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[jywarren]

• Platform to build collaborations - link to something, like events or research notes
• tabs need emphasis (too minimal)
• autorotation of the notes section, or randomization or both
• carousel on front page top?

[ebarry]

Link to the work done last Barnraising on the Landing Page. it includes the Place map (sweet, Jeff just made this), and community map of organizers, staff, BoD: http://www.flickr.com/photos/recordandremember/8371504243/ http://publiclab.org/wiki/new-comer-landing-page

@lizbarry http://twitter.com/lizbarry

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Jeffrey Warren notifications@github.comwrote:

• Platform to build collaborations - link to something, like events or research notes
• tabs need emphasis (too minimal)
• autorotation of the notes section, or randomization or both
• carousel on front page top?

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[ebarry]

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

[jywarren]

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.com wrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

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[btbonval]

Instead of drop-down columns (items organized vertically, as is normal), how about drop-down rows (items organized horizontally)?

Click a menu, and a menu appears below it, taking up the same width and so on.

I think that might work better for mobile than the usual vertical dropdown.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren notifications@github.comwrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.com wrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

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[btbonval]

Also nothing prevents a menu from taking up, say, two rows. We don't want the top menu to do so, but for other menus that can be hidden it should be cool.

Top menu has height 5 em, click something on it and a new menu below it could pop out that is 10 em: two rows of new things to click on.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Bryan btbonval@gmail.com wrote:

Instead of drop-down columns (items organized vertically, as is normal), how about drop-down rows (items organized horizontally)?

Click a menu, and a menu appears below it, taking up the same width and so on.

I think that might work better for mobile than the usual vertical dropdown.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren notifications@github.comwrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.com wrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

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[jywarren]

Becki and I just did some quick brainstorming about this...

Could we keep "About" as a tab, but have it a drop down menu that clearly links to things such as "staff" "board" "How we're funded" "contact" etc. Things that people want to find quick, but that are buried?

I also really like some of the categories that, for instance, Sunlight Foundation uses: About Blog (free standing) Press and media Donate (we could make it not so prominent as the banner that drives you nuts) Issues/engagement (this could be where we discuss the projects that people are working on -- nuclear power plant mapping, a place for case studies) Tools/places like we currently have Participate/join community/get involved (a clear link to joining the PL community) Data analysis Tools: really clear links to our other tools-- MapKnitter, Archive, SpectralWorkbench and Infragram would be awesome. Its not clear to me how you access those via our site currently.

Anyways, thats an expanded response to this question, but trying to think about easier inroads for people as a person that loves dropdown menus on top bars on webpages :)

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.com wrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

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[jywarren]

Yeah sounds good -- if you can make a quick list of URLs I'll add them in. I.e. not sure if we have a page for Issues/Engagement yet, or get involved (we maybe have several for that).

Absolutely, we should link to Spectral Workbench and MapKnitter and Infragram, great idea.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Shannon Dosemagen shannon@publiclab.orgwrote:

Becki and I just did some quick brainstorming about this...

Could we keep "About" as a tab, but have it a drop down menu that clearly links to things such as "staff" "board" "How we're funded" "contact" etc. Things that people want to find quick, but that are buried?

I also really like some of the categories that, for instance, Sunlight Foundation uses: About Blog (free standing) Press and media Donate (we could make it not so prominent as the banner that drives you nuts) Issues/engagement (this could be where we discuss the projects that people are working on -- nuclear power plant mapping, a place for case studies) Tools/places like we currently have Participate/join community/get involved (a clear link to joining the PL community) Data analysis Tools: really clear links to our other tools-- MapKnitter, Archive, SpectralWorkbench and Infragram would be awesome. Its not clear to me how you access those via our site currently.

Anyways, thats an expanded response to this question, but trying to think about easier inroads for people as a person that loves dropdown menus on top bars on webpages :)

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.comwrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/jywarren/plots2/issues/172#issuecomment-26007509 .

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[jywarren]

On, it, will send shortly

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.com wrote:

Yeah sounds good -- if you can make a quick list of URLs I'll add them in. I.e. not sure if we have a page for Issues/Engagement yet, or get involved (we maybe have several for that).

