kartozia / spatial_analysis_of_NakhDaghestanian_languages

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Full list of sources; References to Andi dialects; Overall goal of the project #1

Open sverhees opened 6 years ago

sverhees commented 6 years ago

As I understand it, the idea of this project/dataframe is to connect coordinates of villages and information on the language/dialect spoken there with descriptive grammars, presumably for easy reference. The page numbers following the source reference indicate the page where a particular dialect is mentioned. If the data is meant to be useful to other users as well, it would be good to have a list of sources showing their full bibliographical information.

Furthermore, it is my understanding that this dataframe should allow one to find information on a particular dialect more easily. As I have worked mostly with Andi and know the available sources quite well, I started by looking at the references for Andi and how they are connected to the data, and it seems the criterion for including a source for a particular dialect is merely the mentioning that a dialect exists. Once. For example, for the Gagatli dialect, a reference to Sulejmanov's dissertation is given, even though Sulejmanov describes only the Rikvani dialect and does not give any information on the Gagatli dialect besides the fact that it exists. For some reason, the full descriptive grammar of the Gagatli dialect by Xangerei Salimov is not mentioned at all. The same Sulejmanov is referenced for the Kvankhidatli dialect, even though he does not provide any information on this dialect whatsoever, while Cercvadze's monograph on the Andi dialect actually takes into account other dialects such as Kvankhidatli, and provides some (albeit scarce) information on it.

I think it would be good to keep in mind what the goal is of the output dataframe; do you want to merely catalogue any reference to a particular dialect, or catalogue which sources provide information on which dialect(s)? Because I was under the impression that it was the latter, but based on the information in the dataframe, the approach seems to be the former. (@agricolamz: have you discussed these questions?)

agricolamz commented 6 years ago

Thank you, @sverhees. It is not our goal to collect all references about different lects in a one dataset. The idea was to find out which villages from the dataset are mentioned in a literature, so. e. g. that this village is affiliated with this lect in this source. From the bottom up.

However, I'm totally agree about the reference part. It is nice to have this in two formats (both could be genereated by Google Scholar but should be manually corrected):

So, @kartozia, will you add references one day, aren't you?