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Comparing TCEC legacy vs new GUI #1

Open kanchess opened 6 years ago

kanchess commented 6 years ago

Please compare the TCEC legacy GUI at http://legacy-tcec.chessdom.com/live.php with the newly developed GUI at http://tcec.chessdom.com/

TCEC wants to know what is still missing in the new GUI which was there in the older legacy GUI created by Martin Thoresen years ago -> what is missing in the new GUI for it to be complete as compared to the legacy GUI?

This thread is for info gathering only; for feature requests to the new GUI go to https://github.com/scs-ben/tcec-gui/issues thank you for participating!

Cordially, Kan

LC0fan commented 6 years ago

Not sure if we had this in the old GUI but Twitch chat messages disappear upon refreshing page or switching day/night mode etc. It would be nice if messages were not lost. New GUI looks promising though :)

kanchess commented 6 years ago

thank you for reporting but that is a twitch issue i am afraid, and i recall it being the same in old GUI too

Rocky640 commented 6 years ago

On the old GUI, there was a button to see the engine settings at the right of the engine logo. I don't see such an option in the new gui.

z1bnc commented 6 years ago

It's there Rocky. Hover your mouse over the king symbol which is next to the engine name.

Rocky640 commented 6 years ago

Thanks. OK, it works ! But not obvious.

kenpchess commented 6 years ago

Keyboard arrow keys for forward/back move buttons. Old GUI has this. I posted a github issue on this topic about two weeks ago but it has not been touched. Thanks.

kanchess commented 6 years ago

Keyboard arrow keys for forward/back move buttons. Old GUI has this. I posted a github issue on this topic about two weeks ago but it has not been touched. Thanks.

NOTED - good point ty

Ipmanchess commented 6 years ago

I would like to see that we can resize the chessboard.. And the coordinates should be outside the board I know for mobile it has to be compact..then is default like now good.

rackbrain commented 6 years ago

The new GUI crosstable is incomprehensible and the green colour almost invisible. What is the point of the colours? An explanatory note is needed at the top or bottom of the table. I don't like the "1/2" for a draw - the conventional "=" sign is much better for immediate recognition by the eye.

rackbrain commented 6 years ago

Schedule list was far better in the legacy GUI. It was much easier to scroll down and see the future games.

rackbrain commented 6 years ago

The old GUI showed the diagram for the end point of an engine's PV, which I found to be useful. This is missing in the new GUI.

kanchess commented 6 years ago

I would like to see that we can resize the chessboard.. And the coordinates should be outside the board I know for mobile it has to be compact..then is default like now good.

actually this belongs more in the requests for features at https://github.com/scs-ben/tcec-gui/issues but 1 thing maybe appropriate here and i check that as

NOTED - option to see or hide board coordinates (was in old GUI)

kanchess commented 6 years ago

The new GUI crosstable is incomprehensible and the green colour almost invisible. What is the point of the colours? An explanatory note is needed at the top or bottom of the table. I don't like the "1/2" for a draw - the conventional "=" sign is much better for immediate recognition by the eye.

thanks for your reaction but i can read nothing that answers the question and purpose of this thread. if you have specific requested features you can go to the link above

kanchess commented 6 years ago

Schedule list was far better in the legacy GUI. It was much easier to scroll down and see the future games.

thanks for your reaction but i can read nothing that answers the question and purpose of this thread, most especially since the feature exists on both. if you have specific requested features you can go to the link above

kanchess commented 6 years ago

The old GUI showed the diagram for the end point of an engine's PV, which I found to be useful. This is missing in the new GUI.

PV board is not missing in new GUI:

  1. on old GUI the pv board followed your settings, and for most viewers that was not end of pv
  2. there is a pv board in the new gui as well, with the possibility to show exactly what you want to see
nickolasreynolds commented 6 years ago

In the old GUI, going forwards or backwards through a game would highlight the corresponding node on the graphs.

coolchess123 commented 6 years ago
  1. Crosstable has been updated to make it more viewable
  2. PV board can be used as analysis (few bugs still there)
  3. New option added for chat i.e. you can have dark twitch on white theme
  4. Few other fixes went in

All this is available in beta (http://tcecbeta.club) will move it to main later

kanchess commented 6 years ago

In the old GUI, going forwards or backwards through a game would highlight the corresponding node on the graphs.

thank you, indeed absent in new GUI and minor but very handy as well.