Absolutely, we should link to Spectral Workbench and MapKnitter and Infragram, great idea.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Shannon Dosemagen <shannon@publiclab.org

wrote:

Becki and I just did some quick brainstorming about this...

Could we keep "About" as a tab, but have it a drop down menu that clearly links to things such as "staff" "board" "How we're funded" "contact" etc. Things that people want to find quick, but that are buried?

I also really like some of the categories that, for instance, Sunlight Foundation uses: About Blog (free standing) Press and media Donate (we could make it not so prominent as the banner that drives you nuts) Issues/engagement (this could be where we discuss the projects that people are working on -- nuclear power plant mapping, a place for case studies) Tools/places like we currently have Participate/join community/get involved (a clear link to joining the PL community) Data analysis Tools: really clear links to our other tools-- MapKnitter, Archive, SpectralWorkbench and Infragram would be awesome. Its not clear to me how you access those via our site currently.

Anyways, thats an expanded response to this question, but trying to think about easier inroads for people as a person that loves dropdown menus on top bars on webpages :)

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.comwrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/jywarren/plots2/issues/172#issuecomment-26007509 .

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Shannon Dosemagen Public Laboratory for Open Technology and Science 504.239.4642 publiclab.org @PublicLab

[jywarren]

Oh sorry I wasn't clear -- there is not enough space for more than the # of top-level header items we currently have. So we can put all of these into the existing ones, rename the existing ones, or come up with other places to put them.

We could alternatively have less important, right-side items disappear on smaller screens, which would let us have more menu items on larger screens.

I could see "Maps" becoming "Web tools" and "Research" and "Tools/Places" being combined to make space for "Participate". If "Blog" and "Donate" were added, which 2 would then disappear for smaller screens (like tablets and phones)? Would the "Donate" banner remain (i think it's more visible/better than a top-level menu item)

Also - you are accidentally posting to Github as me -- can you pick up on this issue thread under your username? Thanks: https://github.com/jywarren/plots2/issues/172#issuecomment-26093957

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Shannon Dosemagen shannon@publiclab.orgwrote:

About: Our work http://publiclab.org/about Staff http://publiclab.org/wiki/plots-staff Organizers http://publiclab.org/wiki/organizers Board http://publiclab.org/board Partners (need to create) Funding http://publiclab.org/wiki/how-public-lab-funded Press and Media http://publiclab.org/wiki/media Contact (need to create-- a page clarifying who to contact when)

Issues: (Place holder-- want to think a bit more about content here as we think through presenting case studies)

Tools/Places: Already in bar

Data Tools: (not sure if this is the best name for this tab?) MapKnitter.org Map Archive http://publiclab.org/archive SpectralWorkbench.org Infragra.org

Participate: Welcome! http://publiclab.org/getting-started Join Us http://publiclab.org/join New projects http://publiclab.org/wiki/new-projects Mailing lists http://publiclab.org/wiki/mailing-lists Posting a research note (I can't find this link?)

Blog http://publiclab.org/blog

Donate http://publiclab.org/donate

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Shannon Dosemagen <shannon@publiclab.org

wrote:

On, it, will send shortly

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.comwrote:

Yeah sounds good -- if you can make a quick list of URLs I'll add them in. I.e. not sure if we have a page for Issues/Engagement yet, or get involved (we maybe have several for that).

Absolutely, we should link to Spectral Workbench and MapKnitter and Infragram, great idea.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Shannon Dosemagen < shannon@publiclab.org> wrote:

Becki and I just did some quick brainstorming about this...

Could we keep "About" as a tab, but have it a drop down menu that clearly links to things such as "staff" "board" "How we're funded" "contact" etc. Things that people want to find quick, but that are buried?

I also really like some of the categories that, for instance, Sunlight Foundation uses: About Blog (free standing) Press and media Donate (we could make it not so prominent as the banner that drives you nuts) Issues/engagement (this could be where we discuss the projects that people are working on -- nuclear power plant mapping, a place for case studies) Tools/places like we currently have Participate/join community/get involved (a clear link to joining the PL community) Data analysis Tools: really clear links to our other tools-- MapKnitter, Archive, SpectralWorkbench and Infragram would be awesome. Its not clear to me how you access those via our site currently.

