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Fixing this in release 1.9 (Friday May 3)
New equation reads:
EERadj = (Q_t,rated + Q_fan,rated) / (Q_t,rated/EER - Q_fan,rated/3.413)
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 2 May 2013 at 5:24
Recommend revising the equation and terms in this section to add the term "net"
correct the units of Q_t,rated. This will make the equation consistent with the
equations in the capacity section
Revised eqn:
EERadj = (Q_t,net,rated + Q_fan,rated) / (Q_t,net,rated/EER - Q_fan,rated/3.413)
also revise
where...
Q_t,net,rated The AHRI rated total net cooling capacity of the packaged
unit (Btu/h)
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 18 May 2013 at 7:11
Also, for the fan heat equation in Gross Total Cooling Capacity, I calculate
the multiplier to be 0.0415:
400cfm/ton * 12000Btu/hr/ton * 3.413 Btu/hr/W * 0.365 W/cfm
Am I missing something?
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 18 May 2013 at 7:59
John, any input on the last two comments? Is this something that you agree
should be added to the ACM?
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 24 Sep 2013 at 7:05
I believe that adding the "net" to the terms should be fine.
For the constant in the equation, I believe it is "0.040", not "0.0415". I will
have to locate where I did the algebra for this, or redo to confirm.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 15 Nov 2013 at 1:13
Closing issue - it appears that the recommended set of curves for different
SEER/EER combinations have been added to the Appendix.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 19 Dec 2013 at 6:58
John, this issue is still outstanding. See comment #2 and #3.
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 15 Feb 2014 at 7:40
David, I am making the change for comment #3. At some point I had come up with
0.040, but I'm not sure how.
For comment #2: I don't think your change is correct - I think it should be the
gross cooling capacity that is entered for the adjustment, not net, for
calculating the adjusted EER.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 21 Mar 2014 at 5:18
John, re: comment #2. If you have access to the 90.1-2007 User's Manual,
please review equations G-A thru C and example G-G for their guidance. If you
don't have a copy of this, I can send you excerpts. I think you'll find that
what I describe matches ASHRAE's guidance.
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 21 Mar 2014 at 5:29
Original comment by cnambiar@archenergy.com
on 20 May 2014 at 9:24
An important issue related to this existing issue came up in testing the user's
model in issue 601.
In that model, the user defined both the gross and net rated capacity for the
DX cooling coil. The problem is the difference between the two values was
about 3x the standard assumption of 0.365 W/cfm @ 400 cfm/ton. The ACM and
current rules are written such that if the user specifies gross and net
capacities, the difference is assumed to be the rated fan power, with no limit
and no checking for consistency with design fan power.
Increasing the rated fan power dramatically skews the proposed simulated EIR,
and therefore results in unwarranted cooling energy savings. I suggest we
revise the ACM and CBECC to not allow entry of gross capacity for DX and HP
coils. Instead, only allow input of Net capacity and let the tool calculate the
gross based on the ACM assumptions. Rated net capacity is readily avaialble in
the AHRI directory and in manufacturer's literature, gross is hard to come by,
especially for small units...
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 27 Jun 2014 at 6:52
I agree with David's comment #11 - we should allow entry of gross rated
capacity or net rated capacity, but not both. I will look back at ACM RM to see
what changes would be required.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 17 Jul 2014 at 8:55
To simplify things, I propose that the use only be allowed to enter the net
capacity. For DX coils, that is what the AHRI ratings indicate. For water
coils, the assumption will be that Gross = Net. Does this work?
David
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 17 Jul 2014 at 8:58
*** Yes, I think this is the preferred approach. ***
This will require some slight modifications to the ACM. I will do that today.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 31 Jul 2014 at 5:37
Changing status to FIXED. This should be ready to close as "Done Verified"
with no further action, since the change makes the ACM RM consistent with CBECC.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 12 Aug 2014 at 9:32
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 12 Aug 2014 at 10:58
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
da...@360-analytics.com
on 1 May 2013 at 8:33