TSmux Nightly BREAKS Audio compatibility between HW players !

[metagondria]

to my surprise i just found out that media files containing E-AC3 tracks are affected in a bad way once it has been remuxed by latest build of Tsmux Nightly !

Reading original untouched source containing EAC3 track, played just fine from usb stick on my smart HDTV. After remuxing (not recoding = passsthrough) that very same media file, teletuby throws the following error → audio format not supported ← !!!

That means the compatibility of all new created media files via tsmux nightly builds are ruined to some degree !!!! It will play in certain HW devices .. not ALL !!

JUST GREAT >_>

[jcdr428]

@metagondria can you please advise what is the last tsMuxer working version.

[metagondria]

@metagondria can you please advise what is the last tsMuxer working version.

You name it , i've used it.. To start off with latest build ofcourse... ALL the way Down to old 2.16.x >_>

Fyi, FFmpeg 6.x = Same incompatibility issue !

[jcdr428]

@metagondria you mean all the way down to 2.6.12 ? So I have no way to know what causes this bug. Note that reading pure eac3 is not mandatory for Blu-ray players, so it is not really a bug.

[metagondria]

@metagondria you mean all the way down to 2.6.12 ? So I have no way to know what causes this bug. Note that reading pure eac3 is not mandatory for Blu-ray players, so it is not really a bug.

To me it looks like more of an mux issue than anything else. Since the tele plays the eac3 tracks from the media file as is = untouched just fine.. ONLY when i remux that media file using tsmux, error pops up → Audio format Not supported !?

Like, no recode has been done just remux so the audio track itself hasn't been altered , yet.. no AUDIO .. just and because of an remux !!

Not A bug ? i beg the differ..

Fyi, the Tele is dated from 2013.. So i've tried tools developed arround that period just to check out if that would be it... Since newer tech requires newer updated tools sometimes you know.. And may break compatibility with the old , you know..

But allas , haven't found the right fix for it.. Other than to RECODE the Audio tracks from all my media files into another format >_> So, If its an bug.. IT's an very OLD existing BUG imo..

[jcdr428]

Can you please post a link for the sample that works, and the link for the remuxed sample that does not work ?

[metagondria]

Can you please post a link for the sample that works, and the link for the remuxed sample that does not work ?

Sure jc, it's the least i can do :)

check the → LINK

Just so you know, the audio track from the nonworking sample, keeps failing even if i remux that sample to another container (mkv, ts, m2ts ect).. I mean, once i mux an perfect working source file into another m2ts via tsmux, the compatibility is completely broken, and remux doesn't fix that anymore. Wich ussually does, but not in this case..

keep me posted..

cheers,

[jcdr428]

@metagondria the link is broken.

[metagondria]

@metagondria the link is broken.

I saw, that it wos downloaded several times so i took it down again. But i've uploaded better samples.

And to be exact, the issue is that the EaC3 in Mkv does play fine on the tele, but once muxed into m2ts with tsmux , the sound isn't supported message pops up !?

And i wonder if that has anything to do with the mux process you see ?!

Here's the →LINK←

cheers

[jcdr428]

The link includes an AC3 in working.m2ts and an EAC3 in non-working.m2ts ? I need a sample of a m2ts with EAC3 track, working on your player.

Edit : this is a link from the Kodi Wiki : M2TS @ 1080p/29.97 : does it work on your TV / does it break once muxed ?

[metagondria]

The link includes an AC3 in working.m2ts and an EAC3 in non-working.m2ts ? I need a sample of a m2ts with EAC3 track, working on your player.

Edit : this is a link from the Kodi Wiki : M2TS @ 1080p/29.97 : does it work on your TV / does it break once muxed ?

I have indeed uploaded 2 files.. an working .MKV file and a non-working .M2TS game both containing E-AC3 tracks though (no AC3 tracks !?)

The sample you have uploaded, doesn't work on my hd tv.. That's just the confusing problem... Me Too have DL m2ts samples with EAC3 from other sources, and the problem is that the EAC3 tracks is NOT SUPPORTED by my tele IF and ONLY IF it's in a M2TS container !?

Why is that do you think? I mean, the tele play's MT2S files just fine aslong the audio codec is AC3. but it supports EAC3 aswell but ONLY from MKV files !?!?!? That's what i don't understand.

The tele supports E-AC3 audio format just FINE, ONLY NOT when it's in a M2TS container !??? Is that a mux issue or something else ?

cheers,

[jcdr428]

Just so you know, the audio track from the nonworking sample, keeps failing even if i remux that sample to another container (mkv, ts, m2ts ect)..

Do I understand well that if you mux a working eac3 in tsMuxer then transmux the m2ts to mkv, the mkv does not work anymore on your TV ? What happens if you first demux the eac3 from the non-working m2ts, then remux to mkv: does the mkv work on your TV ? If not, it would mean that the demuxed eac3 is different from the original eac3, which would be worrying.

[metagondria]

Just so you know, the audio track from the nonworking sample, keeps failing even if i remux that sample to another container (mkv, ts, m2ts ect)..

Do I understand well that if you mux a working eac3 in tsMuxer then transmux the m2ts to mkv, the mkv does not work anymore on your TV ? What happens if you first demux the eac3 from the non-working m2ts, then remux to mkv: does the mkv work on your TV ? If not, it would mean that the demuxed eac3 is different from the original eac3, which would be worrying.

NO, ONLY M2TS files containing EAC3 doesn't work! Other formats like .mkv containing eac3 do just work fine on my tele , as i have mentioned several times !?

Interestingly enough, i have taken the nonworking m2TS and converted it to an MKV as you have suggested. So, just changed the container from m2ts To Mkv again using toolnix.. And the EAC3 audio works again on my tele !?

So, it seems my tele has dificulties playing EAC3 audio tracks from ONLY → M2TS ← containers !!!

SO AND AGAIN, is this an TS/M2TS / TSMUX issue or what ? THAT ↑↑ i dON'T GET !

But i have an large Movie/episode archive ... and i'll try to find an M2TS source containing EAC3 and try to playback that. If that doesn't work, i suspect the software/firmware from my tele doesn't support EAC3 in M2TS containers i guess..

Come to think of it, after doing some research.. i found out to MY BIG SURPRISE that E_AC3 is NOT a BLURAY = → M2TS standard !!!! That's an eye opener to me.. since Dolby Digital Company uses that Advanced Format that is needed for larger Home Cinema setups like 7.2 .. 9.1 systems

That's confuses me .. ↑

It's very much possible, my tele from that era (2013) wos restricted to the bluray standards from back then ... But ill try and check this out, using other content i have from my large video archive..

cheerrs,

[jcdr428]

Ok .. I close the issue, and ifever you find an eac3 m2ts that initially works then does not work after muxing, you can reopen the issue.

[metagondria]

Ok .. I close the issue, and ifever you find an eac3 m2ts that initially works then does not work after muxing, you can reopen the issue.

yep, i'll do that..