Anyways, thats an expanded response to this question, but trying to think about easier inroads for people as a person that loves dropdown menus on top bars on webpages :)

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jeffrey Warren jeff@unterbahn.comwrote:

There's not really space for an "Events" link in the top bar, and Shannon (CC'ed) and I haven't decided on how to fit a "Blog" item either. We've talked about making "About" a dropdown, with sub-items. It could have sub-items "Blog", "Events", and others... if we did that, what would the name of the menu be? It could still be "About" but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Top level link to "Events" http://publiclab.org/events

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/jywarren/plots2/issues/172#issuecomment-26007509 .

Shannon Dosemagen Public Laboratory for Open Technology and Science 504.239.4642 publiclab.org @PublicLab

Shannon Dosemagen Public Laboratory for Open Technology and Science 504.239.4642 publiclab.org @PublicLab

Shannon Dosemagen Public Laboratory for Open Technology and Science 504.239.4642 publiclab.org @PublicLab

[jywarren]

Sorry, forgot to respond to Bryan's comment too -- we could do that but probably not with lists as large as Shannon and Becki are proposing -- unless the horizontal drop menus were multi-line.

It could also drop a whole region with multiple columns, like in the footer, which would give us LOTS of space, but maybe there'd be too many links then, and clarity is what we're trying to achieve here. But if well organized, it could work.

[sdosemagen]

Ok this is all me:

Becki and I just did some quick brainstorming about this...

Could we keep "About" as a tab, but have it a drop down menu that clearly links to things such as "staff" "board" "How we're funded" "contact" etc. Things that people want to find quick, but that are buried?

I also really like some of the categories that, for instance, Sunlight Foundation uses: About Blog (free standing) Press and media Donate (we could make it not so prominent as the banner that drives you nuts) Issues/engagement (this could be where we discuss the projects that people are working on -- nuclear power plant mapping, a place for case studies) Tools/places like we currently have Participate/join community/get involved (a clear link to joining the PL community) Data analysis Tools: really clear links to our other tools-- MapKnitter, Archive, SpectralWorkbench and Infragram would be awesome. Its not clear to me how you access those via our site currently.

Anyways, thats an expanded response to this question, but trying to think about easier inroads for people as a person that loves dropdown menus on top bars on webpages :)

---

About: Our work http://publiclab.org/about Staff http://publiclab.org/wiki/plots-staff Organizers http://publiclab.org/wiki/organizers Board http://publiclab.org/board Partners (need to create) Funding http://publiclab.org/wiki/how-public-lab-funded Press and Media http://publiclab.org/wiki/media Contact (need to create-- a page clarifying who to contact when)

Issues: (Place holder-- want to think a bit more about content here as we think through presenting case studies)

Tools/Places: Already in bar

Data Tools: (not sure if this is the best name for this tab?) MapKnitter.org Map Archive http://publiclab.org/archive SpectralWorkbench.org Infragra.org

Participate: Welcome! http://publiclab.org/getting-started Join Us http://publiclab.org/join New projects http://publiclab.org/wiki/new-projects Mailing lists http://publiclab.org/wiki/mailing-lists Posting a research note (I can't find this link?)

Blog http://publiclab.org/blog

Donate http://publiclab.org/donate

[sdosemagen]

Jeff-- with all the black space at the top, why can't we add more main headers? I'm assuming it has something to do with the back end, but if you could clarify that would be great.

Can I think about reorganizing over the weekend a bit and then get back to you?

[btbonval]

Yeah I was proposing multi line dropdown. One row dropdown might add three extra items.

Have you spoken to Nick about it? This is his thang.

Also I was curious why Jeff was agreeing then disagreeing with himself, but I saw in replies that shannon was being quoted. I figured it out, but it is still awkward for 3rd party reading ;) On Oct 11, 2013 2:24 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

Sorry, forgot to respond to Bryan's comment too -- we could do that but probably not with lists as large as Shannon and Becki are proposing -- unless the horizontal drop menus were multi-line.

