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Roger, I believe your proposed resolution is mostly on the right track. Copying
Mike's response to this issue below-
1.Yes, I think it makes sense to subtract out the heated only storage area in
the calculation. This is discussed in the 2010 User's Manual.
I think the calculation of Non-Res or Res conditioned floor area should only
subtract out the area of spaces qualifying for a different system type from
Table G3.1.1A.
Predominant Condition Floor Area = Total Area – Area qualifying for
additional system type in Table G3.1.1A.
So;
NonResCondFlrAreaFosFuelHt = TotCondFlrArea – ResCondFlrArea (if greater than
20,000 sqft) - NonResCondFlrAreaElectHt (if greater than 20,000 sqft) –
HtOnlyStorage (any area)
2. If a mixed res/non res building does not have enough of area of each
(greater than 20,000 sqft) to qualify for additional system type per 3.1.1
exception A, all floors should be counted as the predominant type. If a mixed
res/non res building has enough area of each (greater than 20,000 sqft) to
qualify for both res and non res systems per 3.1.1 exception A, than a mixed
use floor should be counted in both. So a five story building with 2 floors
res, 2 non-res, and one mixed could have three floors res and 3 floors non-res.
3. Both above and below grade floors should be counted. This is actually
clarified in an addendum to 2013 that is out for public review right now.
4. A floor with any conditioned area should be counted as a floor.
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 18 Sep 2014 at 10:21
One clarification on the example for item 2) provided in Comment #1. If this
is a traditional mixed-use building with dwelling unit entries from an interior
corridor, wouldn't the 5 story building example be 5 stories non-res, 3 stories
res?
Original comment by da...@360-analytics.com
on 1 Oct 2014 at 9:23
David,
In example 2, if the mixed use floor has enough area of each residential and
non-residential space types then it would be counted in both.
in the example stated above, 2 floors are use type residential, 2
non-residential and one mixed use which has area >20,000 sq.ft for both, hence
is counted towards both, i.e. 3 floors residential and 3 floors non-residential.
The example I can think of where a building would be 5 stories, with 5 floors
non-res and 3 res- If 2 floors are non-res (i.e. predominant use type is
non-res) and 3 floors have area >20,000 sq.ft for both non-res and res then
what you've stated would be true.
Mike, could you also confirm my interpretation
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 1 Oct 2014 at 10:23
David and I discussed this on a call. We decided on the following steps for
defining the baseline system type-
1. First determine the predominant use type (residential vs non res vs mixed
use for each floor)
2. Taking an example of a building with a floor, predominant use type non-res,
NonResCondFlrArea = TotCondFlrArea – ResCondFlrArea (if greater than 20,000
sqft) – HtOnlyStorage (any area)
NonResCondFlrAreaFosFuelHt = TotCondFlrArea – NonResCondFlrAreaElectHt (if
greater than 20,000 sqft)
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 1 Oct 2014 at 11:22
I think you are correct. I had not considered that.
Original comment by bikerose...@gmail.com
on 2 Oct 2014 at 12:43
In David's example, the rules have determined that the building qualifies for
two system types. I think the issue is what systems would be used for the
corridors in the predominantly residential floors. I think they use
non-residential systems. Possible the main system, but more likely they qualify
for the additional packaged single zone exception due to differences in
schedules or loads.
Original comment by bikerose...@gmail.com
on 2 Oct 2014 at 1:11
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
da...@360-analytics.com
on 18 Sep 2014 at 5:32