NOTED - show move in graph when moving through game (was in old GUI)

kanchess commented 6 years ago
  1. Crosstable has been updated to make it more viewable
  2. PV board can be used as analysis (few bugs still there)
  3. New option added for chat i.e. you can have dark twitch on white theme
  4. Few other fixes went in

All this is available in beta (http://tcecbeta.club) will move it to main later

thank you very much for keeping this thread informed as well arun! please note the NOTED elements in this thread, as they concern the core of the question here.

coolchess123 commented 6 years ago
  1. Keyboard navigation for game moves are added All available fixes are present in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.html also now
kanchess commented 6 years ago
  1. Crosstable has been updated to make it more viewable
  2. PV board can be used as analysis (few bugs still there)
  3. New option added for chat i.e. you can have dark twitch on white theme
  4. Few other fixes went in

All this is available in beta (http://tcecbeta.club) will move it to main later

excellent arun, thank you very much!

kanchess commented 6 years ago
  1. Keyboard navigation for game moves are added All available fixes are present in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.html also now

thank you arun, that issue is also solved then!

kanchess commented 6 years ago

In the old GUI, going forwards or backwards through a game would highlight the corresponding node on the graphs.

ty for reporting; this issue has been solved for various browsers today

EDIT: correction: this issue is NOTED (not yet solved afaik)

coolchess123 commented 6 years ago

now the PV board can be used for analysis as well, pieces can be moved. Touch support still not provided as chessboard js needs to provide touch support, but mouse drag drop works well

kanchess commented 6 years ago

now the PV board can be used for analysis as well, pieces can be moved. Touch support still not provided as chessboard js needs to provide touch support, but mouse drag drop works well

super feature!!! methinks this whole thread can be closed now? ;-)

coolchess123 commented 6 years ago

highlighting graphs is not yet working i.e. points on graph as we move

tcecspectator commented 6 years ago

In the adjudication rules for draw it reads: "If there is a pawn advance, or a capture by any kind," Should be "If there is a pawn advance, or a capture of any kind," This is present on legacy and new GUIs.

Rocky640 commented 6 years ago

In the rules, still some references to Season 11

kanchess commented 6 years ago

In the adjudication rules for draw it reads: "If there is a pawn advance, or a capture by any kind," Should be "If there is a pawn advance, or a capture of any kind," This is present on legacy and new GUIs.

thank you for noticing this, i think it had best be reported at https://github.com/scs-ben/tcec-gui/issues since it is a more generic issue

kanchess commented 6 years ago

In the rules, still some references to Season 11

thank you for noticing this, i think it had best be reported at https://github.com/scs-ben/tcec-gui/issues since it is a more generic issue

kanchess commented 6 years ago

highlighting graphs is not yet working i.e. points on graph as we move

thank you for reporting arun, we patiently await this last (?) comparison fix. the two issues above this remark also deserve you attention, although i think they should be reported directly to the tcec gui repo

coolchess123 commented 6 years ago

rules have been fixed in new gui

guyhaw commented 6 years ago

I don't see the engines' ELOs in the new GUI. Also, before, I think there was a cursor on the graphs corresponding to the position chosen on the main board. The rules for previous TCECs do not appear to be being preserved (and some words are incorrectly carried forward). In some cases, 'or' should more exactly be 'and/or'.

kanchess commented 6 years ago

I don't see the engines' ELOs in the new GUI. Also, before, I think there was a cursor on the graphs corresponding to the position chosen on the main board. The rules for previous TCECs do not appear to be being preserved (and some words are incorrectly carried forward). In some cases, 'or' should more exactly be 'and/or'.

thank you for mentioning it, this has also been fixed now.

kanchess commented 6 years ago

i think this thread can be closed soon...