- Right to update readthedocs for jupyterlab/benchmarks
- Proposal for a new weekly section: PRs pending review
Alex
- Elyra 3.3 has been released: Blog
- Open Question: Do we want to set a target date for 4.0 yet?
Martha
- Last part to finish in this PR is fixing visual regression tests - a little lost / stuck? Would anyone be able to point me to good documentation or maybe do a call to check out what's happening? [@fcollonval] I can do that - let's organize a public call if people want to take the chance to learn about galata. [@jtpio] It could be useful to link to other projects also using Galata, such as Voila, RetroLab, ipywidgets
Martin
- RTC: Show currently focused cells by other collaborators (this issue)
Kevin
- Local cell-based undo manager https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11640
Jeremy
- Clean up Frontend Typings (originally started by Steve): https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11537
- 4.0.0a16: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/releases/tag/v4.0.0a16
- Includes the major version bump of the JS packages. List of api-change merged PRs for the 4.0 milestone: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+label%3Aapi-change+milestone%3A4.0
Brian
- Draft of an improved JS magic
- https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/13376
Piyush
- Kernel auto re-connect stops after 7 attempts #11534
  - Possible fixes:
    - Make the limit configurable (throught settings?)
    - Wait for that JEP
Jason W
- How should we triage issues in our project? How do we mark already-triaged issues as such?
  - ~~Create a new label Needs triage?~~
  - Let's open an issue on the team-compass to settle (Jason W to do this, include Luciano)
Ely
- Accessibility Workshop 12/16 https://hackmd.io/JmEN6JIMTn6f9IKuLCoo0Q?view
Johan
- Migration to CodeMirror 6 https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11638
  - Ordering of extensions is important: [Nick] that happens in markdown-it extension. We should think to a way to do that in a generic way for complex case (for which rank is not enough).
Sylvain
- Printing notebooks
Carlos
- ICurrentUser: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11443
  - Remove StateDB -> added local storage
  - Discussion about colors
  - Removed role to discuss RBAC and open another PR for that property
Matt
- jupyterlab-contrib repos (favorites, recents), getting added?
  - [@fcollonval] Could you open an issue there please?
- question about xarray display (repr in notebooks) related PR
- catching up with current Lab
  - Link to [Archived meeting notes](https://github.com/jupyterlab/team-compass/issues/128

Additional discussions

JupyterLab 4:
- Target date?
- GitHub project
- Milestone

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

15 December 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Dish for Christmas
Alex Bozarth	IBM	@ajbozarth	Peanutbutter Balls
Johan Mabille	QuantStack	@JohanMabille
David Brochart	QuantStack	@davidbrochart
William Stein	SageMath/CoCalc	@williamstein
Craig Citro	Google	@craigcitro	pie
Martin Renou	QuantStack	@martinRenou	Turkey and Chestnuts
Martha Cryan	IBM	@marthacryan
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos	Puchero
Michal Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski
tonyfast	quansight	@tonyfast
Piyush Jain	AWS	@3coins
Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	Chinese Takeout
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Cheese soufflé
Sylvain Corlay	QuantStack	@SylvainCorlay	Champagne
Kevin Jahns	QuantStack / Yjs	@dmonad	Printen
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Cranberries
Matt Henderson	LBNL	@mlhenderson	Cookies
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	Chocolate Panettone
Jason Grout	Databricks	@jasongrout	Bratzeli
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Ahmed Fasih	Bloomberg	@fasiha	mapo tofu

Agenda

Tony/Ely
- Accessibility hands on workshop tomorrow @ 9am PST
JupyterLab 4:
- Target date? Not before end of Q1 2022
- Should we make a 3.3 release? https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11643
  - Triage list in mentionned issue at January 2nd weekly meeting
  - Target RC January 20th
- What API-breaking changes are still to be done? See https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/9647#issuecomment-965612826
  - RTC (Next steps on RTC jupyterlab/jupyterlab#11434) @hbcarlos
    - PR https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11434
  - Service Manager (Clean up Frontend Typings jupyterlab/jupyterlab#11537)
  - BluePrintJS Removal (Remove Blueprint jupyterlab/jupyterlab#11173)
  - Migration to CodeMirror 6 (WIP) @JohanMabille
  - Quid notebook 7? @jtpio
  - Configurable shell.add (Probably not) @fcollonval
  - Completer API (https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/10523) @hbcarlos @krassowski: by end of Feb
  - Performance - Windowed notebook (WIP) @fcollonval
  - Search on model? To be evaluated (WIP PR) @fcollonval The search should be moved at the model level.
  - Remove ToC content preview? @fcollonval The current implementation will break as for code preview it copies the DOM from the notebook.
  - Impact on heading collapsing? Should be ok PR opened
Alex
- Does anyone know of an extension suite (ie build using lerna) that uses pre-built extensions?
  - Mike: LSP
  - Jason: ipywidgets
  - Related discussion on gitter: https://gitter.im/jupyterlab/jupyterlab?at=61b112c9a9c8eb44c41dc2dc
Frederic
- Drop of storybook
- Proposal for a new weekly section: PRs pending review
  - :+1: @3coins
Johan
- First pass of migration to CodeMirror6 done: draft PR
  - [@jasongrout] This can bring a source of tension for extension authors migrating from notebook 6 to 7
    - [Sylvain]: part of notebook 7 JEP (accessibility/LSP)
    - [Isabela in chat]: communication/expectation management
  - [mike] what is the state of support for legacy syntax highlighting modes - do we need to give extesnion/kernel authors a heads up on the need to prepare any possible updates?
Jeremy
- JupyterLab 3.2.5: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/releases/tag/v3.2.5
- Clean up PRs
- Move the top area spacer to a different plugin: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11654
  - Ideas on a Toolbar-like interface to add items? Or keep it as is for 4.0?
- Remove the create:theme script: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11683
- Remove the add:sibling script https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11685
- Drop Python 3.6 for JupyterLab 4.0? https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/pull/11646
  - Drop compatibility or just drop testing?
  - Python 3.6 is End-of-Life this month, which means running 3.6 is a security issue after this month.
  - Scientific Python community advocated for dropping 3.6 in June 2020. Incidentally, the same proposal advocates for dropping support for Python 3.7 this month (Dec 2021).
  - Several people feel we should drop support for Python 3.6 in a Jan/Feb 3.3 release.
Carlos
- Remove document's content from ModelDB
  - Remove source from modelDB
  - Remove metadata from modelDB:
    - Replace the metadata object every time we want to add|remove|update an attribute.
    - Typed metadata (at least the attributes presents in NBFormat).
- RBAC:
  - Next steps on RTC
  - Add authorization layer to server request handlers
- ICurrentUser:
  - Identity API
  - Switching from user extension to user service

