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6×4+4keys column-staggered split keyboard.
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Right half not working (Lily58 Pro) #10

Closed ikakus closed 4 years ago

ikakus commented 4 years ago

Hi! I have a problem. I flashed the pro micro's with the default rev1 keymap. make lily58/rev1:default:avrdude.

If I test both side separately (via USB), they send keycodes. The right half has the layout from the left half.

If I connect the left half via USB and connect both sides with the trrs cable (4pole), left works, but right sends no keycode. Any idea what the problem could be? I have hot swap sockets for pro-micros. I've tried 3 different pro-micro combinations still the problem remains.

My guess is, maybe I've damaged this conduction "road". Can you please advise if I can connect the damaged circuit with a wire directly from pro micro pin to TRRS jack? If yes, which one should I connect?

damage_2

Originally posted by @ikakus in https://github.com/kata0510/Lily58/issues/8#issuecomment-569059133

kata0510 commented 4 years ago

Hi Using blue ProMicro? Blue ProMicro recommends using black ProMicro due to left / right communication issues.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

Yes, blue ones. Oh wow, I thought they are all the same! Thanks, I will try with black ones! blue micro

ikakus commented 4 years ago

I think I've found the problem that you mentioned, but it is about green ones. green micro vs blue. Altho the only black micros that I've found are Elite-C, were you referring to them?

BenRoe commented 4 years ago

I have the same problem with a Lily58 keyboard from a customer. Tomorrow i replace the pro micro with different pro micro's and elite-c and post the result here.

There is another fix. A different slave detection method (PR).

“A few of us collaborators of the QMK Firmware reviewed and tested the new option, signed off on it, and then it got merged in. So to use the new detection method (which does not rely on the Schottky diode), in config.h of your keymap, add the…” — @keebio https://link.medium.com/kmZ3dambK2

Scroll down to the What do we do now? headline.

Would be great if the Lily58 uses the new split_common framework.

kata0510 commented 4 years ago

The problem that blue ProMicro cannot communicate left and right has been reported in Japan. https://twitter.com/yohewi/status/1204048124244717568

I can't verify because I don't have Elite-C. sorry.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

@BenRoe, I'm using regular pro micros (with micro-usb port), do you think this is still related?

BenRoe commented 4 years ago

Did some test with different pro micro's. Left version of the Pro Micro on the picture works, if on both sides. Also the Elite-C works. Will compare both under a magnifier to find difference. First obvious difference is the micro usb port. IMG_6881

Curry commented 4 years ago

YMMV, But for me I switched to a from a 4 pole TRRS cable to a 3 pole TRS Cable, and for whatever reason it actually work. If you want to try the lily58 with split common code, check out my personal fork of qmk, it has both the CRKBD and Lily58 working with split common. You might need to add SPLIT_TRANSPORT = yes in your keymaps rules.mk for it to work properly, or you can try my keymap (make lily58:curry:flash), however it is meant for the elite-c.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

@CurryFurious I've tried with 3 pole TRS, still same issue. I'm still waiting for black ProMicro's to arrive, will post an update once I'll try them.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

So, I've finally got to try black pro-micros on both sides, and it has the same issue. Can you please tell me what pins are used for two sides connection I'll try to solder them directly.

blue_and_black_pro_micro

aWalrus commented 4 years ago

I had a similar issue! Are you, by any chance, using RGB LED backlight? 6 LEDs per half in my build (with full brighness) was too much and lead to brownouts - with one half not working. As soon as I disabled them, the issue was gone.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

@aWalrus Hi! No, I have only both types of sockets, reset switch, trrs and pro-micros soldered.

ikakus commented 4 years ago

@kata0510 can I use this connection? I want to solder them directly to exclude pcb problem? connection

ikakus commented 4 years ago

So I was able to fix the issue. It appeared physical damage as I suggested before. As SOFT_SERIAL_PIN set to PD2 in file serial_config.h. I've just connected them directly with a wire. fix_1 and it solved the problem.

Then I just soldered PD2 pin to TRRS on the damaged board. lily_fix_2

No problems so far :)

BiotechPedro commented 3 years ago

YMMV, But for me I switched to a from a 4 pole TRRS cable to a 3 pole TRS Cable, and for whatever reason it actually work. If you want to try the lily58 with split common code, check out my personal fork of qmk, it has both the CRKBD and Lily58 working with split common. You might need to add SPLIT_TRANSPORT = yes in your keymaps rules.mk for it to work properly, or you can try my keymap (make lily58:curry:flash), however it is meant for the elite-c.

@Curry I've tried with your keymap but still I suffer the same problem... using 2 elite-c and trying to flash a lily58 default keymap, the right part doesn't do anything. Sometimes the left hand functions perfectly and others only "z", "x", "b", "v" "[" and " " works. Can you help me please?

hzx commented 1 year ago

According to https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/feature_split_keyboard.md in keymap/config.h you need to define:

define SPLIT_USB_DETECT

also choose hand for each promicro: controller have left hand buttons

define MASTER_LEFT

controller have right hand buttons

define MASTER_RIGHT

NotNite commented 1 year ago

Running into this too - I tried with SPLIT_USB_DETECT but nothing.