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Custom modes not being reset when you exit that mode #335

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Set CFn3 to 0 (i.e. turn BBF off)
2. Set Auto ISO on and Evaluative metering
3. Save as Custom mode and assign to Basic landscape mode
4. Go into new basic landscape mode and take a picture
5. Go back into AV mode

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
Should turn off AUTO ISO and turn on Spot metering
Should turn CFN3 back to 3

What version of the product are you using?
R1815 nightly build

Please provide any additional information below.
Seems like some custom mode settings are being retained when you
change to Creative mode

Original issue reported on code.google.com by aker...@gmail.com on 20 Apr 2013 at 7:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I think I do not see any issue here:

When you leave a custom mode 400plus reverts the camera to the state previous 
to entering the custom mode; how the camera was before you configured the 
custom mode is not relevant here. In other words, you should disable AutoISO 
after configuring the custom mode.

Or perhaps I did not understand what you meant...

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 21 Apr 2013 at 10:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I'm saying that it does not seem to revert to the previous state. In the 
example above, AUTO ISO ON and Evaluative metering did not revert to AUTO ISO 
OFF and Spot Metering when I switched back to AV mode.

My point is that some Customer Mode settings are not reverting to the previous 
state when you exit a Custom MOde.

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 21 Apr 2013 at 2:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Also, in the original post I meant Cfn-4 not Cfn-3.

To answer your comment, if I am in AV with AUTO ISO disabled then I go into the 
CUSTOM Mode with ISO enabled, when I exit custom mode it should turn AUTO ISO 
off. It doesn't.

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 21 Apr 2013 at 2:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Ok, I will have a look at this as soon as possible; thanks.

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 21 Apr 2013 at 3:42

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I cannot reproduce this:

1 - Set camera to Av mode.
2 - Switch AutoISO on.
3 - Save as custom mode 0.
4 - Switch AutoISO to off.
5 - Move to Portrait mode.
6 - Assign custom mode 0.
7 - Custom mode 0 is loaded: camera is in Av mode, and AutoISO is on.
8 - Move back to Av mode, AutoISO is off again.
9 - As expected, I can move back and forth between Av and Portrait; AutoISO is 
on in Portrait mode, and off in Av mode.

I also tried to do step 4 after step 7 (i.e., switch AutoISO off after going 
back to Av from Portrait), and it still works correctly. Could you please tell 
me what configuration do you see in the "Config. Custom modes" submenu, inside 
the "Settings" menu? Many thanks.

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 25 Apr 2013 at 12:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
To answer you question, in the "config custom modes" menu I have set everything 
to YES except for Menu Order.

I've done further tests this morning with even more strange results. 

1 - I've created a "Landscape Remote" custom mode and made 3 changes from my 
normal AV setting.
           a) Turn Auto ISO on
           b) Turn metering from SPOT to Evaluative
           c) changed Custom Function 04 from 3 to 0
2 - I then assign this custom mode to the basic "Landscape" scene mode
3 - Go back into AV mode and re-set those three settings to what they should be 
in that mode. 

Results
Going into Landscape Scene mode always works right. The settings I set in 
Custom Modes are always there.

Switching from Landscape Scene mode back to AV is very weird. Doing it 3 or 4 
times I get different results. One time it didn't revert anything. Next time it 
reverted ISO but not the other 2.  The last time it reverted the Evaluative to 
Spot but nothing else. One time when it changed my AF points from single center 
point to using all focus points. One thing that is consistant it never switches 
the Cfn 4 back to 3 from 0.

I deleted all the files from the CF card except for the .bin and re-set 
everything from scratch. Still the same.    

Then after failing to revert (switching from Scene Landscape to AV) 20 times - 
IT WORKS RIGHT. !!!

The I turn the camera off and on again. And it starts failing again.

I'm not sure what all of this means. I've tried to keep my tests fairly basic 
but there seems to be no rhyme or reason to why it fails or doesn't fail.

Sometimes I think it might be the turning camera off and on that changes it. 
Sometimes I think it might be the speed that I move thru the other settings 
between Scene mode and AV.

If you can think of any other tests I'd be glad to try but I'm stymied.

Walt

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 25 Apr 2013 at 3:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Just one more question, please: when you move the wheel to the scene mode, the 
LCD should display the name of the custom mode, just below the creative mode; 
when you go back to the Av mode, does that line of text always disappear? or 
does it stay there sometimes?

Many thanks!

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 29 Apr 2013 at 9:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Let's make it two more questions, sorry: have you noticed whether moving the 
main dial faster makes it worse, or is the speed how you move it irrelevant? 
Thanks!

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 30 Apr 2013 at 6:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Question 1 - When I move back to AV mode, that line of text always goes away.

Question 2 - Moving slowly back thru the modes, it worked properly 4 times then 
failed on the 5th time.

Moving quickly fails the first time.

Question for you - should I move to the next build for testing - or stay with 
this one?

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 30 Apr 2013 at 2:00

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I think I may have the answer. Did you notice that in my steps it never says 
"Take a picture"?

For the testing I was doing, I would just switch into the "custom" scene mode 
then switch back. When you do that its hit and miss as to whether it actually 
switches all the settings back or not.

If you switch into the "custom" scene mode and actually take a picture then 
switch back to AV, it seems to work fine. I haven't done exhaustive testing but 
it worked right 10 out of ten times on preliminary testing.

Will take the camera out into the field today and test further.

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 30 Apr 2013 at 2:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Many thanks for your answers, this is being very helpful.

Nightly builds are made from the code in our "trunk", where we make changes 
that will go into the next major release; changes for the next minor release go 
into a "branch", and are not included into the nightly builds. In other words: 
no, do not bother with the nightly builds; I'll post a new beta here as soon as 
I have something to show.

Thanks!

Original comment by eduardo....@gmail.com on 30 Apr 2013 at 2:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Well, my "I think I may have the answer" was very wrong.

Just went out and tested 2 shots in AV - 2 shots in customer then switched back 
to AV

Did this 5 times (switching sometimes slowly and sometimes fast) between custom 
and AV.

All 5 times - when back in AV mode 
              - AUTO ISO disabled and set to 400 (should have been 100)
              - Metering set to Evaluative (should have been SPOT)
              - AF focus points set to ALL (should have been set to center)
              - Cfn.4 set to 0 (should have been set to 1)

The AF focus points changing surprises me. I never changed that in the Custom 
Mode setting. Why is it changing it when switching back to AV?

Cheers

Original comment by aker...@gmail.com on 1 May 2013 at 4:50