Additional discussions

Triage issue:
- PR for documenting it
- issue on team-compass
JupyterLab 4:
- GitHub project
- Milestone
How we handle names (firstName, fullName, familyName)
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11657
- [@williamstein] It is important to document what the software will do / what is the purpose of the name. This will orientate the choice of the user
- [@williamstein] Many sites have just "Name" and also a "username" (like @williamstein)... CoCalc has “first_name” and “last_name” and I really regret that and wish it was just “Name”. In CoCalc the name is used for: cursor, avatar (first letter), searching for collabs (can be set to unlisted), and showing in @mentions. In courses, we let the instructor set a fixed name they see for a given account, since students can change their names (this was requested by instructors).
- [@krassowski] Apple defines default/short/long/abbreviated styles: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/personnamecomponentsformatter
- [@tonyfast] all of these concepts are defined formally in the FOAF core http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#glance

These meetings will continue to be held through the holiday season (Dec 22, Dec 29).

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

22 December 2021

Attendees

Name	Affiliation	GitHub	Favorite Winter Sport
Frederic Collonval	QuantStack	@fcollonval	Eating cheese
Jason Weill	AWS	@jweill-aws	Ice hockey, eating bredele
William Stein	SageMath, Inc. (CoCalc)	@williamstein	Splitboard Mountaineering on Volcanoes
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou	Hot tubbing
Carlos Herrero	QuantStack	@hbcarlos
Sylvain Corlay	QuantStack	@SylvainCorlay	Eating Raclette
Karla Spuldaro	IBM	@karlaspuldaro	ice skating
Mehmet Bektas	Splunk	@mbektas
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely	complaining
Ahmed Fasih	Bloomberg	@fasiha	snowman-making
A. T. Darian	Two Sigma	@afshin	Hockey
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf	cleaning leaves out of gutters when it rains
Pete Blois	Google	@blois	Skate skiing
Matt Henderson	LBNL	@mlhenderson
M Krassowski	Oxford	@krassowski

PRs needing review

Agenda

Isabela
- How can I get review on a blog post I'd like to have on the Jupyter blog? (The blog contribution documentation doesn't seem to have the info I need)
Frederic
- JupyterLab monthly Performance meeting after this one
- jupyterlab/benchmarks reboot for advanced benchmark tests on GitHub CI
- jupyterlab_server released 2.10.1: changelog
  - Thanks to Steve
Carlos
- Remove document's content from ModelDB
- https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11602

Additional Discussions

mybinder - use of JupyterLite:
- Temporarily use JupyterLite for high-traffic links to mybinder.org: https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter.github.io/issues/513
- Should we move JupyterLite in JupyterLab organization and make it official?
  - What would be needed to have it official?
- [williamstein] From test at Cocalc, asynchronous events can result in troubles for displaying graphs,... (answer to Nick question: does anybody have a big con?)
- [SylvainCorlay] pyiode may not be the best way to bring CPython in the web
  - [williamstein] did lots of work on building CPython for the web
    I’ve been working on something like Brython for fun for a while, incidentally: https://github.com/sagemathinc/JSage/blob/main/packages/jpython/README.md
    https://github.com/sagemathinc/JSage/tree/main/packages/python
JupyterLab 3.3 - List of features to include:
- Please update/comment on https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/11643
Triage issue:
- PR for documenting it
- issue on team-compass
JupyterLab 4:
- GitHub project
- Milestone

This meeting will not be held next week (Dec 29).

fcollonval commented 2 years ago

The notes starting from January 2022 are in jupyter/retrolab#135

jupyterlab / frontends-team-compass

Weekly Team Meetings: Aug-Dec 2021 #128

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JupyterLab Weekly Call - August 4, 2021

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JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 11, 2021

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JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 18, 2021

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JupyterLab Weekly Call, August 25, 2021

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JupyterLab Weekly Call, September 1, 2021

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JupyterLab Weekly Call, September 8, 2021

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22 September 2021

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