It could also drop a whole region with multiple columns, like in the footer, which would give us LOTS of space, but maybe there'd be too many links then, and clarity is what we're trying to achieve here. But if well organized, it could work.

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[jywarren]

No, it's just a space issue - on many screens, there just isn't space for more than a few items, so if we add more, we have to be OK with them becoming invisible on small screens. See these screenshots. That's why having fewer top-level items is good -- then we won't have things inexplicably invisible on small screens. Bryan's suggestion of a whole drop-down zone with lots of items is also good, since we could put almost everything under a single top-level tab. But that's already what happens on a phone display (as below); we just need to be sure the mid-sized screens work too.

The most important thing is to be sure that as screen real-estate gets smaller, our most important links are not bumped off. I suggest "Web tools", "Participate", and maybe "Blog" being bumped off as the screen gets smaller? But tell me what you think it most important.

[jywarren]

Can I go ahead and add the whole "About" menu, since that makes sense as-is and we don't have to get rid of anything? And the "Web Tools" instead of "Maps"? I can also consolidate "Research" and "Tools and Places" into one, freeing up space for the "Blog" if we're ready for that?

[sdosemagen]

Yeah-- About, Web Tools and consolidation of Research/Tools/Places and addition of Blog would be a good start. Can we consider how we might add in the others down the line? Donate could probably stay where it is, but "issues" and "participate" are good categorical sections-- maybe can be resolved by Bryan's suggestion. For now "issues" isn't an issue as content still is being worked on.

[jywarren]

If we are OK with some of them being bumped off for small screens, we can add a couple more top-levels, but if we really want them to show under all circumstances, we should try to tuck them into existing top-level items.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Shannon Dosemagen <notifications@github.com

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Yeah-- About, Web Tools and consolidation of Research/Tools/Places and addition of Blog would be a good start. Can we consider how we might add in the others down the line? Donate could probably stay where it is, but "issues" and "participate" are good categorical sections-- maybe can be resolved by Bryan's suggestion. For now "issues" isn't an issue as content still is being worked on.

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[sdosemagen]

My feeling is that "issues" and "participate" are different and important enough categories that they shouldn't be compressed. That said, if we need to compress one, we could put "participate" under "About".

[jywarren]

OK, I left out Contact and Partners from the About menu since they aren't ready, but have a couple suggestions -- first, maybe we should make a page specifically for journalists -- which could list things like "Please attribute Public Lab works as collaborations, not as the work of an individual" and such, but also link to the hi-res photos for different projects (we already have a wiki page for each of our biggest projects with hi-res imagery). Could that be the "Media" page, and we move the content that was there to "Press"? or vice versa... not sure. Or is it OK just to have a section for journalists on the Media page, like "Writing about Public Lab" or "Journalists" or something?

Second - I was able to make "sections" on the "Research" menu, like "Tools" and "Places", which is nice. Any interest in separating the About menu similarly, maybe into "Community" and "Non-profit"? Just an idea to organize it a bit more.

[jywarren]

Re: "issues" and "participate" - i agree, they don't really fit under About, so we could make a more general tab that they could fit under alongside About content. It could have sub-sections, maybe. I feel like they are important enough that we don't want them to disappear on smaller screens, though, and putting them under a shared tab is preferable?

[sdosemagen]

We should have a section "for journalists" on the media page, not turn that into the media page. Many times, people are looking for what has been written about PL, not just wanting to write about us.

Sounds great for the Research menu-- I think for the About menu, that will complicate-- its not an easy structure to understand, we should instead explain it better on the "our work" page.

What do you suggest for the title of the shared tab that would house issues and participate. Maybe something that would house research, tools, places, issues and participate would work?

[jywarren]

Here, i did a test of how many items could fit; I think we could do three 4-letter new items; or maybe 2 longer ones, without running out of space. So "Participate" could work along with "Issues", without causing trouble, i think. I want to test on other screens because we originally reduced the top bar items due to lack of space.

Maybe "Web Tools" should be "Data"?

[sdosemagen]

Can "research" go next to "about" and "web tools" rather than being separated by the search area?

