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Open bertrandgorge opened 9 years ago

bertrandgorge commented 9 years ago

Hello,

I've found here that you are working on an Okofen data grapher (and saw from LinkedIn that you are actually working at Okofen, which is nice !)

I've been trying to get something out of my boiler for some time, and have started a little project as well here: https://github.com/bertrandgorge/Okofen-Log-Viewer

I've tried to pull your project and make it work, but it's a bit unstable still unless I've done something wrong...

There's a lot of cool things that could be done to make good use of these data, maybe we could join forces ?

I'd be glad to discuss it with you !

Regards,

Bertrand Gorge

karelvw commented 9 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for you enthusiasm!

My log.ÖkoFEN is not ready yet and I used it to test Silex and PHPlot. So it is a testing project I coded very quick and dirty. For the moment in works only with the external IP addresses and not with local IP. ( I use the ÖkoFEN service to get the IP of the installation via the username and password) The idea is the following: when a customer has troubles with optimising his heating I can start a logging (via cron-job) to monitor his installation and save the csv-files. The program analyses the data and found where to optimize the installation.

So a lot to code, but not a lot of time to work on it.

The highcharts looks promising. I will try them to use in the project.

If you got some ideas, feel free to share!

Kind regards,

Karel.

On 25 May 2015, at 11:26, Bertrand Gorge notifications@github.com wrote:

Hello,

I've found here that you are working on an Okofen data grapher (and saw from LinkedIn that you are actually working at Okofen, which is nice !)

I've been trying to get something out of my boiler for some time, and have started a little project as well here: https://github.com/bertrandgorge/Okofen-Log-Viewer https://github.com/bertrandgorge/Okofen-Log-Viewer I've tried to pull your project and make it work, but it's a bit unstable still unless I've done something wrong...

There's a lot of cool things that could be done to make good use of these data, maybe we could join forces ?

I'd be glad to discuss it with you !

Regards,

Bertrand Gorge

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/karelvw/log.okofen/issues/1.

bertrandgorge commented 9 years ago

Hello Karel,

I think your project can add a lot of value to your clients: Okofen is a great brand, and if you can create some good customer service on top of good products, then you really get something :-)

There's definitely something to do: when a heater is set up, it is usually programmed with a number of default settings. If you are lucky, you can spend an hour or two with the expert to try to understand the whole thing, but it requires so much knowledge + capability to program + stable weather/temperatures to tune properly the whole thing, that in most case I believe people stay with the initial settings. For example, our house is equiped with some strange heat exchanger https://www.google.fr/search?q=radiateur+monotube+%C3%A0+ailettes that have nearly no inertia and need a high temp to be efficient (it has its goods and bads) - the settings of the heater should not be the default ones...!

On my side, the first reason I started the project was because we've ran out of pellets a few times (we have a small silo of only 3,5 T, so we need to fill it 2 to 3 times a year) - because of the cone + the silo effect, it is actually quite hard to predict how many days left you have... By counting the number of minutes where the worm drive is on, I managed to get a accurate view of the consumption of the heater, which is already a good thing... (I got the idea from that guy, who is less lucky because he doesn't have the whole pelletronic server, so he had to hack a clever trick to get the number of worm drive rotations: http://granuleconso.free.fr/?/02-La-consommation/Le-compteur)

The second reason I started the project was to graph the different curves in order to help my okofen instaler to tune the system at the next inspection - I lack the technical expertise to tell which curves I should show for what reason.

One of the things I wanted to optimize is when to heat the DHW vs the HC - I tried to avoid having the DHW taking priority over the HC during the evening because we can quickly feel the heat going down the heaters at the moment....

One great thing you could do, since you may have contacts within Okofen, is to build a community - there's a ton of people that are just as enthusiastic as I am, ready to code, help, optimize, show their installation to others. You find them all over the http://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Monitoring_the_temparature_values_of_a__kofen_Pellematic_using_munin.html web https://github.com/ohitz/oekofen-stats... If we could help each other with a well laid forum, with access to some API and documentation (I found the URL of the last four CSV from your code, I don't know where it's documented elsewhere). The release notes of the Okofen firmware would be nice too (just to know if it's worth installing). It's nearly impossible to make use of the Android App too, it's a shame. You could also help people manage the cost efficiency of their energy choice vs fuel/gaz (and if you can enter the quantity of pellet you buy, when and at what price, you can even get a market place for pellets delivery)

I believe you can get some pretty neat thing going just by helping people do it for you..:-)

Anyway good luck with your github project, I registered to the updates so I let you know if it starts working for me !

On 26 May 2015 at 08:34, Karel Van Wonterghem notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for you enthusiasm!

My log.ÖkoFEN is not ready yet and I used it to test Silex and PHPlot. So it is a testing project I coded very quick and dirty. For the moment in works only with the external IP addresses and not with local IP. ( I use the ÖkoFEN service to get the IP of the installation via the username and password) The idea is the following: when a customer has troubles with optimising his heating I can start a logging (via cron-job) to monitor his installation and save the csv-files. The program analyses the data and found where to optimize the installation.

So a lot to code, but not a lot of time to work on it.

The highcharts looks promising. I will try them to use in the project.

If you got some ideas, feel free to share!

Kind regards,

Karel.

On 25 May 2015, at 11:26, Bertrand Gorge notifications@github.com wrote:

Hello,

I've found here that you are working on an Okofen data grapher (and saw from LinkedIn that you are actually working at Okofen, which is nice !)

I've been trying to get something out of my boiler for some time, and have started a little project as well here: https://github.com/bertrandgorge/Okofen-Log-Viewer < https://github.com/bertrandgorge/Okofen-Log-Viewer> I've tried to pull your project and make it work, but it's a bit unstable still unless I've done something wrong...

There's a lot of cool things that could be done to make good use of these data, maybe we could join forces ?

I'd be glad to discuss it with you !

Regards,

Bertrand Gorge

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub < https://github.com/karelvw/log.okofen/issues/1>.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/karelvw/log.okofen/issues/1#issuecomment-105415537.