[jywarren]

Oops, didn't post the test:

Darn, this whole time I was thinking these would break the top bar layout, but they dont, how stupid of me!

Wait, i think it's because we used to be putting these items before the search bar, so that they dont get collapsed on small screens. That would indeed cause trouble, but it looks like we are totally in the clear now that we're listing them after.

One last question (i think) - right now, "Research" to the left of the search zone is the only item which remains uncollapsed on small screens. Is that the right one? I imagine most mobile users are regular users, but don't really know.

[sdosemagen]

Made a "contact" page to be added to the "About" tab: http://publiclab.org/wiki/contact

[jywarren]

So "Research" being to the left is why it doesn't get collapsed on small screens. I think I can try to make it appear to the right but still not get collapsed; i'll try.

[sdosemagen]

I don't quite understand your "darn" statement, but its looking good. Asking to move the research to the other side after talking to a couple people around here and seeing if they would miss it on the left of the search bar.

[sdosemagen]

Web tools could be shortened to something, data might be good, but a bit vague. We should ask the organizers :)

What happened to the archive? If we change the web tools tab to "data" it would easily live under there.

[jywarren]

"Darn" explanation: the top bar used to break if we put more than 2-3 items in it -- it'd wrap around and become radically ugly. But this rejiggering of order and "collapsability" has fixed that issue -- easy in retrospect.

Let's do "data" for now, get feedback. We can always revise more but this has been stuck in discussion for like a year now, it feels great to just be doing it.

[jywarren]

ugh, no, i can't move Research to the other side and get it to work. Let's stick with it as it is for now. Maybe we can put the search bar on the far right or something... let's focus on the content changes for now and do more layout tweaking later.

[sdosemagen]

Yes!!!!

And yes to data.

[sdosemagen]

Also gives a much clearer sense of content that is needed to help make things more self evident, glad we did a quick bang out of this!

[btbonval]

is there any easy way to drop into the wiki index or research note index?

That seemed missing before (although /wiki worked).

Amber mentioned wanting such indices, not just top 10 lists. On Oct 11, 2013 3:55 PM, "Shannon Dosemagen" notifications@github.com wrote:

Also gives a much clearer sense of content that is needed to help make things more self evident, glad we did a quick bang out of this!

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[jywarren]

Yes, it was under the Tools/Places menu which didn't make a lot of sense; now it's at the top under "Research".

[jywarren]

deployed BTW, check it out: publiclab.org

[btbonval]

Cool, checked it from my phone. drop downs look good,but why is research separate and different? it feels inconsistent? On Oct 11, 2013 4:09 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

deployed BTW, check it out: publiclab.org

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[jywarren]

Almost forgot /wiki/start-a-chapter... adding now.

[jywarren]

It does not have the "nav-collapse collapse" classes, and does not disappear on small screens. My attempts to make it appear on the right and still not collapse have so far failed... my Bootstrap-foo is a bit rusty maybe? We can keep trying.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Bryan Bonvallet notifications@github.comwrote:

Cool, checked it from my phone. drop downs look good,but why is research separate and different? it feels inconsistent? On Oct 11, 2013 4:09 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

deployed BTW, check it out: publiclab.org

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[jywarren]

I think we can add the "Donate" page too... do we want to move it from a banner into being a top menu item instead?

[btbonval]

mostly it is ugly that clicking research adds a white popup yet the rest of the menu expands in the black menu space. very disconnected in look&feel.

no big wup, thought maybe it was intentional. On Oct 11, 2013 4:21 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

It does not have the "nav-collapse collapse" classes, and does not disappear on small screens. My attempts to make it appear on the right and still not collapse have so far failed... my Bootstrap-foo is a bit rusty maybe? We can keep trying.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Bryan Bonvallet notifications@github.comwrote:

Cool, checked it from my phone. drop downs look good,but why is research separate and different? it feels inconsistent? On Oct 11, 2013 4:09 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

deployed BTW, check it out: publiclab.org

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[jywarren]

we could just make Research collapse too, but the what do we spend all the top bar space on in mobile view?

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bryan Bonvallet notifications@github.comwrote:

mostly it is ugly that clicking research adds a white popup yet the rest of the menu expands in the black menu space. very disconnected in look&feel.

no big wup, thought maybe it was intentional. On Oct 11, 2013 4:21 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

It does not have the "nav-collapse collapse" classes, and does not disappear on small screens. My attempts to make it appear on the right and still not collapse have so far failed... my Bootstrap-foo is a bit rusty maybe? We can keep trying.

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Cool, checked it from my phone. drop downs look good,but why is research separate and different? it feels inconsistent? On Oct 11, 2013 4:09 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

deployed BTW, check it out: publiclab.org

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[sdosemagen]

Yes move Donate to be a bar

[sdosemagen]

Looking really good, instead of "contact the staff", just "contact"?

If there is anyway in the future to move research next to the other options, that would be great, but understand the difficulty.

Next can we work on how the blog looks :)

[btbonval]

its the drop down button, not wasted space. even if you take research off of there, there is the three lines that activate the menu drop action On Oct 11, 2013 4:30 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

we could just make Research collapse too, but the what do we spend all the top bar space on in mobile view?

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bryan Bonvallet notifications@github.comwrote:

mostly it is ugly that clicking research adds a white popup yet the rest of the menu expands in the black menu space. very disconnected in look&feel.

no big wup, thought maybe it was intentional. On Oct 11, 2013 4:21 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

It does not have the "nav-collapse collapse" classes, and does not disappear on small screens. My attempts to make it appear on the right and still not collapse have so far failed... my Bootstrap-foo is a bit rusty maybe? We can keep trying.

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Cool, checked it from my phone. drop downs look good,but why is research separate and different? it feels inconsistent? On Oct 11, 2013 4:09 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com

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[jywarren]

Also we almost forgot events... Liz's orig request.

Yeah bryan but the three bars may not be legible to everyone, and we have all that extra black space to spend on at least one high priority menu, so I think we ought to. But Leta experiment a bit to see what we can do. On Oct 11, 2013 4:35 PM, "Bryan Bonvallet" notifications@github.com wrote:

its the drop down button, not wasted space. even if you take research off of there, there is the three lines that activate the menu drop action On Oct 11, 2013 4:30 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

we could just make Research collapse too, but the what do we spend all the top bar space on in mobile view?

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bryan Bonvallet notifications@github.comwrote:

mostly it is ugly that clicking research adds a white popup yet the rest of the menu expands in the black menu space. very disconnected in look&feel.

no big wup, thought maybe it was intentional. On Oct 11, 2013 4:21 PM, "Jeffrey Warren" notifications@github.com wrote:

It does not have the "nav-collapse collapse" classes, and does not disappear on small screens. My attempts to make it appear on the right and still not collapse have so far failed... my Bootstrap-foo is a bit rusty maybe? We can keep trying.

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[ebarry]

Looking great! Can you add Events to the new Participate Tab. Here are some options for the text:

"Attend an event" or "Attend an event near you" or "Events near you" or "Find an Event"

[jywarren]

We don't have a "near you" events calendar yet... but once people are able to mark their location, we could do that, or if they subscribe to a place-related tag, maybe.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Looking great! Can you add Events to the new Participate Tab. Here are some options for the text:

"Attend an event" or "Attend an event near you" or "Events near you" or "Find an Event"

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[ebarry]

ok so then maybe just "Events" or "Community events"

@lizbarry http://twitter.com/lizbarry

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Jeffrey Warren notifications@github.comwrote:

We don't have a "near you" events calendar yet... but once people are able to mark their location, we could do that, or if they subscribe to a place-related tag, maybe.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Liz Barry notifications@github.comwrote:

Looking great! Can you add Events to the new Participate Tab. Here are some options for the text:

"Attend an event" or "Attend an event near you" or "Events near you" or "Find an Event"

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[ebarry]

Under Participate dropdown menu, include a link to "Subscribe", leading to http://publiclab.org/wiki/forum

[sdosemagen]

Liz-- I think that the GMF page might be too micro of a category for a drop down as the main categories are about the different ways to get involved. If we were going to include a link to the forums, maybe it would be better to include a general link to the store.